Sarin found in Falluja

Augustus · Post by **Augustus** » 2004-11-17 04:20pm

USA Today

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-11-17 04:21pm

Well apparently the Saudis were running the show in Fallujah, so it probably came from them.

Augustus · Post by **Augustus** » 2004-11-17 04:22pm

Durandal wrote:Well apparently the Saudis were running the show in Fallujah, so it probably came from them.

?? Explain ??

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2004-11-17 04:22pm

That's definitely Cyrillic on the middle packet. Hmmm.......

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-11-17 04:23pm

Say, is that cyrillic text I see on the box in the middle?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-11-17 04:23pm

Ack, the Commies planted it!

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-11-17 04:27pm

Is this supposed to prove that Bush was right? I did not know that this piddly shit was a threat to the Almighty Jesus-Protected US of A.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-11-17 04:27pm

Augustus wrote:
Durandal wrote:Well apparently the Saudis were running the show in Fallujah, so it probably came from them.
?? Explain ??

Shep posted in a thread about how the Marines found a prisoner held by insurgents in Fallujah; he said that the whole show was being run by Syrians.

Post by **Edi** » 2004-11-17 04:28pm

And this means exactly what? That's right, nothing. The WMD claims prewar talked about TONS and tens or hundreds or thousands of TONS os biological and chemical weapons, and I'm getting fucking sick and tired of every discovery of a tiny stash of stuff that got overlooked when Iraq destroyed most of its WMD programs back in the early 1990s being hailed as proof of the WMD argument, which is exactly what the opening post looks like or at least implies.

Yes, there were 40 vials of Sarin, and it could be nasty if used against troops (assuming it was used correctly and was viable), but it does not alter the fact that every news item abou the supposed bio and chem weapons has been overspun, overhyped tripe.

Edi

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-11-17 04:29pm

Aum Shinrikyo had sarin. Should we go after them too? Really, this is heavily overblown. If this is a risk to the US, then the US has shit for defence. A mental patient and a shotgun would be more of a threat.

Augustus · Post by **Augustus** » 2004-11-17 04:30pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Is this supposed to prove that Bush was right? I did not know that this piddly shit was a threat to the Almighty Jesus-Protected US of A.

Has anyone claimed Bush was right because of this? Give it a rest.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-11-17 04:31pm

Augustus wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Is this supposed to prove that Bush was right? I did not know that this piddly shit was a threat to the Almighty Jesus-Protected US of A.
Has anyone claimed Bush was right because of this? Give it a rest.

I have come to expect vieled arguments from demonstrated Bush whores.

Augustus · Post by **Augustus** » 2004-11-17 04:37pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:I have come to expect vieled arguments from demonstrated Bush whores.

Thank you for validating my reasoning behind providing the picture without commentary.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-11-17 04:41pm

Durandal wrote:
Augustus wrote:
Durandal wrote:Well apparently the Saudis were running the show in Fallujah, so it probably came from them.
?? Explain ??
Shep posted in a thread about how the Marines found a prisoner held by insurgents in Fallujah; he said that the whole show was being run by Syrians.

How do you go from Syrians to Saudis?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-11-17 04:43pm

Master of Ossus wrote:
Durandal wrote:
Augustus wrote: ?? Explain ??
Shep posted in a thread about how the Marines found a prisoner held by insurgents in Fallujah; he said that the whole show was being run by Syrians.
How do you go from Syrians to Saudis?

D'oh! I meant Syrians the first time.

Sebastin · Post by **Sebastin** » 2004-11-17 04:47pm

Not to dismiss it out of hand, but...

These look exactly like standart test tubes used to test for the presence of something in the air.
You break the glass at the narrow parts and pluck them into a special hand pump to pump a defined amount of surrounding air through them. The color of the active part is then supposed to change, indicating the result. I got a bunch of visually identical ones around, except for the red band. Mine have differently colored bands in different locations. I think it´s supposed to be some kind of code, but i never lerned what exactly it means.

OH, and there is german writing on them.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2004-11-17 04:50pm

Augustus wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:I have come to expect vieled arguments from demonstrated Bush whores.
Thank you for validating my reasoning behind providing the picture without commentary.

I have to agree with Augustus on this one.

Augustus · Post by **Augustus** » 2004-11-17 04:52pm

Edi wrote:And this means exactly what? That's right, nothing. The WMD claims prewar talked about TONS and tens or hundreds or thousands of TONS os biological and chemical weapons, and I'm getting fucking sick and tired of every discovery of a tiny stash of stuff that got overlooked when Iraq destroyed most of its WMD programs back in the early 1990s being hailed as proof of the WMD argument, which is exactly what the opening post looks like or at least implies.

Edi, be my guest reach what ever conclusion you want to about the opening post. However, You will notice that no argument is presented with the picture. For my part it is a picture of some nasty shit and it makes me worry about my friends over there.

Yes, there were 40 vials of Sarin, and it could be nasty if used against troops (assuming it was used correctly and was viable), but it does not alter the fact that every news item abou the supposed bio and chem weapons has been overspun, overhyped tripe.

Ditto

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-11-17 04:54pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Aum Shinrikyo had sarin. Should we go after them too?

The phrase 'fuck yeah' comes to mind. But the Japanese police already did a fairly good job of busting them up so it would be a rather pointles exercise.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-11-17 04:55pm

You know, I have to boggle at Sarin packets, in Iraq, with Russian, English, and German language instructions. Sure as hell aren't local.

desertjedi · Post by **desertjedi** » 2004-11-17 05:11pm

I think those might be testing kits... rather then sarin itself...

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-11-17 05:20pm

desertjedi wrote:I think those might be testing kits... rather then sarin itself...

Testing kits? You mean like 'Break glass, if it turns yellow, the air is poison'?

Psycho Smiley · Post by **Psycho Smiley** » 2004-11-17 05:21pm

Apparently, NPR is now confirming that these are indeed only test kits, as Sebastin and desertjedi say. The German text translates to "to handling see guidance" AKA "see instructions for use".

Augustus · Post by **Augustus** » 2004-11-17 05:26pm

Psycho Smiley wrote:Apparently, NPR is now confirming that these are indeed only test kits, as Sebastin and desertjedi say. The German text translates to "to handling see guidance" AKA "see instructions for use".

Thats a relief.

Although it does make you wonder WTF the nutjobs overthere are doing with Gas-Binary testing kits? I find it hard to believe that Akmed was lugging these things around just for the hell of it.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-11-17 05:30pm

Augustus wrote:
Psycho Smiley wrote:Apparently, NPR is now confirming that these are indeed only test kits, as Sebastin and desertjedi say. The German text translates to "to handling see guidance" AKA "see instructions for use".
Thats a relief.

Although it does make you wonder WTF the nutjobs overthere are doing with Gas-Binary testing kits? I find it hard to believe that Akmed was lugging these things around just for the hell of it.

Well, stop a moment. Even we were all standing saying 'Look, Sarin!'. It sounds a bit like the story about A-Q trying to buy nukes from the Russian Mafia.

'Sure, bud. These are sarin gas. Look right there, says 'Sarin' on the label.'