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Winston Blake wrote:As a newbie, i'm finding it somehow gratifying to finally debate Darkstar. I'd heard a lot about him, and now it's almost a Rite of Passage for me to debate him.

It's a bit like having a fistfight with Satan, really. There's a few weirdos out there who worship him, he is constantly used as an example of ultimate evil (stupidity), and his story shocks and frightens noobs (children).
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GeneralTacticus wrote:Am I reading that wrong, or did Tulkas just say that planets naturally undergo internal fusion and eventually explode?

+http://www.strek-v-swars.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34
The planet WAS completely destroyed; again, the means is irrelevant, if it can be done reliably. You're just splitting hairs-- particularly considering that the DS most likely blows up planets by simply stimulating the natural process by which planets explode when their internal fusion-processes reach critical-mass, so it's the same thing, i.e. causing the nuclei to simultaneously fuse.
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Ah, Darkstar followers. Proving yet again that only ignoramuses will ever find his arguments compelling.
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WTF ...
Tulkas wrote:Planets blow THEMSELVES up on occasion via spontaneous fusion
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Try getting your facts straight before you accuse others of not having theirs. It's common knowledge in contemporary astrophysics, that planets can spontaneously explode (ala Ceti Alpha VI in STII)
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Just found where he got his bullshit from:

http://www.metaresearch.org/solar%20sys ... ph2000.asp

Notice all the fringe discussion when it gets to "mechanism"- not widely recognized, and a main page that asserts there's "something wrong" with astronomy.
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God. It's Stewart of SDI version 2.0. He honestly believes that planets spontaneously explode from time to time.
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Damn you Vymp! I was planning to post that, damn near made me fall out of my chair laughing. :P
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That's one of the most satisfying smack-downs I've ever administered :)
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I have provided a pair of GIF animations of the Hoth asteroid destruct sequence to the thread on the subject. Enjoy.
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Darth Wong wrote:Ah, Darkstar followers. Proving yet again that only ignoramuses will ever find his arguments compelling.
Darkstar....Seduced by the trek side was he. Mainly because of stupidity but there is one grat thing that one must consider..who was mighter DS or Timmy? and will the Master return? always two there are..a Master and an apprentice.
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BTW, can someone with the ROTJ novelisation quickly check if Leia's arm getting hurt near the bunker is described, and post the relevant quote?
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Winston Blake wrote:BTW, can someone with the ROTJ novelisation quickly check if Leia's arm getting hurt near the bunker is described, and post the relevant quote?
Sure
RotJ wrote:....Great, now we have two doors to get through' Leia muttered.
At that moment she was hit in the arm by a laser bolt, and knocked to the ground.
Han rushed over to her. 'Leia, no!' he cried, trying to stop the bleeding.....
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Yes, and it doesn't exactly support your case:
At that moment, she was hit in the arm by a laser bolt, and knocked to the ground.
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Oops, didn't see Stuart's post.
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GeneralTacticus wrote:Oops, didn't see Stuart's post.
And I forgot the page number :oops: I need to go to bed, forgetting basics...
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Master of Ossus wrote:
GeneralTacticus wrote:Am I reading that wrong, or did Tulkas just say that planets naturally undergo internal fusion and eventually explode?

+http://www.strek-v-swars.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34
The planet WAS completely destroyed; again, the means is irrelevant, if it can be done reliably. You're just splitting hairs-- particularly considering that the DS most likely blows up planets by simply stimulating the natural process by which planets explode when their internal fusion-processes reach critical-mass, so it's the same thing, i.e. causing the nuclei to simultaneously fuse.
Unsurprising. Tulkas quickly earned a reputation for himself on the Yahoo! Groups ( :roll: )webpage for being a doofus. You're lucky Bargara hasn't showed up, yet.
Oh my god, I hope that Bargara doesnt find his way there because at that point I think that the stupidity of the morons at that forum will reach a critical mass, resulting in an explosion that will make the entire damn server blow up (though, that would wipe some of them out...)
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Wait, there's somebody out there who's dumber than a guy who thinks that there's nuclear fusion naturally occurring inside Earth's iron core?
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at least St-v-Sw.net looks pretty :roll:
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Darth Wong wrote:Wait, there's somebody out there who's dumber than a guy who thinks that there's nuclear fusion naturally occurring inside Earth's iron core?
Read the quote in my signature.
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Vympel wrote:WTF ...
Tulkas wrote:Planets blow THEMSELVES up on occasion via spontaneous fusion
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Try getting your facts straight before you accuse others of not having theirs. It's common knowledge in contemporary astrophysics, that planets can spontaneously explode (ala Ceti Alpha VI in STII)
I think he watches too much ST2...and believes it's fact.
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The quote doesn't give enough info, whether the bolt directly hit her arm, scraped it, exploded alongside it, etc. It just says that the bolt 'hit'
her arm, which could account for scraping as well.
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Well, this could be a new chapter in the history of the sw v ST community.....
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Or at least a rich source of quotes to point and laugh at.
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Looks like I win :twisted:, I'm the first to have a complete thread.

Not that it was hard to say that no material doors, banana phasers and exploding consoles are stupid anyway. I'll leave the quantatitive analysis to the more accomplished, and stick to the qualitative for now.

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