New ST-V-SW Site!

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2004-11-16 04:21pm

Rogue 9 wrote:
The Original Nex wrote:The fucker is a whole different kind of dumbass fanboy. He's the "good guys always win, you can't apply to science to it" type. He's a complete and utter asshole and then insults people based on their profession. And they say we flame without good reason!!
He doesn't mean it. He's fishing for a reaction and figured that'd get one. Well he was right.

Just leave him to his fanwanking at the pleasure of getting a reaction.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-11-16 04:21pm

Call in the heavy artillery?

JediMaster415 · Post by **JediMaster415** » 2004-11-16 04:22pm

I was thinking about inviting him for a troll flambe but that seemed like too much of a headache.

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2004-11-16 04:40pm

JediMaster415 wrote:I was thinking about inviting him for a troll flambe but that seemed like too much of a headache.

It can be. like I said, just leave him to wank in this one small pleasure he has in his life.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-11-16 06:37pm

Bummer, I was hoping this would give some new life to the debate!

Maybe in a couple of years...

Oh well. One thing on the site got me though.

It is being claimed that in the novelisation (of ESB) that the asteroid/bridge tower impact sheared off the bridge tower and destroyed the whole ship.

In the movie the results are inconclusive (via the new DVD's). Not having read the novel in years, can anyone confirm or deny his claim?

I know how people feel about the matter in regards to the films, but does the novel actually say what he claims it says? (bridge tower torn off, ISD destroyed)

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2004-11-16 06:44pm

Praxis wrote:Can someone with more scientific knowledge analyze this?
http://www.furryconflict.com/tech/techn ... lting.html

Newland keeps quoting this page claiming 10 gigaton phasers. Ridiculous, but the page still claims 910 megaton minimum for phasers.

Did they take this page down, or am I the only person who gets a 404 when I go to this URL?

In any case, did the author of the page take into account the fact that in a low pressure environment (like space) ice will sublime directly into vapor at much lower temperatures than it would take to vaporize ice under normal Earth temperatures and pressures?

JediMaster415 · Post by **JediMaster415** » 2004-11-16 06:48pm

In the novelization, it wasn't specified what type of vessel was destroyed only that it was a smaller vessel.

He was staring through the large rectangular window above the deck at the raging field of asteroids that was pelting his ship as it glided through space. Hundreds of rocks streaked past the windows. Some collided with one another and exploded in brilliant displays of vivid light.

As Vader watched, one of his smaller ships disintegrated under the impact of an enormous asteroid.

The extra passage was included just in case anyone still doubts the asteroid field's violence or that it was hitting the ship. Now, this is where I come in useful.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2004-11-16 06:49pm

This is disturbing...

The Argumentative Repository of The Furry Conflict provides a forum for the academic and semi-academic hypotheses, arguments, points and debates for those interested in the "versus" school of Star Trek and Star Wars.

At present, I see four articles.

Sublight Engine Performance USS Enterprise: Solar System Exit Analysis October 28, 2003 Marc Xavier
Sublight Engine Performance USS Jenolan: Dyson Sphere Rescue Analysis October 28, 2003 Marc Xavier
Sublight Engine Performance USS Enterprise-E: Warp Flight Chase Analysis October 28, 2003 Marc Xavier
General Starship Resiliency
Imperator-class Star Destroyer: Asteroid Collision Analysis September 19, 2003 G2k

Maybe they need some additional articles for their "Argumentative Repository". I wonder if they've been warned against accepting articles from "Rabid Warsies".

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-11-16 07:24pm

JediMaster415 wrote:Does anyone know any good ways to ignore trolls because I'm having a hard time resisting the urge to delete WordInterrupted.

Keep epeating your stance over and over. Cut and paste it.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-11-16 08:44pm

The guy who's saying the good guys always win; tell him this:
This is Star Trek vs Star Wars. Therefore, the Federation will ALSO have to face Luke Skywalker. Who, of course, always wins, and with FAR less losses and without needing the help of godlike beings (Prophets) either

JediMaster415 · Post by **JediMaster415** » 2004-11-16 09:04pm

That thread's been locked.

Marc Xavier · Post by **Marc Xavier** » 2004-11-16 09:06pm

Ted C wrote:
Praxis wrote:Can someone with more scientific knowledge analyze this?
http://www.furryconflict.com/tech/techn ... lting.html

Newland keeps quoting this page claiming 10 gigaton phasers. Ridiculous, but the page still claims 910 megaton minimum for phasers.
Did they take this page down, or am I the only person who gets a 404 when I go to this URL?

We took it down. That was an incompleted page that didnt even have a public link. I don't know how he got ahold of it.

Ted C wrote:This is disturbing...

