Lord Solar Macharius vs The Federation

General G · Post by **General G** » 2002-07-21 03:15pm

Instead of ending his campaign at the edge of the galaxy Macharius advances into the unexplored regions and discoveres a wormhole leading to the borders of the federation. Can the federation keep the Imperium of Man's greatest general from conquering them?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-07-21 03:31pm

In battle the Feds are royally screwed once again, in that a single IoM cruiser is 8km long and brisling with guns, and Marchis' flagship was about 20 km long and equipped as an exterminator. Howver Marchius would have problemas without the astronomicon for navigation.

If the feds get anywhere near him they are totally dead, however the jump range of his ships without the astronomicon is only 4 light years... so it's gonna take him some time.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-07-22 02:27am

The Federation GF are royally dead,Imperial guard would eat them up ,The true terrors would be Imperial Assasins,Battle Titans ,And Space Marines.And Heaven help them if there are any Inquisitors along.....

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2002-07-22 07:30am

NecronLord wrote:In battle the Feds are royally screwed once again, in that a single IoM cruiser is 8km long and brisling with guns, and Marchis' flagship was about 20 km long and equipped as an exterminator.

Erm.... I thought the Imperium's cruisers only were 3km long??? (Perhaps 4-5km for a Vengeance-class Grand Cruiser)

Other figures on IoM ships are pure speculation. However, if the models from Battlefleet Gothic are to scale, their escort ships are 1-1½km long, a Dauntless-class light cruiser is 2250m long, a grand cruiser is 3400m long, battleship is 3785m long and Abaddon's planetkiller is 4600m long.

I think only the Dominion, the Borg and the Voth can come up with ships that big. And after the Dominion receiving an emasculation after trying to invade to Alpha Quadrant, I think they're quite weak now. The Borg couldn't beat Species 8472, but the Imperium seems to be somewhat able to hold back the Tyranids, the 40K universe's equivalent of Species 8472.... (although the Tyranids seem to be gaining edge and edge)....

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-07-22 01:21pm

Nope a Lunar class cruiser is about the size of an SSD, while an emeror class battleship is enormous

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2002-07-22 02:12pm

NecronLord wrote:Nope a Lunar class cruiser is about the size of an SSD, while an emeror class battleship is enormous

Where do you have that information from??

I know that an old short story lists a Dictator-class as being 30km long, but for the amount of crew, the novel "Execution Hour" lists a very low number of crew for a 30km long ship.

By the way, an Executor-class SSD is much bigger than 8km. At least 17km.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2002-07-23 02:41am

-thought the eclipses were 17km. . .-

MagicHateBall · Post by **MagicHateBall** » 2002-07-23 03:16am

They are. All the SDs slapped with the general "Super" label (Sovereigns, Executors, and Eclipses) are in the neighborhood of 15-18 km in length.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2002-07-23 03:25am

really? I thought supers were their own class, 8km long. have to look that up. . .

MagicHateBall · Post by **MagicHateBall** » 2002-07-23 03:30am

Nope.
What you're probably thinking of as the Super is the Executor-class command ship.
If you want to do any looking up of classes of SD, go here:
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/daggerid.html
This is a pretty complete index of all the Star Destroyers seen in the movies, RPG supplements, and comics, done by Curtis Saxton.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2002-07-23 03:59am

gotcha

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-07-23 06:16am

Yes I've read the SWTC however a case can still be made for the 8km figure, i was being conservative, Its in battlefleet gothinc somewhere. i'll have to look it up.