Dolphins save swimmers from shark

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-11-25 09:42am

weemadando wrote:Either that or they just fucking hate sharks.

Everyone hates sharks, except for greenies.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2004-11-25 02:25pm

The Japanese love sharks, especially their fins.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-11-25 02:35pm

Sam Or I wrote:Hmmmm.... the Simpson Tree House of Horror episode comes to mind.

Saw that one again not long ago. I loved the bit with Lenny being beaten up and the final fight.

"Got to hand it to them dolphins. They sure fought hard."

Post by **weemadando** » 2004-11-25 08:21pm

Imperial Overlord wrote:The Japanese love sharks, especially their fins. :)

FUCK YOU.

Until you've seen the result of shark-finning don't even fucking joke about it. If there was one industry in the world I could just flatly BAN - that would be it.

When you cut the fins off a shark and toss them back - its like cutting the feet off a lion and still expecting it to hunt gazelle. It can't it will slowly starve (thats if it can even still swim - if it can't it will drown), this leads to increased aggressiveness toward things that they CAN still catch, like people.

But mainly I hate it because its a fucking cruel industry that is MASSIVELY wasteful (atleast take the whole fucking shark, not just less than 2% of its body mass and toss the rest back) for a product that is just plain shit in the end and can be easily synthesised.

Shark-finning - just say no motherfuckers.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2004-11-25 08:34pm

Thanks for the FUCK YOU. I'll joke about what I please, thank you very much.

Post by **weemadando** » 2004-11-25 08:54pm

Imperial Overlord wrote:Thanks for the FUCK YOU. I'll joke about what I please, thank you very much.

Its something I feel very strongly about as I suppose you have noticed. No offense intended, but it is my pet peeve when it comes to "cruelty to animals".

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2004-11-25 09:15pm

No biggie. I don't like it either. My humor tends towards the black.

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2004-11-25 09:17pm

weemadando wrote:*Snippity*

They cut their fins off and leave them alive?! Where's a throwing-up-emoticon when you need one?

Post by **weemadando** » 2004-11-25 09:33pm

Imperial Overlord wrote:No biggie. I don't like it either. My humor tends towards the black.

My humour is also black as black can be, but when you see the after effects of this shit (like sharks writhing on the oceanfloor like a worm because they can't swim...)

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-11-25 09:37pm

weemadando wrote:
Imperial Overlord wrote:No biggie. I don't like it either. My humor tends towards the black.
My humour is also black as black can be, but when you see the after effects of this shit (like sharks writhing on the oceanfloor like a worm because they can't swim...)

63 countries banned shark finning in the atlantic just this weeks.

ANd I agree with you, shark finning is fucking sick. 100 million top predators killed every fucking year. They cant even make up the population loss due to a slow reproductive rate.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2004-11-25 10:00pm

But we have to have our soup! And we need our rhino horn aphrodesiacs! And God made us masters of the Earth so we can do what we want!

I love our species, can't you tell?

Post by **weemadando** » 2004-11-25 10:06pm

Imperial Overlord wrote:But we have to have our soup! And we need our rhino horn aphrodesiacs! And God made us masters of the Earth so we can do what we want! :evil:

I love our species, can't you tell?

I know - seriously what is it with Asians and just having the most fucked up methods of obtaining and preparing food/medicine?

I have no problem with killing and eating sharks, in fact I like flake, it tastes fucking good. But just taking the fins and tossing them back - sharkfin is so terribly bland and the texture can be recreated using some vermicelli and gelatin.

What about tiger testicles? Rhino horn? Bear gall-bladder? Such a messed up collection of stuff...

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2004-11-25 10:16pm

Gah, don't even get me started; You can walk into most medicine shops and find Antler horns right next to the cough drops. It shouldn't be allowed to continue, but traditional medicine refuses to die.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-11-25 10:54pm

weemadando wrote:
Imperial Overlord wrote:But we have to have our soup! And we need our rhino horn aphrodesiacs! And God made us masters of the Earth so we can do what we want!

I love our species, can't you tell?
I know - seriously what is it with Asians and just having the most fucked up methods of obtaining and preparing food/medicine?

I have no problem with killing and eating sharks, in fact I like flake, it tastes fucking good. But just taking the fins and tossing them back - sharkfin is so terribly bland and the texture can be recreated using some vermicelli and gelatin.

What about tiger testicles? Rhino horn? Bear gall-bladder? Such a messed up collection of stuff...

I refuse to eat shark for the very reason that they are overfished... I cant in good concience eat a top predator, without which the world's palagic ecosystems collapse

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2004-11-25 11:00pm

Perhaps it is better then if we do not arm them with the sonic cannons less they get any uppity ideas.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-11-25 11:11pm

Some days I think the Australian Navy should declare massive tracts of the Pacific and artic ocens 'protected zones'. The fucking Japense CONSTENTLY send boats to slice fins off sharks, butcher up whales and so on, then constently claim its for 'scientific reasearch'.

