Footage of the trailer has leaked- [SPOILER] thoughts?

[Lord Revan]

Does anyone else think the Wookie (in the scene with two Wookies) on the right looks like Chewbacca? He even has the exact same bandolier.

probaly because it's Chewie (it's no secret he's in EP3).

[The Dark]

Does anyone else think the Wookie (in the scene with two Wookies) on the right looks like Chewbacca? He even has the exact same bandolier.

probaly because it's Chewie (it's no secret he's in EP3).

Toldja I hadn't read anything about Ep. 3. But yeah, my roomie came in while I was watching the trailer again and couldn't believe I didn't know that Chewie was in it.

[Lord Revan]

I hadn't read anything about Ep. 3. But yeah, my roomie came in while I was watching the trailer again and couldn't believe I didn't know that Chewie was in it.

Well it wouldn't be right to have Wookiees, but not Chewie.

[Kurgan]

Chewie?! Crap.

I heard that Peter Mayhew was going to be in the movie, but that didn't mean he'd be reprising his role as a young Chewbacca. Oh well. *SP01l3d!!*

In the trailer it looks like the wookies are all CG. That would suck (IMO). SuperHoaxerShadow claims that the close-ups will be the familiar costume with far shots being CG (trailer doesn't support this notion). I've seen a clip of someone putting on a Wookiee suit, so who knows.



Btw, I know people don't give a crap, but in the trailer Vader's line "Yes my Master" sounds a bit like Liam Neeson (compare to James Earl Jones saying the same line in ESB).

[Vympel]

In the trailer it looks like the wookies are all CG. That would suck (IMO).

They're costumes.

[Kurgan]

In the trailer it looks like the wookies are all CG. That would suck (IMO).

They're costumes.

Weird. They've got that "rubbery" look to them which made me think they were CG (check that closeup of the two Wookiees especially).

Edit: I assumed, but it's not a given, that the suits being "used" for ROTS wookiees are similar to the ones used for Chewie in the OT.

[Illuminatus Primus]

So then why the hell are you complaining about it if its not a problem?

Untwist your panties. There's a difference between not prefering something because you figure you're going to have to explain it away later and thinking its an unavoidable problem at the heart of technical analysis.

Yet Ackbar exhibits unfamiliarity or lack of knowledge about it, which suggests otherwise.

[sigh] You're reciting to me the excuses we're going to use after ROTS comes out; the point is though that it would have been preferable and extrinsically speaking, more aligned with the OT if it was not Endor all over again.

I know we'll come up with excuses, and I too can guess what they might be. I would rather not come up with any, though, and I think it would've been smoother in the aforementioned preferences.

Oh bull. Having it appear in ROTS will not in any way invalidate the canoical indications from ROTJ that "point blank" confrontations are rare in the least. We're talkign about battles that are seperated by several decades, the overthrow of a government, , and the knowledge (or lack thereof) of particular individuals. Only a complete idiot would believe otherwise.

Come on; of course in terms of absolute possibility in realistic, completist technical analysis, it is workable.

However, it would have been preferable and I think more effective filmically to prove Ackbar's point by showing with contrast between what a "typical" all out conventional battle between galactic factions looks like with the irregularity of Endor.

Not really. Its been suggested that the shortt engagement ranges may be directly impacted by the possible use or existence of projectile weapons on the Trade Federation side (as a surprise tactic) - close-up engagements would not only also be a further surprise (if they are indeed rare), but the close-range would also make point-defense interception more problematic. And there is still the "boarding" issue.

I meant to suggest how they managed to close range so tightly without getting annhiliated or annhiliating the enemy on the approach.

Its rather difficult to imagine WW1 battleships, for example being able the charge dead-on into very low range LOS combat at will.

And once you really think about it, point blank confrontations are not neccesarily impractical, given judicious use of hyperdrives (such tactics have in fact been used before. Bakuran warships microjumped into the midst of an enemy fleet in "Showdown at Centerpoint", as an example.)

We have no idea what "in the midst of an enemy fleet" means, anyway. If the fleet formation is a hundred thousand kilometers across, then what? If each major ship is on average a few hundred kilometers away for the next? Its a rather subjective, superficial comparison.

This has been discussed already previously. Not everyone believes that the SPHA-T is neccesarily equivalent to a capital ship weapon. And more to the point, what reason is there to believe a turbolaser is NOT going to interact with the atmosphere like a laser or particle beam would?

Because it is not necessarily analogous to a relatively low-wavelength laser or beam of baryons. Grasers and x-ray lasers are extremely penetrative and would not interact with undense upper atmospheric densities much anyway. Perhaps these are more comparable to TLs.

And besides, the density at "59 miles of the 60 miles of atmosphere" is really just as insignificant and marginally fulfilling the description of "upper atmosphere" as any number of low orbit conflicts previously observed.

Uh right. I'm sure the Separatists and Republican ships will agree to cease hostilities just to tow wrecks out of the way.

The ships are already in orbit, and I doubt many of them are setting up retrofire. Most damaged ships will not simply fall from the sky, and even those experiencing atmospheric drag will not deorbit before the battle is concluded. Furthermore, a ship with damaged propulsion may still have repulsorlifts (they appear not very energy-intensive and rather robust) and also such a vessel may still have functioning weaponry and thousands of crew and troops which would be lost; even Confederate ships have a reason to keep their damaged siblings in orbit. And we do not even know if Coruscant has a shield or not. There's little reason to panic.