The Argumentative Repository of The Furry Conflict provides a forum for the academic and semi-academic hypotheses, arguments, points and debates for those interested in the "versus" school of Star Trek and Star Wars.
At present, I see four articles.

Sublight Engine Performance USS Enterprise: Solar System Exit Analysis October 28, 2003 Marc Xavier
Sublight Engine Performance USS Jenolan: Dyson Sphere Rescue Analysis October 28, 2003 Marc Xavier
Sublight Engine Performance USS Enterprise-E: Warp Flight Chase Analysis October 28, 2003 Marc Xavier
General Starship Resiliency
Imperator-class Star Destroyer: Asteroid Collision Analysis September 19, 2003 G2k
Maybe they need some additional articles for their "Argumentative Repository". I wonder if they've been warned against accepting articles from "Rabid Warsies".

This section of the site has been open for well over a year, and accepts submissions from everyone, including "Rabid Warsies." We've just not recieved any submissions from the other side of the spectrum.

In any event, that portion of the site is slated for deletion (at least from TFC).

Marc Xavier · Post by **Marc Xavier** » 2004-11-16 09:10pm

Correction. As I recall someone from this site did express interest in posting an article, I believe it was Ossus, but the material that he gave us (no offense to Ossus) was basically just a few lines with little explanation or calculation. Barely enough to construct an article.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-11-16 09:22pm

Marc Xavier wrote:Correction. As I recall someone from this site did express interest in posting an article, I believe it was Ossus, but the material that he gave us (no offense to Ossus) was basically just a few lines with little explanation or calculation. Barely enough to construct an article.

It was me. Honestly, I didn't particularly care that much. If DS wants to have his way with TFC, then he's welcome to, as far as I'm concerned.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-11-16 09:54pm

Somebody have the ANH novelization handy? Can you please look up the quote where the stormtroopers blew their own door through a wall to allow for better movement?

JediMaster415 · Post by **JediMaster415** » 2004-11-16 10:08pm

From I have, the novelization only says that the stormtroopers blasted a gaping hole in the door. You do mean the detention cell fight, right?

Luke and Leia had started back up the corridor when a series of blinding explosions ripped the walkway ahead of them. Several troopers had tried coming through the elevator, only to be crisped one after another by Chewbacca. Disdaining the elevators, they had blown a gaping hole through a wall. The opening was too large for Solo and the Wookiee to cover completely. In twos and threes, the Imperials were working their way into the detention block.

Butterbean569 · Post by **Butterbean569** » 2004-11-16 10:15pm

This site made me so pissed off I just wanted to fucking kill someone. If someone I met in real life was this ignorant and stupid, I would have a very hard time not beating the shit out of them. Bah

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-11-16 10:27pm

Ossus, you'll want this quote, too:

pg.118: Turning his pistol to maximum and hoping it wouldn't melt in his hand before it broke through, he opened fire on the door. When the weapon became too hot to hold, he tossed it from hand to hand. As he did so the smoke had time to clear, and he saw with some surprise that the door had been blown away.

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2004-11-16 10:40pm

Butterbean569 wrote:This site made me so pissed off I just wanted to fucking kill someone. If someone I met in real life was this ignorant and stupid, I would have a very hard time not beating the shit out of them. Bah

I hear what you're saying, well sort of, I don't have the urge to kill. Their whole, "stick our fingers in our ears, and scream that the EU doesn't count" is highly annoying.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2004-11-17 12:04am

Lord Poe wrote:Ossus, you'll want this quote, too:

pg.118: Turning his pistol to maximum and hoping it wouldn't melt in his hand before it broke through, he opened fire on the door. When the weapon became too hot to hold, he tossed it from hand to hand. As he did so the smoke had time to clear, and he saw with some surprise that the door had been blown away.

You forgot about the parrt indicating just how thick the door was.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-11-17 12:07am

Good God, it's Stewie!

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-11-17 12:09am

KhyronTheBackstabber wrote:
Butterbean569 wrote:This site made me so pissed off I just wanted to fucking kill someone. If someone I met in real life was this ignorant and stupid, I would have a very hard time not beating the shit out of them. Bah
I hear what you're saying, well sort of, I don't have the urge to kill. Their whole, "stick our fingers in our ears, and scream that the EU doesn't count" is highly annoying.

I do have the urge to smack them in the face sometimes though

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-11-17 12:13am

The memberlist of that forum seems awfuly familiar...

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-11-17 12:14am

Connor MacLeod wrote:You forgot about the parrt indicating just how thick the door was.

Ah, you're right, dude! Thanks for the reminder:

pg.68: The metal door which began moving aside was as thick as her body--as if, she mused bitterly, they were afraid she might break through anything less massive with her bare hands.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-11-17 12:16am

Rogue 9 wrote:Good God, it's Stewie!

The party just keeps gettin' better, gents!