My parents say arabs will never form democratic states.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2004-11-13 08:23pm

frigidmagi wrote:
And where does he say that he lives in an abusive environment? read it again and find where he says that he is going to get smacked around
And the point sails over your head. Get it straight no one is suggesting he lives in an abusive enviroment or that his father regularly beats him or something. They're suggesting that comparing his father to Hitler is a risksy idea likey to prompt a emotional and phyiscal response. Hence the smack.

So now you are a mind reader? you know the likely responce of a person you dont know to a given stimuli? fuck off.

Predator · Post by **Predator** » 2004-11-13 08:29pm

If there's any risk he's going to get smacked, it's an abusive environment, and one he should get out of or alert relevant authorities to.

Otherwise, I think he needs some perspective - give him the hitler comparison.

Lusankya · Post by **Lusankya** » 2004-11-14 12:58am

nitpick, Turkey isn't a Arabic country.

yes it is.

Over 99% of the population is Muslim, it is in the middle east and shares borders with iran, syria and iraq. Just because the government says that it is officially a secular state does not mean that it is not arabic.

GeneralTacticus · Post by **GeneralTacticus** » 2004-11-14 01:02am

There is a difference between being Arab and being Muslim. Indonesia and Pakistan are both predominantly Muslim, yet neither are Arab nations. Lebanon is an Arab nation, yet it still has a lot of Christians. And so on.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-11-14 01:17am

Indeed, neither Turkey nor Iran are Arabic countries.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-11-14 02:16am

Arguing with your father is pointless. He will never take your arguments that seriously because he saw you in diapers. That's the reality.

Lusankya · Post by **Lusankya** » 2004-11-14 05:33am

They have enough culture in common to be considered common, just like AUstralia has enough culture in common with Europe to be considered an offshoot of Europe, rather than an offshoot of Asia.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-11-14 09:10am

The prime enthic group in Turkey are the Turks, who are a seperate group from the Arabs. The Turks came down from Central Asia, the Arabs from Arabia, completly different orgins. Turkey is not an Arab nation in any sense of the word.

Lusankya · Post by **Lusankya** » 2004-11-15 12:58am

The prime enthic group in Turkey are the Turks, who are a seperate group from the Arabs. The Turks came down from Central Asia, the Arabs from Arabia, completly different orgins. Turkey is not an Arab nation in any sense of the word.

ok.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2004-11-21 03:38pm

Lusankya wrote:
nitpick, Turkey isn't a Arabic country.
yes it is.

Over 99% of the population is Muslim, it is in the middle east and shares borders with iran, syria and iraq. Just because the government says that it is officially a secular state does not mean that it is not arabic.

Ah... no, Turks aren't Arabic... they were tribes that originally came from central asia. They don't even speak Arabic. Just because it is in the middle east and is a Muslim country doesn't mean that it's a Arabic country.

t is in the middle east and shares borders with iran, syria and iraq.

Iran isn't a Arabic country neither... they're Persian.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2004-11-21 03:39pm

Whoops, guess I should have read the posts further down before replying. No edit button neither. Sorry for necromancing.