We should have ships patroling the zone. We should board the ships and insepct them. If they are doing illegal things (which 99.999% of them are) then we impound the ships. When the Japanese bitch, release the evidence to the media of what they have been doing.

If they still don't get the message, have their ships 'mysteriously' blow up for no reason. Hopefuly they will get the point.

I have little respect for many parts of the Japanese culutre, THIS is one of them. They happily harvest endangered species against all international protests. They put TITANIC economic preasure on tiny pacific island nations to not outlaw it, they have no choice as they can't afford to piss off Jappan. And they generate enough votes in the various pacific forums so that the major nations can't pass bans on these practices.

So yes, starting to torpedo fishing boats randomly might eventualy get the idea in that its not a good idea.

PackMule · Post by **PackMule** » 2004-11-26 12:52am

Was a follow up story on 3 News tonight (One of NZ's two nightly News shows).

Apparently two dolphins from the same pod have been found killed with the tails cut off. People are justifiably outraged. Wasn't a big article, being overshadowed by stories about the Erebus accident anniversary.

What sort of a sick fuck would cut the tail off a dolphin?

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-11-26 12:55am

A sick fuck with a taste for rare seafood, certain nations *coughJapancough* have no problems harvesting rare sea mammal parts for restuants.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-11-26 01:24am

Chris OFarrell wrote:If they still don't get the message, have their ships 'mysteriously' blow up for no reason. Hopefuly they will get the point.

Assuming you're being serious, how does one 'mysteriously blow up' fishing ships, exactly? Do as Sea Shepard does, and sink boats that 'don't exist'?

So yes, starting to torpedo fishing boats randomly might eventualy get the idea in that its not a good idea.

Or it might lead to war. People are touchy at getting ships fired upon by other nations. And we would be the aggressors.

I appreciate your sentiment, and I hate the way these pirates rape the oceans for short term profit. I would like to have the military muscle to sink these fuckers to the bottom of the sea, but we don't have it. There's also that pesky matter of international law, but who gives a fuck about that?

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-11-26 01:29am

Stofsk call me an asshole, but aren't these boys breaking a few International Enviromental Protection Laws?

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-11-26 01:41am

frigidmagi wrote:Stofsk call me an asshole, but aren't these boys breaking a few International Enviromental Protection Laws?

Sure they are. And those laws SHOULD be enforced, but I'm a cynic: I see stories like how someone cut off the tails of dolphins that days before saved a group of humans from being some shark's lunch, and I think "No-one really cares about international laws. Or else shit like this wouldn't be done." I mean fuck the Japanese, and their 'scientific research' bullshit. Fuck these PIRATES.

But WHAT do you DO about it?

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-11-26 01:58am

Stofsk wrote:
Chris OFarrell wrote:If they still don't get the message, have their ships 'mysteriously' blow up for no reason. Hopefuly they will get the point.
Assuming you're being serious, how does one 'mysteriously blow up' fishing ships, exactly? Do as Sea Shepard does, and sink boats that 'don't exist'?

Oh no. I mean that they are happily puttering along over some very deep water when without warning the thing blows sky high. No-one claims any respnosibility, no-one claims any knowedlge (though we could always frame PETA).

Or it might lead to war. People are touchy at getting ships fired upon by other nations. And we would be the aggressors.

I think most people can see that I was not being THAT serious about blowing their boats up. But if a Government actualy launched a systematic investigation from the noodle houses in Jappan where the 'scientific analysis' ends up right back up the chain to the boats...then brings it before a body like the UN to show how Jappan is vigeriously hunting legaly protected species to extinction for food, that might make an impact.

THEN you might get approval to send warships to 'patrol' and insepct ships, ala the Oil inspections in the Gulf. At the very LEAST you'll rapidly make it unprofitable for them, if they aint bringing back anything to the Tokyo restraunts.

I appreciate your sentiment, and I hate the way these pirates rape the oceans for short term profit. I would like to have the military muscle to sink these fuckers to the bottom of the sea, but we don't have it. There's also that pesky matter of international law, but who gives a fuck about that?

Well technicaly THEY are violating said law. Certain species (that Jappan activly hunts) are protected legaly, so you can only catch a tiny amoutn of them for scientific research. Unsurprisingly, every Jappense whaler claims they are on 'scientific research' missions...even when there are an order of magnitude more of them hunting at one time, then the total yearly intake!

I remember ages ago off the Australian coast a media aircraft overflew such a ship. The crew were waving massive signs saying 'This is for scientific research' as they casuly sliced it up into meat lockers...

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-11-26 02:11am

But WHAT do you DO about it?

I wanna sink boats and not take prisoners, what did you think my answer would be?

The real question is what are the governments of the world going to let us do isn't it?

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-11-26 10:43am

If the japanese could build a huge syphoon that would suck every drop of the ocean and remove every life form for their consumption, they would.

Post by **weemadando** » 2004-11-29 09:47pm

Well I know our Collins class and ANZAC class have new fire control systems that need some testing...