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Release the virus?

Yeah! Kill the fundies!
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It's immoral, but for the good of the human race we must.
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No. I will not condone an act of genocide.
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Anti-fundie virus

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A brilliant scientist has created an incredibly lethal virus that only attacks religious fundamentalists. This virus is 100% reliable, so there is no risk of anyone else being harmed. If the virus is released, it will result in the immediate death of all fundies.

The question before the house is: do you release the virus?

PROS: Destroying all fundies will rid the Erath of the single largest source of stupidity and bigotry on the planet, improving quality of life for everyone that remains.

Without fundies to lead the crusade against nonconventional families, sexual preferences etc., legal recognition of hman rights will increase.

Science will increase by leaps and bounds now that it no longer has to defend itself politically.

The average intelligence of the human gene pool will increase.

CONS: Releasing the virus would be an act of genocide and therefore immoral.

The human population would be substantially reduced (although, this might be a good thing)

Any good efforts supported by fundies (most charities, for instance) would be lost.

So, do you release the virus?

P.S. Fundies are not encouraged to reply, as opinions derived from self-preservation instinct are inherently biased.
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You're....odd.
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Release it?

I personaly dumb it into the water supply!

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Dumb it in the water? You want a wet, stupid virus? :mrgreen:
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You want a wet, stupid virus?
Short of Walking around with Hypodermic needles there is few ways to introduce Fundies to Virus unless it also happens to be Sexualy tramintalbe, And besides people ask questions if you walk around poking fokes with Hypodermic needels or renting a Cesna and Buying Sprayer equipment then flying over Citys

However one can still dumb things into Resivors and not have an eybrow rasied

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:idea:

Well, this *could* get rid of the Mid East problem on a permanent basis...


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This is fucking SICK! :x

Fundamentalists are ignorant or brainwashed people. Its not their fucking fault they are the way they are. We already KNOW for a fact that peoples religous upbringing has a direct relation (most of the time) as to what sort of religon they choose. Your a fucking sicko for even posting this thread. :evil:
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I will leave this topic open for now, but it is under observation. If this were to turn into a flamefest, it will be locked.
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Mr Bean wrote:
You want a wet, stupid virus?
Short of Walking around with Hypodermic needles there is few ways to introduce Fundies to Virus unless it also happens to be Sexualy tramintalbe, And besides people ask questions if you walk around poking fokes with Hypodermic needels or renting a Cesna and Buying Sprayer equipment then flying over Citys

However one can still dumb things into Resivors and not have an eybrow rasied

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Sexually transmitable... Hehe, lots of them are going to get it because they don't use condoms :lol:

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Alyeska wrote:This is fucking SICK! :x

Fundamentalists are ignorant or brainwashed people. Its not their fucking fault they are the way they are. We already KNOW for a fact that peoples religous upbringing has a direct relation (most of the time) as to what sort of religon they choose. Your a fucking sicko for even posting this thread. :evil:
I'm sorry, I thought this was the "Science, Logic, and Morality" forum, not the "let's flame everyone who asks uncomfortable questions forum." I came here expecting a rational debate, but when I get fucktards like you and Mr. Bean who refuse to debate in a rational fashion just because you don't like the question, I begin to have doubts about the reputation of SD.net. Tell me, are all your people as immature as these two, or is there someone here willing to rationally debate the question?
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Not to be mean but....

*looks at third option*

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Alyeska wrote:This is fucking SICK! :x

Fundamentalists are ignorant or brainwashed people. Its not their fucking fault they are the way they are. We already KNOW for a fact that peoples religous upbringing has a direct relation (most of the time) as to what sort of religon they choose. Your a fucking sicko for even posting this thread. :evil:
It is not their fault they are the way they are. It IS, however, their fault that they refuse to change it. ;)
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Exonerate wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:
You want a wet, stupid virus?
Short of Walking around with Hypodermic needles there is few ways to introduce Fundies to Virus unless it also happens to be Sexualy tramintalbe, And besides people ask questions if you walk around poking fokes with Hypodermic needels or renting a Cesna and Buying Sprayer equipment then flying over Citys

However one can still dumb things into Resivors and not have an eybrow rasied

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Sexually transmitable... Hehe, lots of them are going to get it because they don't use condoms :lol:
Problem is, they don't have premarital sex...mak it a hereditary thing then?
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How can you justify KILLING an entire swathe of the population based solely on religious beliefs/intelligence.

Doing that only takes us down to their level. If not beneath it - BECAUSE WE SHOULD KNOW BETTER!

I would instead choose to alter the virus so it became a moderating agent, not a "cure".
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weemadando wrote:How can you justify KILLING an entire swathe of the population based solely on religious beliefs/intelligence.

Doing that only takes us down to their level. If not beneath it - BECAUSE WE SHOULD KNOW BETTER!

