SBollinger: call to arms

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-06 08:46pm

OK, is anyone willing to collect examples of SBollinger's arguments on creationism, homosexuals, and religious tolerance (presuming that he actually has some, over and above his debating "tactic" of simply deleting everything he doesn't like)?

If he won't debate on a level playing field (and it's quite obvious that he won't, with his ridiculous stipulations that he and his buddies have complete control over content and unilateral right to judge), then we should simply deconstruct him here. Find everything he's ever written and tear it to shreds.

Post any dumb-ass SBollinger remarks and arguments in this thread, and we can have a party.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-11-06 09:03pm

http://www.creationweb.org/viewtopic.php?t=285 wrote: Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:42 pm Post subject: Russ Humphreys refutes atheist Joe Meert

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and his false claims about helium diffusion.

Full story here. http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/1030meert.asp

http://www.creationweb.org/viewtopic.php?t=285 wrote:Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 10:37 pm Post subject:

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amatheuscraigen wrote:
First, homosexuality and heterosexuality are not hereditary. I popped out of a completely straight family.

I think the issue is "genetics" not "heredity".

http://www.creationweb.org/viewtopic.php?p=2845&highlight=#2845 wrote:Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 5:35 pm Post subject:

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Quote:
If you don't beleive in any objective reality, then try this experiment.

1) Take a gun.
2) Shoot yourself with it.

That experiment is and is/has been testable/tested. Thus, it requires no faith.

Experiment:
1) Get on your knees.
2)Pray sincerely for faith to believe and to show you He exists.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-06 09:05pm

Good start, although it would be best to copy and paste the text rather than linking to it and providing snippets, since remote links to that site may be unreliable (or useless, for those who have been IP-banned).

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2002-11-06 09:06pm

*Poof Useless Content Deleted and Replace with Useful Content

PUPPY

-Bean

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-11-06 09:06pm

Darth Wong wrote:Good start, although it would be best to copy and paste the text rather than linking to it and providing snippets, since remote links to that site may be unreliable (or useless, for those who have been IP-banned).

Well, those are his posts...

Sorry. I'm one of the few people who can still access the board. Should think of the others...

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-11-06 09:15pm

http://www.creationweb.org/viewtopic.php?t=259 wrote: Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 10:13 pm Post subject:

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The Apologist wrote:
Was weemadando banned?

Nope. Just de-activated for a bit. However, if he follows through on any of the threats he made at sd.net, he soon will be.
He's activated again.

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A bit further down that page comes one of my posts (well it was until SB got his claws into it)

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 11:11 pm Post subject:

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post deleted.
Way ot.
SB

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Self proclaimed leader of the Anti-Troll Jihad

Outright lie. I was temporarily IP Banned. My browser and their site told me as much when I tried to log in. I couldn't even view as a guest.

That second post was me saying I had been banned. If its OK for him to say I wasn't, then why couldn't I make the point that I actually had been? Oh, sorry, thats right. He's a fucking post-nazi.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2002-11-06 09:24pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:*Poof Useless Content Deleted and Replace with Useful Content

PUPPY

-Bean

ROFL!!! I still want Bollinger to see this thread...
P.S. AWWW DATSHA CUTE WIDDLE PUPPY!

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2002-11-06 10:54pm

"You will notice that He is speaking of the Priests? They had a greater burden to bear being teachers. In fact, the whole chapter is speaking to the Priests of Israel.
So what's the problem?
Think this puts the Bible in a bad light? Not even."
That`s the only contact I`ve had with Bollinger. It`s a comment on my sig over there...Malachi 2:3 "Behold, for I shall corrupt your seed and spread dung on your faces" I think it was stp that banned me. Ever since, He`s started several "Homosexuality is poo-poo nasty" threads. They ban us THEN start posting provocative threads that we can`t reply to.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2002-11-06 11:13pm

thoth wrote:
Ge11:19.... Do you mean that speeks only of language variation....
And Ge10:25......Ge11:9..........speek of scattering them accross the earth
speeks nothing about changing them visually .......unless you can improve on this then i think you have infered more from the readings than may possibly have been ment originally...................

thoth wrote:
This does not account for the differences we mentioned.

Also every thing evolves ........The universe ,your family ,your country,my family and country...............every thing evolves it is just the way of things ....................we evolved the squat white bodies of the eskimos and we evolved the tall thin of the savana negros.......for the fun of it no in response to the land we lived on .....its just the way it is .......and no amount of foot stamping is going to change it ........

