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Crossover_Maniac wrote: So, you only like Christians that agrees with you and doesn't believe in their own religion's teachings? Look, you're quite welcome to your opinion, but don't demand something you're not willing to give yourself. If you can't even say, "I don't believe in Christian doctrine" without throwing a couple of insults into your conversation, then why should the Fundies, as you so lovely refer to those Christians that actually believe in their own religion, give you any consideration? Why shouldn't they show the same disdain you show them?
It's like talking with a stone wall..

LOOK, if you believe in ANYTHING which goes directely against SCIENCE AND DIRECT OBSERVATION, then you be damned well prepared to defend your claims and stand the heat.

God doesn't go against science. Claiming the Earth is round does. Why is it so hard to understand? And if you take phrases from a book and hold them as universal truths, closing your eye to the real world, then you're obviously an idiot. For Christ's sake, the Pope has recognized that.

It's not Christian douctrine to take the Bible literally. It's fundies douctrine. The great majority of Christians DO NOT take the Bible literally.

Tell me the last time I sacked someone for believing in God, or for attending Church.

ONE LAST TIME, The Bible was written BY MEN, not dictated by God to a secretary. Men, no mather how wise, are limited by the science surronding them. Do you THINK that, if the Bible was written nowadays, it wouldn't make clear references to a round Earth orbiting the Sun?

To end, I don't like PEOPLE WHO SCORN AT SCIENCE. Being Christians, atheists, pagans or racists.
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Indeed, stone wall, but what do you expect? They're fundies after all. *sigh*

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Colonel Olrik wrote: God doesn't go against science. Claiming the Earth is round does.
Flat, damn it! Flat
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http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/1107scout.asp

The opinion of moronic fundies on the atheist scout thing. In short: it was the fault of science.
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Edi wrote:Indeed, stone wall, but what do you expect? They're fundies after all. *sigh*

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I'M NOT A FUNDIE

See what I mean. Anyone who does not agree is labeled a fundie

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Pu-239 wrote:
Edi wrote:Indeed, stone wall, but what do you expect? They're fundies after all. *sigh*

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I'M NOT A FUNDIE

See what I mean. Anyone who does not agree is labeled a fundie
When and where did he say, "You, Pu-239, are a fundie"? Nowhere. He was making a generalization. And anyone that disagrees is not labeled a fundie, just those that can't back up claims. :wink:
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Generalizations are what ticks people off. They are bad. Too bad they are part of human nature. *shrug*

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someone open the drawers with the Fundamentalist Moron titles.
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Pu-239 wrote:Generalizations are what ticks people off. They are bad. Too bad they are part of human nature. *shrug*
Right, and you generalizing about the members of this board is alright though. :roll:
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someone open the drawers with the Fundamentalist Moron titles.
I'll just shut up before fundamentalist moron titles get passed out :(
And thanks for proving my point.

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God doesn't go against science. Claiming the Earth is round does.
You've got it backward. Claiming the Earth is round doesn't go against science, but the idea of God does, as it is an unknown term that offers no useful predictive or explicatory capacity.
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Pu-239 wrote:
someone open the drawers with the Fundamentalist Moron titles.
I'll just shut up before fundamentalist moron titles get passed out :(
And thanks for proving my point.
I don't think Salm was referring to you. And if he was, I don't think you deserve one based on what I've read of your posts.
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Durandal wrote:
God doesn't go against science. Claiming the Earth is round does.
You've got it backward. Claiming the Earth is round doesn't go against science, but the idea of God does, as it is an unknown term that offers no useful predictive or explicatory capacity.
Typo error. I corrected it afterwards. My idea was not exactly that. I meant that you can believe in an abstract entity (irrational believe, unprovable) as long as that belief doesn't get contradicted by facts.

If someone says that God created the conditions for the Big Bang, for example, our actual knowledge of science cannot disprove that. It's not a satisfactory explanation, from the scientific point of view, but it does not goes against known facts.

If you belief Earth is flat, or in the biblical Creation,or in the Flood, then you're going against hard facts and scientific evidence which deny those ocurrences.
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I wonder what it's like...To think so highly of someone, who's helped a cause so greatly, who is friendly and willing...And finding some superficial thing that goes against your belief, to expel him, ignoring everything he's done. It would tear my mind apart.
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Sienthal wrote:I wonder what it's like...To think so highly of someone, who's helped a cause so greatly, who is friendly and willing...And finding some superficial thing that goes against your belief, to expel him, ignoring everything he's done. It would tear my mind apart.
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What are you talking about?

About crossover_Maniac? He started the discussion, and self-expeled himself in the beggining.
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Nobody here deserves the title yet. I'm sure he was misguided at some point and isn't feeling rational at this time. The Fundamentalist moron title only goes to the staunchest, least rational fundies.
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No, about those officials in the article, :)
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Sienthal wrote:No, about those officials in the article, :)
Sorry, my mistake. I kind of forgot what was being discussed :P

You're absolutely right.
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Not a problem
It happens a lot around here, so it's nothing new :)
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