BANNED!

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-11-06 11:46pm

IP Banned even.

So, why not roll the credits:

A big hearty fuck you to:

SBollinger
Creationistalltheway
TheApologist

and all the other fucking belief-nazi's over at CW.org

They have proved that legitimate debate is impossible and as such have supported our arguement that they are closed-minded bigoted sons of whores.

Thankyou and goodnight from WeeMadAndo, Leader of the ATJ.

PS. Any CW.org people reading this and thinking: "what a sore loser", just consider for a moment, what did I actually lose? I never had to concede a point, I was never rude to the admins or mods. Indeed I can't think of a single bannable offense other than openly disagreeing with the beliefs of that fucking nazi Bollinger in what are allegedly their "Free-For-All" forums.

With great sadness I bid you all adieu and hope to whatever fucking god you don't believe in that you all slowly roast in whatever miserable hell all the other deities have prepared for you heathen dogs.

Non Catenatum · Post by **Non Catenatum** » 2002-11-07 12:08am

Second place? Come on, I thought I'd score better then that!

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-11-07 12:28am

Umm...right.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-07 12:29am

Great a person that think its a good thing to be a bigot and belief-nazi.

What next, village idiots that like being an idiot, oh wait we had those too.

Kosh_The_Vorlon · Post by **Kosh_The_Vorlon** » 2002-11-07 12:30am

creationistalltheay wrote:Second place? Come on, I thought I'd score better then that!

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Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2002-11-07 12:33am

Just found out that spam=Specially Pressed American Meat. Thank you PBS and 1940's House.

Oh, and, thanks for lurking assholes from CW!

Non Catenatum · Post by **Non Catenatum** » 2002-11-07 12:35am

Great a person that think its a good thing to be a bigot and belief-nazi. What next, village idiots that like being an idiot, oh wait we had those too.

I never said I was biggoted. I"m not even a mod there, so even if the banning was biggoted it wouldn't change anything about me. I lbelieve homosexuality is wrong. I do not, however, think of them as lower individuals then myself. The same goes for people who differ with my beliefs. Biggoted would be me hating or strongly disliking someone for another belief. I do not. I have many atheistic friends, and have met homosexuals before whom I don't dislike.

You claim you are fighting against biggotry, yet you steriotype "fundies" often. Because I'm a member of the board, I'm a biggot. Because I'm a christian, I'm "fundie trash". Who's the biggot in this picture?

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2002-11-07 12:41am

creationistalltheay wrote:
I have many atheistic friends, and have met homosexuals before whom I don't dislike.

WOW!

Did ya strain yourself there, big guy?

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-11-07 12:41am

creationistalltheay wrote:
Great a person that think its a good thing to be a bigot and belief-nazi. What next, village idiots that like being an idiot, oh wait we had those too.
I never said I was biggoted. I"m not even a mod there, so even if the banning was biggoted it wouldn't change anything about me. I lbelieve homosexuality is wrong. I do not, however, think of them as lower individuals then myself. The same goes for people who differ with my beliefs. Biggoted would be me hating or strongly disliking someone for another belief. I do not. I have many atheistic friends, and have met homosexuals before whom I don't dislike.

You claim you are fighting against biggotry, yet you steriotype "fundies" often. Because I'm a member of the board, I'm a biggot. Because I'm a christian, I'm "fundie trash". Who's the biggot in this picture?

Actually in your correspondance since I posted this you have been very civil and hell, even sarcastic and amusing...

SBollinger however can continue to be mocked.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-07 12:42am

creationistalltheay wrote:You claim you are fighting against biggotry, yet you steriotype "fundies" often. Because I'm a member of the board, I'm a biggot. Because I'm a christian, I'm "fundie trash". Who's the biggot in this picture?

Oh, cry me a river. Every fundie out there appropriates the language of tolerance for the childish "you too!" attack.

Well, it doesn't fly. You are a bigot because you consider it immoral to be homosexual. You pretend that this doesn't make you a bigot because you don't consider them "lower" than you, but that's nothing but a feeble dodge and you know it. You don't consider unrepentantly "immoral" people to be "lower" than you? Yeah, right. You worship a God who promises to torture all non-Christians forever. You even PRAISE him. That makes you a bigot. Maybe not as bad as that worthless little Bollinger ass-wipe, but still a bigot nonetheless.

You complain that we "stereotype" fundies; it is not a stereotype to point out the horrifying immorality of the Bible, and then to draw the logical conclusion that anyone who praises its mass-murdering genocidal God must be a bigot. Would it be a "stereotype" to say that all Neo-Nazis are bad people for praising Hitler? You're just trying to deflect criticism away from where it squarely belongs: your beliefs.

