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School defends slavery booklet
Critic says text is 'window dressing'

By T. KEUNG HUI, Staff Writer

Students at one of the area's largest Christian schools are reading a controversial booklet that critics say whitewashes Southern slavery with its view that slaves lived "a life of plenty, of simple pleasures."

Leaders at Cary Christian School say they are not condoning slavery by using "Southern Slavery, As It Was," a booklet that attempts to provide a biblical justification for slavery and asserts that slaves weren't treated as badly as people think.

Principal Larry Stephenson said the school is only exposing students to different ideas, such as how the South justified slavery. He said the booklet is used because it is hard to find writings that are both sympathetic to the South and explore what the Bible says about slavery.

"You can have two different sides, a Northern perspective and a Southern perspective," he said.

The booklet isn't the only connection its two co-authors have with the school.

One of the authors, Douglas Wilson, a pastor in Moscow, Idaho, wrote a book on classical education upon which the school bases its philosophy. Wilson's Association of Classical and Christian Schools accredited Cary Christian, and he is scheduled to speak at the school's graduation in May.

Some school leaders, including Stephenson, founded Christ Church in Cary, which is affiliated with Wilson's Idaho church.

The booklet's other author, Steve Wilkins, is a member of the board of directors of the Alabama-based League of the South. That is classified as a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center, an Alabama-based civil rights group.

"Doug Wilson and Steve Wilkins have essentially constructed the ruling theology of the neo-Confederate movement," said Mark Potok, editor of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Report.

Potok said people who argue that the South should secede again have latched onto the writings of Wilson and Wilkins, which portray the Confederacy as the last true Christian civilization.

At a time when a number of Triangle Christian schools have lost enrollment and even closed, Cary Christian has seen rapid growth since it opened in 1996.

The school has 623 students in kindergarten through 12th grade. With a relatively low tuition -- up to $5,000 -- it has attracted families from 55 churches. At least one parent must be a regular attendee of a church.

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Stephenson said the school's growth is based on parental desire for a classical education founded on the basics of phonics, grammar, logic and rhetoric. Students read many classics, such as the writings of Plato and Socrates.

"As a classical Christian school, we think it's important for our students to be able to think and not be slanted to a particular position," Stephenson said. "We want them to think for themselves."

Until two years ago, Stephenson said, middle school students also had read excerpts from "Southern Slavery." He said the booklet was a counterpoint to "Uncle Tom's Cabin," which he said portrayed all Southern whites as treating their slaves badly.

Once the Civil War was no longer taught in middle school, Stephenson said, Cary Christian stopped using the booklet in those grades.

But the 43-page booklet is still read in its entirety by ninth-graders when they study the Civil War. Stephenson said the booklet can help students formulate arguments when taking the pro-Southern side in debates.

"A student may be assigned an opinion they may not agree with, so they will understand both sides," Stephenson said.

Angela Kennedy, whose daughters have attended Cary Christian since 1996, said all the booklet does is help students learn about both sides so that they have a basis to form their own opinions. She pointed out that the students also read Abraham Lincoln's speeches.

"They really do get both sides of the story," Kennedy said. "In public schools, all they get is one side of the story. That's not education. That's indoctrination."

Stephenson said the booklet is discussed for two days. Even as they read the booklet, he said, students are told slavery was wrong.

"Slavery is wrong," Stephenson said. "That's not debatable about slavery. The South was wrong about the slave trade."

Parent's support

Marcus Ranch, who has three daughters at Cary Christian, said he has no problem with the school using the booklet. He said it offers an accurate portrayal that is overlooked of how many slaves were treated kindly by their owners.

"That book is fine," Ranch said. "It does a good job with that particular perspective."

But Potok questioned how the school can use a booklet that asserts that slavery "was a relationship based upon mutual affection and confidence."

"What these men have written is an apology for slavery," he said. "They're putting window dressing on an abhorrent institution."

Potok also blasted the booklet, which was published in 1996, for plagiarizing a previous work. The booklet has received criticism from a number of historians.

Wilson declined to comment and referred questions to his assistant, Mike Lawyer. Lawyer said the booklet has been pulled from publication because of faulty footnotes and citation errors.

Lawyer said he thinks few schools use the booklet, which is published by a company owned by Wilson's Idaho church.

But Lawyer said the authors stand by their central belief that the Civil War didn't have to happen and that slavery would have ended on its own.

