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Canada: "Marry an American"

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SEATTLE, Washington (AP) -- Rudi Kischer wants to help those Americans who have the post-election blues after U.S. President George W. Bush's second-term victory.

The Vancouver, British Columbia, immigration lawyer plans seminars in three U.S. cities -- Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles -- to tell Americans frustrated with Bush's re-election that the grass is greener north of the border.

And that's not just an allusion to Canada's lenient marijuana laws.

"We started last year getting a lot of calls from Americans dissatisfied with the way the country is going," Kischer says. "Then after the election, it's been crazy up here. The Canadian immigration Web site had 115,000 hits the day after the election -- from the U.S. alone. We usually only get 20,000 hits."

There was so much interest that a Vancouver-based Internet company, Communicopia, set up a new Web site this month -- www.canadianalternative.com -- to suggest Canada as a viable option for its American clients, including anyone concerned about constitutional bans on gay marriage passed in 11 U.S. states this month.

"We invite you to get to know Canada," the site says. "Explore the richness and diversity of our regions. And find out why Canada is the perfect alternative for conscientious, forward-thinking Americans."

Another Web site urges Canadians: "Open your heart, and your home. Marry an American. Legions of Canadians have already pledged to sacrifice their singlehood to save our southern neighbours from four more years of cowboy conservatism."

Canada suddenly has utopian appeal for many left-leaning Americans. Its universal health care, gay rights, abortion rights, gun-control laws, drug laws, opposition to the Iraq war, ban on capital punishment and ethnic diversity mirror many values of the American left.

Immigrants, including an estimated 1 million Americans, make up nearly 20 percent of Canada's population. The United Nations named Toronto the world's most multicultural city.

And, as Michael Moore pointed out in "Bowling for Columbine" -- required viewing for many lefties -- in Canada there's apparently no reason to lock your door.

On the other hand, it's cold. The baseball's not very good -- so long, Expos. And the taxes are higher, eh?

But, as one American who has his bags nearly packed likes to say, at least the taxes go toward good causes.

"I just like their way of life a lot better, and with everything the Bush administration has done -- for the American people to give him their seal of approval, it's basically the last straw," says Ralph Appoldt, a resident of Portland, in Oregon, a state that narrowly supported Democrat John Kerry for president.

"Canada's basic population is much more intelligent, polite and civilized,"Appoldt said. "I like their way of government a lot better. Their tax dollars go to helping those who need it, instead of funneling money back up to the wealthy and feeding this huge military-industrial machine."

Appoldt, 50, a sales manager, and his wife, a nurse, figure that selling their house and getting their immigration approved could take more than a year. But they're moving, they insist. They've already hired Kischer to help them.

Though he may see a good business opportunity following the election, Kischer has no illusions of a mass American exodus to Canada.

Americans have to follow the same procedures as everybody else -- including the $500 (387 euro) application fee, the $975 (755 euro) landing tax, and the wait of six months to two years.

He only expects about 100 people at each of the how-to-move-to-Canada seminars, all scheduled in Democratic-leaning areas -- December 4 in Seattle, December 5 in Los Angeles and December 6 in San Francisco.

Nancy Bray, a spokeswoman for Citizenship and Immigration Canada, said her agency's Web site received 261,000 hits from the United States in the two days following the election, but it'll be many months before officials can guess how many of them were serious.

"Our interest, our goal, is to attract the best possible immigrants," Bray says. "If there's a lot of publicity about our country, that's to our benefit. But we're not interested in people's political leanings or political dissatisfaction."

Jason Mogus, Communicopia's chief executive, said that while his company wanted to help interested Americans, moving to Canada should be plan B.

"We strongly encourage Americans to stay and build a culture in line with their values," Mogus said. "In other words, stay and fight."
They have a cute top ten list as to why moving to Canada is such a great idea. Let me get it on here. BTW What do you think would be the general reaction from people with a mass exodus to the North? I'm sure Fox would run it as "Good riddance" but what does it say that the election of a man claiming some mystical mandate akin to ruling by drawing a sword from a stone has sparked an exodus of Americans to leave the country. No matter how you might want to spin it, it's slightly embarassing.

Not that I'm advocating leaving. Frankly we NYers tend to live in our own world anyway. Bush is just a blip on our nice free liberal blue city radar. We seem to only exist in his world when he comes here to vulture on 9/11.

EDIT: The Top Ten list
WHY MOVE TO CANADA?
Reasons to move to Canada, as cited by www.canadianalternative.com:

1. Canada has universal public health care.

2. Canada has no troops in Iraq.

3. Canada signed the Kyoto Protocol environmental treaty.

4. More than half of Canada's provinces allow same-sex marriage.

5. The Canadian Senate recommends legalizing marijuana.

6. Canada has no law restricting abortion.

7. Canada has strict gun laws and relatively little violence.

8. The United Nations has ranked Canada the best country to live in for eight consecutive years.

9. Canada abolished the death penalty in 1976.

10. Canada has not run a federal deficit since 1996-97.


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WHY MOVE TO CANADA?
Reasons to move to Canada, as cited by www.canadianalternative.com:

1. Canada has universal public health care.
Awesome.
2. Canada has no troops in Iraq.
Canada gets to decide where Canada's boys go, fine with me.
3. Canada signed the Kyoto Protocol environmental treaty.
Could care less.
4. More than half of Canada's provinces allow same-sex marriage.
Not gay, but there's no logical reason to be against it.
5. The Canadian Senate recommends legalizing marijuana.
Pot's cool, but that whole appointed Senate thing makes me raise an eyebrow.
6. Canada has no law restricting abortion.
Could be useful.
7. Canada has strict gun laws and relatively little violence.
Don't care for first part, second one rocks.
8. The United Nations has ranked Canada the best country to live in for eight consecutive years.
I've got better reasons to move to Canada than the UN saying so. Point against.
9. Canada abolished the death penalty in 1976.
Hmm. Excellent.
10. Canada has not run a federal deficit since 1996-97.
Fiscal conservatism on the Federal level? Surely you jest. But how do the individual provinces stack up?
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8. The United Nations has ranked Canada the best country to live in for eight consecutive years.
I've got better reasons to move to Canada than the UN saying so. Point against.
Of course, the UN probably had several reasonable reasons and criteria to base their report upon
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That list is very tempting. If any thing truly weird happens down here, you'll be getting my call, Canada.
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I thought that site was hysterical. I really don't think that most people who are threatening to leave the country really will.
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1. Canada has universal public health care.
Good...
2. Canada has no troops in Iraq.
Good, but why would this be a reason to immigrate?
3. Canada signed the Kyoto Protocol environmental treaty.
Angain, why is this a reason to emigrate?: and besides, we're not really making an effort to actually follow the treaty...
4. More than half of Canada's provinces allow same-sex marriage.
Good...
5. The Canadian Senate recommends legalizing marijuana.
Good...
6. Canada has no law restricting abortion.
Good...
7. Canada has strict gun laws and relatively little violence.
Part one: bad, Part 2: good.
8. The United Nations has ranked Canada the best country to live in for eight consecutive years.
Not anymore: we're currently at #4, behind Norway, Sweden and Australia. In 2003, we actually ranked #8, behind the United States...
9. Canada abolished the death penalty in 1976.
Bad in my book: Some criminals damn well ought to be killed: If we had the death penalty, that worthless fucker Bernardo would be dead now, rather than living comfortably in prison off our tax dollars...
10. Canada has not run a federal deficit since 1996-97.
Yet again: why is this a reason to emmigrate?
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