So then why did you ask a stupid question? Do I really need to repost the fact that you demanded to know how they accomplished such ranges to begin with?

I wanted to know how they'd plausibly get to those ranges without being shreaded by enemy fire on the approach.

Again, why are you asking stupid questions then if the issue has already been settled?

Really? How are they not being torn apart on the approach?

[VT-16]

I wanted to know how they'd plausibly get to those ranges without being shreaded by enemy fire on the approach.

Really? How are they not being torn apart on the approach?

Maybe they have been? We only begin enter the battle as it´s progressing, it´s possible both fleets have been decimated and the Republic is moving in for the kill.

[Crown]

Did anyone else notice the two prone 'red figures' at Yoda's feet in the trailer ... wonder who he's fighting?

[His Divine Shadow]

http://www.necrontyr.plus.com/forumpics/battle.jpg

Behold the 'teratonnage'![/size]

Is that sarcasm?

[VT-16]

Did anyone else notice the two prone 'red figures' at Yoda's feet in the trailer ... wonder who he's fighting?

Owning his guards before taking on Sidious himself, perhaps?

[Ted C]

What is with the explosion of one-handed lightsabre fighting styles this time around?

We see Anakin and Obi-Wan going after each other one-handed, Mace Windu facing off against somebody one-handed, Yoda drawing and posturing one-handed... the only person in the trailer with both hands on his weapon is Darth Sidious!

That's a pretty substantial change in fighting technique from all the previous films, in which almost anyone fighting with just one lightsabre had both hands on it unless he was just screwing around (e.g. Darth Vader vs Luke early in their ESB duel). The only exception was Count Dooku, who had a lightsabre that seemed to be custom-designed for a one-hand grip.

[VT-16]

What is with the explosion of one-handed lightsabre fighting styles this time around?

To be fair, most of the behind-the-scenes material seems to point towards the same two-handed combat. It´s just most of the scenes we´ve seen with Anakin and Obi-Wan involve them punching eachother or trying to grab each others lightsabre (probably towards the end, when they´re getting tired and stop caring about style).

Sidious´sabre is said in a doc to be too short to hold with both hands, lol.

And Yoda just grabs his sabre, it doesn´t show how he fights with it.

[Rogue 9]

Did anyone else notice the two prone 'red figures' at Yoda's feet in the trailer ... wonder who he's fighting?

Yeah, this came up a couple pages ago, and I took a screencap. Looks like Imperial Guards to me.

[BenRG]

This is way off-topic, fellas, but I just noticed something on Alyeska's zoomed-and-enhanced picture on the fourth page of this thread.

Look at where one of the Seperatist warship's laser blasts is moving towards the Star Destroyer's superstructure, and you will see that the hull/sheilds are already glowing red. I've strained my eyes as best as I can and this genuinely does seem to be directly along the line of the energy blast. Could this be canon proof of the long-standing theory that turbolaser blasts are mostly invisible and reach their targets well ahead of the visible "bolt"?

[Stark]

So, do you think they're actually be a reason for the closeness? Like in DWs fanfic, the suicidal counterattack to preserve VIPs? I know GL, and I bet there won't. A lot of handwaving, though

[NecronLord]

This is way off-topic, fellas, but I just noticed something on Alyeska's zoomed-and-enhanced picture on the fourth page of this thread.

Look at where one of the Seperatist warship's laser blasts is moving towards the Star Destroyer's superstructure, and you will see that the hull/sheilds are already glowing red. I've strained my eyes as best as I can and this genuinely does seem to be directly along the line of the energy blast. Could this be canon proof of the long-standing theory that turbolaser blasts are mostly invisible and reach their targets well ahead of the visible "bolt"?

It could just be rapid fire.

[The Original Nex]

This is way off-topic, fellas, but I just noticed something on Alyeska's zoomed-and-enhanced picture on the fourth page of this thread.

Look at where one of the Seperatist warship's laser blasts is moving towards the Star Destroyer's superstructure, and you will see that the hull/sheilds are already glowing red. I've strained my eyes as best as I can and this genuinely does seem to be directly along the line of the energy blast. Could this be canon proof of the long-standing theory that turbolaser blasts are mostly invisible and reach their targets well ahead of the visible "bolt"?

It could just be rapid fire.

Huh? It looks exactly like the effects/mistakes we've seen in the OT, with the destructive energy preceding the tracer. It looks nothing like the rapid fire we've seen in ESB, or AotC.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

So, do you think they're actually be a reason for the closeness? Like in DWs fanfic, the suicidal counterattack to preserve VIPs? I know GL, and I bet there won't. A lot of handwaving, though

Speculation is virtually useless at this stage and just based on a sole partial shot, but perhaps the Republic forces are attempting to prevent the Confederates from retreating into Hyperspace by going in close and engaging in broadsides at point-blank range.

I don't know, though. I say it's too early.

[Aquatain]

Maybe the closeness is due to some bordingaction to save Palpatine.