Gundam Wing vs. Evangelion vs. ST vs. SW

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2002-11-09 02:17am

Ok, ok, sorry for the long topic, but every forum deserves an thread like this. For those of you who don't know, Gundams are basically big mechas. Evas, however, are giant biological beings piloted by humans. Their strength lies in their AT-Field, which is kinda like a force field that can withstand a lot of damnage. So, the question is, in a FFA, which of these would win? Let's assume that all sides are limited to using ground assets.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-09 02:30am

Uh, whats an FFA?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-11-09 02:35am

Free-for-all

I think we can all agree that the Gundams and ST's are fucked.

And, the most powerful AT field cannot withstand a DBZ.

Dum dum dum da da dum dum da dum...dum dum dum dum da dum da da dum...

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-09 02:48am

Ah thanks. If each side can bring up their most powerful ground assets then I think maybe Eva. Though I don't know that much about SW ground units. Cyril, can a ground unit do that?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-09 02:52am

I think there was a gigawatt-range limit to AT field strength. However, that's excluding the possibility of the Evas doing some weird, Third Impact-style thingy with their AT fields.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-11-09 02:52am

I forgot the 'limited to ground assets' part.

Still, though, a half-dozen AT-AT's will pump out a shitload of damage.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-09 03:07am

Shinova wrote:I think there was a gigawatt-range limit to AT field strength. However, that's excluding the possibility of the Evas doing some weird, Third Impact-style thingy with their AT fields.

Evas are unpredictable and hard to gauge in their effects in a battle. At their most powerful(though this could be extremely dangerous even to themselves) I think they could stop most everything in this scenario.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-11-09 03:15am

I've watched up the episode where Shinji gets liquidized. No spoilers, plz.

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-11-09 03:43am

I'm inclined to favor Evas - on the other hand Ramiel's AT field was penatrated by 180 Gigawatt positron beam, and SW weaponry is in that range - anyone have numbers for the firepower of an AT-AT?

On the other hand, if we're talking ground forces only, then even if the empire can penetarte AT fields, the evas superior maneuverability will probably still let the evas win. Asuka will probably play hopscotch on the heads of the walkers.

Oh, and for Cyril, in episode 23 thmmmphtffmmmreidiesmmmph.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-11-09 03:51am

Oh, and for Cyril, in episode 23 thmmmphtffmmmreidiesmmmph.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE THUNDEROUS INTONATIONS OF THE IMPERIAL MARCH! LA LA LA LA LA LA LA!

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-09 04:14am

data_link wrote:I'm inclined to favor Evas - on the other hand Ramiel's AT field was penatrated by 180 Gigawatt positron beam, and SW weaponry is in that range - anyone have numbers for the firepower of an AT-AT?

On the other hand, if we're talking ground forces only, then even if the empire can penetarte AT fields, the evas superior maneuverability will probably still let the evas win. Asuka will probably play hopscotch on the heads of the walkers.

Oh, and for Cyril, in episode 23 thmmmphtffmmmreidiesmmmph.

After it had its AT field neutralized. I don't remember if that happened in this case though. And the Evas seem to be better fighters so I don't think you can base the strength on the Angels. I wonder what weapons the Evas can use those that will help fight the Empire.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2002-11-09 04:59am

I don't think any solid numbers for AT-ATs' big guns on full power exist, but considering the fact that E-Webs are suppose to be able to shoot down starfighters with sustained fire, they could probably provide the amount of firepower to equate to a few kilotons in short order. Still, the EVA's speed and agility would allow them to do massive amount damage to their slower opponents... well, as long as they can avoid getting their umbibical cables cut.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-09 05:11am

Lord of the Farce wrote:I don't think any solid numbers for AT-ATs' big guns on full power exist, but considering the fact that E-Webs are suppose to be able to shoot down starfighters with sustained fire, they could probably provide the amount of firepower to equate to a few kilotons in short order. Still, the EVA's speed and agility would allow them to do massive amount damage to their slower opponents... well, as long as they can avoid getting their umbibical cables cut.

Ach. This is why the time is important. Is this before or after Eva1's "meal?" And what kind of weapons do they have access to?

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2002-11-09 07:36am

Death Star= teh win!

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2002-11-09 08:21am

Devil Gundam = WIN

Turn -series Gundam = WIN

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2002-11-09 09:41am

Gah, never mind about the Death Star, I didn't see the ground forces only restriction.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-11-09 10:23am

Star Destroyer enters orbit while the other three fight like mad...and boom one BDZ later...Thrawn is enjoying crumpets and tea.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-11-09 10:25am

And oh wait gotta consider Trek's ...snicker...ships...okay.

20 seconds after BDZing the planet, a lone commander in the at the fire control of a MTL goes a little crazy.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-09 11:44am

Ghost Rider wrote:Star Destroyer enters orbit while the other three fight like mad...and boom one BDZ later...Thrawn is enjoying crumpets and tea.

Ground assets. Remember ground assets.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-11-09 11:52am

Okay...ummm...well then what are they limited by?

Time or material?

That would be the true determinant.

Because Gundam shows huge potential, but so does the Empire...while EVA and ST have no chance whatsoever.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-11-09 02:20pm

Not true. Depending on the EVA and the pilot, Evangelion actually stands a chance. EVA-01 can operate indefinately, and berserker EVA-01 is ridiculously overpowered.

Devil Gundam, on the other hand, can regenerate its parts again and again. I always thought that was unrealistic, even by Gundam standards. The Empire, short of planetary bombardment melting the battlefield uniformly, will have a very hard time keeping the Devil Gundam dead. Not to mention the Gundam heads popping out of ground.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2002-11-09 02:44pm

I think a large phaser array would be able to penetrate an AT field.

But, failing that, a multi-gigaton (which is far above and beyond those 'positron rifles' gigawatt range) turbolaser will surely fix every other combatant.

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-11-09 03:19pm

Devil Gundam was from G Gunadam, not Gundam Wing. The two are entirely different series.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-09 03:40pm

Well is the Empire being True to Form?

IE Bringing Guns to a Knife Fight and only attacking with a 4 to 1 or greater Ratio?

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-11-09 03:43pm

Sorry. Misread the topic. Well, D-Hell Custom's stealth will make it extremely difficult to co-ordinate attacks against it, so it's useful as support, dashing in and out of engagements and generally harassing everything. H-arms Custom can rain missiles onto the battlefield, but after a while it'll runout of ammo and be a liablilty. Wing Zero's beam cannon can take out most of the Imperial ground forces, excepting perhaps the AT-ATs. Not sure how the AT fields will hold up against the cannon, though. Sandrock's Cross Crusher attack may be able to disable the AT-ATs, as can the Nataku's arms. It'll be a toss-up between Gundam Wing and Evangelion, unless orbital bombardment is allowed in this scenario.

Needless to say, Star Trek is obliterated within a minute of the battle's start.

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