Extra AT-AT blasters?

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-12-02 01:10am

In TESB, right after Luke says "Hang on Dack!" the AT-AT firing on them is a bit odd. The blaster bolts come from a few metres above the head, but there aren't any blasters mounted there! Perhaps some enthusiastic snowtroopers were firing out of air vents? Has this been noticed before?

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-12-02 02:12am

I'm inclined to say "SFX gaffe!" just reading your description of the scene. Sort of like the "detaching/re-attaching" arrow on the Scouttrooper in ROTJ. But I do like your explanation!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-12-02 02:43am

No such vents exist on the front side of the AT-AT. The closest things are two air intake vents on the very top front of the large portion of the mid-section, and according to the OT ICS, those are above the interior ceiling.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-12-02 03:18am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:No such vents exist on the front side of the AT-AT. The closest things are two air intake vents on the very top front of the large portion of the mid-section, and according to the OT ICS, those are above the interior ceiling.

Well for what it's worth, "The underside of the foot can even sink into the main body of the foot pad, as seen during the crushing of Luke Skywalker's snowspeeder. This feature is not shown in the STAR WARS Incredible Cross Sections diagrams."
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/walkers.html#atat-motion

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-12-02 03:23am

Um, what the hell does that have to do with anything?

I mean, really...

Macross · Post by **Macross** » 2004-12-02 03:27am

If you look closely the side guns are angled upward the first time they fire. You can then see the guns track downward for the second shot. So what you are seeing is the guns fireing from positions.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-12-02 03:28am

I was pointing out Saxton's "This feature is not shown in the STAR WARS Incredible Cross Sections diagrams."

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-12-02 03:31am

To something COMPLETELY UNRELATED, you putz.

A nitpick for myself: they're actually "atmosphere intake" vents.

Even considering that the AT-AT in the OT ICS is somewhat too small compared to the actual size, there's at least a metre-thick of enclosed machinery above the second level's ceiling. It'd be impossible.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-12-02 03:35am

Macross wrote:If you look closely the side guns are angled upward the first time they fire. You can then see the guns track downward for the second shot. So what you are seeing is the guns fireing from positions.

I haven't got the DVD, but it looks to me like the blasts come from about halfway between the top of the head and the very top of the walker, too far away to be coming from even the side guns. I'd greatly appreciate someone posting DVD screencaps.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-12-02 03:36am

Yeah, the OT ICS made a horrible mistake with the AT-AT, it clearly seems to be going by the erroneous EU size. For shame.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-12-02 03:38am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:To something COMPLETELY UNRELATED, you putz.

A nitpick for myself: they're actually "atmosphere intake" vents.

Even considering that the AT-AT in the OT ICS is somewhat too small compared to the actual size, there's at least a metre-thick of enclosed machinery above the second level's ceiling. It'd be impossible.

I did only say 'well, for what it's worth', just to point out that the ICS isn't perfect. There's also about a metre of machinery blocking the foot pad from retracting.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-12-02 03:41am

Again, so what? Seriously. You're basically saying "one thing here is wrong, so another thing over there might be wrong, too!"

Stop before you further embarass yourself by going after trivial, unrelated matters. The fact is that they'd have to rip out the AT-AT's atmosphere system, along with whatever else is up there, just to take a few pot shots.

Macross has also clarified what's really happening, so it's moot now.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-12-02 03:44am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Again, so what? Seriously.

Stop before you further embarass yourself by going after trivial, unrelated matters. The fact is that they'd have to rip out the AT-AT's atmosphere system, along with whatever else is up there, just to take a few pot shots.

God, the whole 'enthusiastic snowtrooper' thing was just an off the cuff comment, i didn't expect anyone to go ballistic on me.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-12-02 03:46am

I'm not going ballistic (I haven't called you a stupid cunt yet, for one

), I just didn't think it would be possible, so I checked for evidence whether or not it was, off the cuff or not.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-12-02 03:49am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I'm not going ballistic (I haven't called you a stupid cunt yet, for one ), I just didn't think it would be possible, so I checked for evidence whether or not it was, off the cuff or not.

Fair enough.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-12-02 03:53am

Yeah, part of it's my fault as well: I'm not at all a fan of the "throw out guesses" approach to analysis and speculation.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-12-02 09:43am

Hey! I've got an idea! Maybe... *looks at Spanky's last post* ...nevermind.

The Silence and I · Post by **The Silence and I** » 2004-12-02 11:29am

linky
There are actually two such shots, one on each side of the head. This is the second and is much easier to see. (Note, I cropped the image)

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2004-12-02 10:42pm

Seems to have cleared things up. Though in the event that it did not, we could've always claim it was an AT-ST covering the AT-AT's rear (or whatever.)

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-12-03 10:39am

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:we could've always claim it was an AT-ST covering the AT-AT's rear

By shooting through it? Brilliant tactic!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-12-03 10:40am

Must be some kind of field testing for a new selective opacity neutrino cannon.

drachefly · Post by **drachefly** » 2004-12-03 03:25pm

Even more than the head, that looks like it's coming from the body of the walker... but that too is just armor, right?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-12-03 03:37pm

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-12-03 05:55pm

Two words: Cloaked. Walker.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2004-12-03 08:18pm

Having not seen it in motion, this may not be a plausible explanation, but could it be a bad shot that originated from the side cannon and is traveling over the snowspeeder, creating an angle where the shot appears to be above the walker, but actually originated at the head? That's what it looks to possibly be from the still.

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