Non Catenatum · Post by **Non Catenatum** » 2002-11-07 12:46am

Well, it doesn't fly. You are a bigot because you consider it immoral to be homosexual. You pretend that this doesn't make you a bigot because you don't consider them "lower" than you, but that's nothing but a feeble dodge and you know it. You don't consider unrepentantly "immoral" people to be "lower" than you? Yeah, right. You worship a God who promises to torture all non-Christians forever. You even PRAISE him. That makes you a bigot. Maybe not as bad as that worthless little Bollinger ass-wipe, but still a bigot nonetheless.

You, then, are a "bigot" towards all murderers, theives, rapists, pediophiles, and bigots for that matter.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-07 12:46am

creationistalltheay wrote:
Great a person that think its a good thing to be a bigot and belief-nazi. What next, village idiots that like being an idiot, oh wait we had those too.
I never said I was biggoted. I"m not even a mod there, so even if the banning was biggoted it wouldn't change anything about me. I lbelieve homosexuality is wrong. I do not, however, think of them as lower individuals then myself. The same goes for people who differ with my beliefs. Biggoted would be me hating or strongly disliking someone for another belief. I do not. I have many atheistic friends, and have met homosexuals before whom I don't dislike.

You claim you are fighting against biggotry, yet you steriotype "fundies" often. Because I'm a member of the board, I'm a biggot. Because I'm a christian, I'm "fundie trash". Who's the biggot in this picture?

The list of 3 is about the belief nazis on the board. You didn't deny it and in fact claimed you were superior to SBollinger in his ways. As he is a bigot, you in effect desire to be moreso of one. So my observation stands. You are a bigot who in fact desires to be more of one. What, you want to talk about race now?

Besides, you think that homosexuals are wrong in their beliefs. Besides being irrational that is a dislike. It is also bigotted. You're a bigot because you type bigotted things, not because you are a fundie moron. And if you had actually been paying attention we have Christians on this board that we don't flame. It's because they are actually intelligent. Take off your blinders dumbass.

Oh yeah, I just quoted you, by your logic does that makes me you. Right?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-07 12:49am

creationistalltheay wrote:You, then, are a "bigot" towards all murderers, theives, rapists, pediophiles, and bigots for that matter.

No, because I can explain exactly why their actions are immoral. You cannot do the same for homosexuals, except to appeal to the ridiculous divine authority of your mass-murdering God. I proudly feel contempt for murderers etc, and I make no attempt to hide it. You, on the other hand, recognize on some subliminal level that it's wrong to be contemptuous of gays, yet you deride them as immoral and praise a God who wants them all to suffer. Make up your mind.

Non Catenatum · Post by **Non Catenatum** » 2002-11-07 12:50am

The list of 3 is about the belief nazis on the board. You didn't deny it and in fact claimed you were superior to SBollinger in his ways. As he is a bigot, you in effect desire to be moreso of one. So my observation stands. You are a bigot who in fact desires to be more of one. What, you want to talk about race now?

The list of three was the "rolling credits". Afterwards he said "and all other belief nazis".

Was just kidding, by the way

Oh yeah, I just quoted you, by your logic does that makes me you. Right

Just good ol' paranoid me doing my job.

Non Catenatum · Post by **Non Catenatum** » 2002-11-07 12:53am

No, because I can explain exactly why their actions are immoral. You cannot do the same for homosexuals, except to appeal to the ridiculous divine authority of your mass-murdering God. I proudly feel contempt for such people, and I make no attempt to hide it

Then the only difference is I base my priorities on God and you on your own moralities.

You, on the other hand, recognize on some subliminal level that it's wrong to be contemptuous of gays, yet you deride them as immoral and praise a God who wants them all to suffer. Make up your mind.

I recognize that it is wrong for us to hate gays and to act indignantly above them. I do think that their lifestyle is immoral. It is not a contradiction.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-07 12:53am

creationistalltheay wrote:
The list of 3 is about the belief nazis on the board. You didn't deny it and in fact claimed you were superior to SBollinger in his ways. As he is a bigot, you in effect desire to be moreso of one. So my observation stands. You are a bigot who in fact desires to be more of one. What, you want to talk about race now?
The list of three was the "rolling credits". Afterwards he said "and all other belief nazis".

Was just kidding, by the way

Oh yeah, I just quoted you, by your logic does that makes me you. Right
Just good ol' paranoid me doing my job.

Right, yet your actions speak otherwise. Because of course homosexuals are wrong and immoral just because you say so. That would make you a bigot.

You wanna be a moron that praises an egomaniacal sociopathic invisible man fine. Just don't expect to be liked for being a bigot and a moron.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-07 12:56am

creationistalltheay wrote:
No, because I can explain exactly why their actions are immoral. You cannot do the same for homosexuals, except to appeal to the ridiculous divine authority of your mass-murdering God. I proudly feel contempt for such people, and I make no attempt to hide it
Then the only difference is I base my priorities on God and you on your own moralities.

