If the entire world could vote in the US Federal Election

moku · Post by **moku** » 2004-11-12 02:01am

I sincerely hope no one has posted this afore, as well as getting it in the right forum:

here -- betavote.com

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-11-12 02:04am

There are so many flaws with that survey, I can't even begin to point them out.

moku · Post by **moku** » 2004-11-12 02:12am

StormtrooperOfDeath wrote:There are so many flaws with that survey, I can't even begin to point them out.

I was somewhat surprised at the amount of Kerry voting countries. I think you could most certainly be right...

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-11-12 02:23am

It's a massive case of voter response bias.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-11-12 02:26am

I'll tell you what makes me instantly doubt it. The Vatican went to Kerry? Erm...

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-11-12 02:27am

Oh, and the other thing:

United States John Kerry by 51% 17507 53899 24 % 75 %

I'm sorry, but the real election kind of shows this to be wildly wrong.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2004-11-12 02:28am

Rogue 9 wrote:I'll tell you what makes me instantly doubt it. The Vatican went to Kerry? Erm...

Don't forget the deadlocked Iraqi vote.

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2004-11-12 02:47am

Other surveys done put Bush would have won both Afghanistan and Iraq.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-11-12 02:49am

Rogue 9 wrote:The Vatican went to Kerry? Erm...

He's Catholic. What's the beef?

Post by **Edi** » 2004-11-12 02:50am

Did you people look at the vote tallies? There's your response.

However, if the whole world could have voted, Kerry would have won. In Europe alone, only Poland would have voted for him, and in all but two others Kerry's victory would have been by double digit figures, often large double digit figures. There was an actual internationally respectable study about this a while back.

I don't know about the rest of the world, but I suspect Bush is very popular there either.

Edi

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-11-12 02:54am

Stofsk wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:The Vatican went to Kerry? Erm...
He's Catholic. What's the beef?

The beef is his political ideology. I work at a monastery. Some of the more conservative fathers were rumbling of excommunication, but no one ever listens to them on things like that. However, nobody but nobody living in that abbey was voting Kerry, not with his position on abortion. That reigns supreme with the Catholic vote, outweighing nearly everything else.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-11-12 05:44am

So...how many electoral votes does England get, compared to Russia? Does Sealand get 3?

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2004-11-12 05:49am

HemlockGrey wrote:So...how many electoral votes does England get, compared to Russia? Does Sealand get 3?

Damnit that's a good point! Where is Sealand on that list!

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-11-12 07:25am

sure, we'll let you vote in our election - if we can run your territories with the elected prez

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-11-12 11:48am

Does the term "selection bias" have any meaning to you?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-11-12 01:34pm

Rogue 9 wrote:
Stofsk wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:The Vatican went to Kerry? Erm...
He's Catholic. What's the beef?
The beef is his political ideology. I work at a monastery. Some of the more conservative fathers were rumbling of excommunication, but no one ever listens to them on things like that. However, nobody but nobody living in that abbey was voting Kerry, not with his position on abortion. That reigns supreme with the Catholic vote, outweighing nearly everything else.

Take care not to speak for the entire RCC. I know all of the parishes in my area were heavily Kerry because of the war.

CJvR · Post by **CJvR** » 2004-11-12 01:55pm

The PRC could march a billion voters at gunpoint into the polling stations and elect a Communist.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-11-12 01:59pm

The PRC could march a billion voters at gunpoint into the polling stations and elect a Communist.

And be countered by the fact there are still 5 billion voters, who would not vote communist for the most part. Seriously the threat of that happening would cause most of us to scrounge up a compromise canidate that we could all agree on.

CJvR · Post by **CJvR** » 2004-11-12 02:16pm

frigidmagi wrote:And be countered by the fact there are still 5 billion voters, who would not vote communist for the most part. Seriously the threat of that happening would cause most of us to scrounge up a compromise canidate that we could all agree on.

Most of us?

India? Africa? The Arabs? World democracy is quite pointless untill the world is democratic and reasonable evenly developed IMO.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-11-12 02:18pm

India? Africa? The Arabs? World democracy is quite pointless untill the world is democratic and reasonable evenly developed IMO.

The Arabs would vote... For an Arab. India would run with us rather than have a Communist Chinese in charge.

Kidding aside you're right, no one is really taking it seriously.

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2004-11-12 02:26pm

I'd be willing to let them vote for our President, and even influence the election, if in exchange he gets a throne in the UN and a permanent veto in each committee.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2004-11-12 03:32pm

All hail the United States of Earth!

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-11-12 03:53pm

I don't think this is accurate when you have the United States voting for Kerry by 75%.