I would instead choose to alter the virus so it became a moderating agent, not a "cure".
I was just thinking that, btw...
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but when I get fucktards like you and Mr. Bean who refuse to debate in a rational fashion just because you don't like the question, I begin to have doubts about the reputation of SD.net. Tell me, are all your people as immature as these two, or is there someone here willing to rationally debate the question?
I see, Fucktards like Old Bean the Moderator? Kindly explain your statment consdiring the fact I'm dead fucking serious


I would release it without a second though, What did I say eariler? It is logicaly moral to help your species, by your set-up this is nothing but a good thing therfore logic dictates the virus is realsed

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First, logic does not dictate the world....there is too much entropy and complete randomness for logic to do so.

Second, there ARE downsides to it, as outlined above.

Of course, this does not change my views, as the pros severely outweigh the cons.
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data_link wrote:
Alyeska wrote:This is fucking SICK! :x

Fundamentalists are ignorant or brainwashed people. Its not their fucking fault they are the way they are. We already KNOW for a fact that peoples religous upbringing has a direct relation (most of the time) as to what sort of religon they choose. Your a fucking sicko for even posting this thread. :evil:
I'm sorry, I thought this was the "Science, Logic, and Morality" forum, not the "let's flame everyone who asks uncomfortable questions forum." I came here expecting a rational debate, but when I get fucktards like you and Mr. Bean who refuse to debate in a rational fashion just because you don't like the question, I begin to have doubts about the reputation of SD.net. Tell me, are all your people as immature as these two, or is there someone here willing to rationally debate the question?
You know Hitler wanted to remove an "undesirable" element from society to. Doesn't stop me from insulting the little fuck for what he was.
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You know Hitler wanted to remove an "undesirable" element from society to. Doesn't stop me from insulting the little fuck for what he was.
Undesirable for him, It was not logical it was stuiped so we insult him


Allow me to use a saying

The avarage intellgence in the world is 100
Half of the Popluation falls below that,

We are removing a good specturm of the for saddly lack of a better term "useless" fokes who impeded and slow down the growth of mankind

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Mr Bean wrote:
You know Hitler wanted to remove an "undesirable" element from society to. Doesn't stop me from insulting the little fuck for what he was.
Undesirable for him, It was not logical it was stuiped so we insult him


Allow me to use a saying

The avarage intellgence in the world is 100
Half of the Popluation falls below that,

We are removing a good specturm of the for saddly lack of a better term "useless" fokes who impeded and slow down the growth of mankind
I guess you don't care about the fact that inteligence is more or less random and that two people under 90 can produce someone at 130? I take it you don't care about the fact that brilliant people can produce people under 100. I guess you don't care that these "idiots" can still be valuable members of society. I also take it you don't give a shit that at least half the "fundies" are actually above 100? Didn't you know? Even smart people can be brainwashed. Or do you really think that the MAJORITY of the middle east is just born stupiud and not brainwashed into what they believe?

You people are the dumb idiots you claim you want to kill.
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What a load of horseshit this is. So you want to kill somebody you don't even know... just because they have a different religion than you do? Isn't that making you even worse than they are?

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I guess you don't care about the fact that inteligence is more or less random and that two people under 90 can produce someone at 130?
Nooo thats called Genetics, Remeber the situation at hand
Without fundies to lead the crusade against nonconventional families, sexual preferences etc., legal recognition of hman rights will increase.

Science will increase by leaps and bounds now that it no longer has to defend itself politically.

The average intelligence of the human gene pool will increase.
Remeber that fokes the question is would it help that factor has been eliminated the Question at hand is it Moral to kill people in the name of Man-Kind

The question is phrase in such a way you get riled up over the idea of people killing each other JUST Because they are Fundmentlist or Christian or Jewish or Pagan or whatever

Thats not the question

The question basicly boils down to, Is it moral to "Cull" the popluation of its negative eliments
To use a Comparsion sort of a Ben Gessent sitation written large(As Dune I'm not sure how to spell thier title)
However we are not trying to breed a Maulidub we are trying to breed a race of them, not prophets, but good, hard working and intellgent people



You people are misunderstand the question and lettting your emoitions get away from yourself

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I have a virus in the fridge next to last night's leftovers, after infection it becomes active in conjunction with certain emotional and brainwave responses. It makes you poop your pants everytime you spout off at the mouth on religious beliefs. Believe as you wish quietly, you don't soil your linens, get mouthy, dung ahoy!
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Frank Hipper wrote:I have a virus in the fridge next to last night's leftovers, after infection it becomes active in conjunction with certain emotional and brainwave responses. It makes you poop your pants everytime you spout off at the mouth on religious beliefs. Believe as you wish quietly, you don't soil your linens, get mouthy, dung ahoy!
Technically stating a lack of belief in any god would be a religous belief (a lack of belief in any god, but you believe that tought)
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