SBollinger wrote:
You hit on it yourself except it's adaptation. When the people were scattered, why did those who went into northern climes become white and those in , say Africa, become black? Hint: It has to do with Vitamin D and melonin.

thoth wrote:
Yes this is known as the mechanism of evolution.........
not the tower of babal as i said before.............

Does this mean we can argue that SBollinger is in favor of evolution?

Kosh_The_Vorlon · Post by **Kosh_The_Vorlon** » 2002-11-06 11:14pm

Guys, just so you know, I registered over there and haven't posted yet, so if you need any "covert info", so to speak, feel free to ask me.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-06 11:15pm

Quote that shit here so we can make fun of it.

Kosh_The_Vorlon · Post by **Kosh_The_Vorlon** » 2002-11-06 11:16pm

Darth Wong wrote:Quote that shit here so we can make fun of it.

::browses CreationWeb::

::brain explodes::

Augh!! Which stuff?? There's so much to choose from!

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2002-11-06 11:20pm

I'm fully registered over there too, and I don't think they know who I am (could be wrong, but my name's surviving), so I'll look for some things that are legitimately unethical.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-07 02:49pm

I'm IP banned on this particular computer...but I know that he as well as others ask us to defend ourselves after we've been banned -- and they know it.

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2002-11-07 05:15pm

Odd, I'm still active there. I've all but outright called Jehovah the Devil and religion a baseless gamble on one's destiny. Maybe I'm just quiet.

EDIT: Except they tried to change my signature, simply for coming from this site. What a bunch of hissyfit, hypocritical kids. If they were using logic to come to their conclusion, I'd simply assume I did something to make them feel that way and let it go. But nope, I have every right to flip them off and say "You don't even aknowledge Modus Ponens, you mindless sheep!"

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-11-07 05:27pm

Posted: Thu Nov 2002 Post subject:

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THE DEBATE

1: DEBATE WILL TAKE PLACE VIA E-MAIL
2: DEBATE WILL BEGIN AS OF 0900 (9:00AM) SATURDAY MORNING, US EASTERN STANDARD TIME (GMT +7hrs.)
3: DEBATE WILL BE POSTED PUBLICLY AND UNALTERED AT BOTH STARDESTROYER.NET AND CREATIONWEB.ORG.

For StarDestroyer.net, we present:

2 Gladiators: WeeMadAndo and Durandal

5 Judges: Neoolong, Vympel, NecronLord, Coyote, Yogi

Judging criteria: 1-10 scale based on:

Effective use of Evidence
Clarity of Communication
Staying on Topic/Relevancy
Convincing
Civility

Anyone can coach or supply additional research as needed, but outside sources (books, articles, etc) must be accredited. No proof from "some guy's cousin I met at a party".

(if there are no objections, I will post this within the next four hours)

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2002-11-07 05:39pm

Could've sworn I posted more since the 4th.

Wait, I did! That spineless bastard Bollinger got mad when I said "I wonder how long it will take Bollinger to delete this thread and hope nobody remembers it."

Bollinger, you gutless little bastard!! If you weren't such an irrational, insult-parroting little facist lunatic, twenty people coming over to argue wouldn't be an invasion! Stop declaring All Who Oppose you 'trolls' and get your hand off the 'delete' button!!

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-11-07 05:55pm

Posted: Thu Nov 2002 Post subject:

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A CORRECTION--

If WeeMadAndo is willing, Verilon will take the fight via e-mail, since Verilon cannot post over there and WeeMadAndo can. Durandal and Verilon will be able to carry out debate without worry of Bollinger's jackboots, while those of us who still have access to CreationWeb (myself, Yogi, NecronLord, WeeMadAndo and others) will maintain our ongoing campaigns in the open.

Onward to victory, destroy Fundie Force!
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--'Yotie

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2002-11-07 06:49pm

Will any of this be going on the SD.net hate mail page?

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-11-07 07:44pm

Darth Servo wrote:Will any of this be going on the SD.net hate mail page?

That is up to Lord Wong; I'm sure at some point there will be a statement made that will deserve to be held up as a good example of a bad example. In truth, much of this campaign has so far been preserved for posterity (and to cover posteriors) at the "CreationWeb archive" started by WeeMadAndo. But as time goes by, SBollinger is moving at near-hyperspace velocities into a special category of his own...