You defend your hatred of gays with subjective beliefs. I defend my hatred of murderers by pointing out that they hurt people, ie- objective facts. In other words, I have provided a tangible reason to hate murderers. You cannot provide a tangible reason to hate gays (or to worship a God who hates gays) apart from your own personal beliefs, which means that you are a bigot, ie- your contempt for them comes from within you, and has no objective basis.

I recognize that it is wrong for us to hate gays and to act indignantly above them. I do think that their lifestyle is immoral. It is not a contradiction.

Yes it is, because you praise a brutal, cruel God who promises to torture them for eternity. You are trying to have your cake and eat it too: appropriate the language of tolerance while simultaneously worshipping a God of intolerance.

Non Catenatum · Post by **Non Catenatum** » 2002-11-07 12:56am

because of course homosexuals are wrong and immoral just because you say so.

Correction, homosexuals are wrong and immoral mainly because God says so.

I realize you do not recognize God as an Authority. That does not, however, change my stance. Whether or not you believe God is sovereign or an imaginary man, I do not base my beliefs against homosexuality on my own ideas thus I am not a bigot.[/quote]

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-07 12:57am

creationistalltheay wrote:
No, because I can explain exactly why their actions are immoral. You cannot do the same for homosexuals, except to appeal to the ridiculous divine authority of your mass-murdering God. I proudly feel contempt for such people, and I make no attempt to hide it
Then the only difference is I base my priorities on God and you on your own moralities.

Wow, a priority in a sociopathic egomaniacal invisible man. That's real convincing. But wait, we base our priority on something called morality. Thanks for agreeing that you base your life not on morality but on the bigotry and hatred that your "deity" spews.

You, on the other hand, recognize on some subliminal level that it's wrong to be contemptuous of gays, yet you deride them as immoral and praise a God who wants them all to suffer. Make up your mind.
I recognize that it is wrong for us to hate gays and to act indignantly above them. I do think that their lifestyle is immoral. It is not a contradiction.

So you're a liar too. I thought you said that they weren't beneath you. And you think that their lifestyle is immoral how? Oh wait, because you're a bigot. Do you have any races that you think are living an immoral lifestyle too?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-07 12:58am

creationistalltheay wrote:I realize you do not recognize God as an Authority. That does not, however, change my stance. Whether or not you believe God is sovereign or an imaginary man, I do not base my beliefs against homosexuality on my own ideas thus I am not a bigot.

Wrong. They ARE your own ideas. You may not have INVENTED them, but you CHOOSE to believe in something which has no objective basis, ie- exists for you only because you believe in it. In other words, your basis of contempt for homosexuality is your personal beliefs, not something objective.

Non Catenatum · Post by **Non Catenatum** » 2002-11-07 12:58am

You defend your hatred of gays with subjective beliefs. I defend my hatred of murderers by pointing out that they hurt people, ie- objective facts. In other words, I have provided a tangible reason to hate murderers. You cannot provide a tangible reason to hate gays (or to worship a God who hates gays) apart from your own personal beliefs, which means that you are a bigot, ie- your contempt for them comes from within you, and has no objective basis.

I said on my second post in this thread that I do not hate gays.

Wow, a priority in a sociopathic egomaniacal invisible man. That's real convincing. But wait, we base our priority on something called morality. Thanks for agreeing that you base your life not on morality but on the bigotry and hatred that your "deity" spews.

I said based on your own moralities, not morality in general.

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neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-07 12:59am

creationistalltheay wrote:
because of course homosexuals are wrong and immoral just because you say so.
Correction, homosexuals are wrong and immoral mainly because God says so.

I realize you do not recognize God as an Authority. That does not, however, change my stance. Whether or not you believe God is sovereign or an imaginary man, I do not base my beliefs against homosexuality on my own ideas thus I am not a bigot.

The invisible man is the manifestation of your beliefs. As such, you saying God says homosexuals are wrong is merely you justifying your own hatred. You do use your own beliefs, or you admit you follow blindly even when you are wrong. Take off your blinders bigot.

Non Catenatum · Post by **Non Catenatum** » 2002-11-07 01:00am

No, because I can explain exactly why their actions are immoral

Alright, why are their actions immoral.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-07 01:00am

creationistalltheay wrote:I said on my second post in this thread that I do not hate gays.

And some of the WCOTC racists came here and said they don't hate blacks either

. You refuse to acknowledge the word "hate" as it applies to you, but you praise a God who hates them and promises to torture them for all eternity. This is no different from praising Hitler while claiming that you don't hate Jews.

Non Catenatum · Post by **Non Catenatum** » 2002-11-07 01:01am

As such, you saying God says homosexuals are wrong is merely you justifying your own hatred. You do use your own beliefs, or you admit you follow blindly even when you are wrong. Take off your blinders bigot.

In the same way, you use your own beliefs that God does not exist, and based off what you don't know you say it is wrong for me to say homosexuality is wrong. That makes you, inn your own definition, a bigot, as you cannot objectively disprove the existance of God.