"The Southern Poverty Law Center is just trying to make money out of this," Lawyer said. "The Southern Poverty Law Center is totally off base to think in any way that the book is neo-Confederate."

But the use of the booklet is leaving some area pastors concerned that it could promote intolerance.

"If there's any attempt to divide us, it's totally un-Christian," said Richard Dial, pastor of Cary Church of God.

Mike Woods, administrator of Wake Christian Academy, said he couldn't see his school using "Southern Slavery, As it Was," especially with younger students.

"It's so easy for some of them to take something they read and assume you're in favor of it," he said.
'SOUTHERN SLAVERY, AS IT WAS'

Here are some excerpts from the booklet:

* "To say the least, it is strange that the thing the Bible condemns (slave-trading) brings very little opprobrium upon the North, yet that which the Bible allows (slave-ownership) has brought down all manner of condemnation upon the South." (page 22)

* "As we have already mentioned, the 'peculiar institution' of slavery was not perfect or sinless, but the reality was a far cry from the horrific descriptions given to us in modern histories." (page 22)

* "Slavery as it existed in the South was not an adversarial relationship with pervasive racial animosity. Because of its dominantly patriarchal character, it was a relationship based upon mutual affection and confidence." (page 24)

* "There has never been a multi-racial society which has existed with such mutual intimacy and harmony in the history of the world." (page 24)

* "Slave life was to them a life of plenty, of simple pleasures, of food, clothes, and good medical care." (page 25)

* "But many Southern blacks supported the South because of long established bonds of affection and trust that had been forged over generations with their white masters and friends." (page 27)

* "Nearly every slave in the South enjoyed a higher standard of living than the poor whites of the South -- and had a much easier existence." (page 30)
Taken from the North Carolina Newsobserver

It's hard to imagine this really happened, but then I've never been to the southern states. Is this indicative of a certain mindset?
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Well, people who get infected with Anthrax are ususally treated immediately, and the hospitals give you free food too... :roll:

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I wonder... do they have books or lectures advocating atheism as a counterpoint to christianity, they seem so hell bent making sure that their students understand both sides after all.

BTW it would be interresting to see how this would be recived at a fundie forum, anyone know a good candidate?
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Yes, there is a certain percentage of people in Dixie who think the Confederacy was in the right, that slavery wasn't so bad and everything would have been fine if the diabolical Abe Lincoln had left them alone. Bullshit, to be sure, but people in this region also fall for televangelists and creationism, too.
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And all this bullshit somehow makes up for the fact that human beings like you and I were considered and treated like property.
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Sir Sirius wrote:I wonder... do they have books or lectures advocating atheism as a counterpoint to christianity, they seem so hell bent making sure that their students understand both sides after all.

BTW it would be interresting to see how this would be recived at a fundie forum, anyone know a good candidate?
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'SOUTHERN SLAVERY, AS IT WAS'

Here are some excerpts from the booklet:

* "To say the least, it is strange that the thing the Bible condemns (slave-trading) brings very little opprobrium upon the North, yet that which the Bible allows (slave-ownership) has brought down all manner of condemnation upon the South." (page 22)
Ha! Typical slavery-apologist handwaving. The North only put up with it to keep Southern goold ol' boys from splitting the fucking country in half. The Southern states were the ones who bitched and whined their way into the 3/5ths Compromise, the Fugitive Slave Law, the Dred Scott desicion, and numerous other slavery-upholding acts. BTW, the slave trade was actually practiced in very few states that could be considered Northern: Delaware, Maryland, and West Virginia to name the most northern among them. Everything farther north was already antislavery by the time of the Civil War.
* "As we have already mentioned, the 'peculiar institution' of slavery was not perfect or sinless, but the reality was a far cry from the horrific descriptions given to us in modern histories." (page 22)
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* "Slavery as it existed in the South was not an adversarial relationship with pervasive racial animosity. Because of its dominantly patriarchal character, it was a relationship based upon mutual affection and confidence." (page 24)
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* "There has never been a multi-racial society which has existed with such mutual intimacy and harmony in the history of the world." (page 24)
I suppose modern-day America just isn't as harmonious as slave-day, is it?

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* "But many Southern blacks supported the South because of long established bonds of affection and trust that had been forged over generations with their white masters and friends." (page 27)
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* "Nearly every slave in the South enjoyed a higher standard of living than the poor whites of the South -- and had a much easier existence." (page 30)
Sadly, this is almost true. Yeoman farmers in antebellum South had lives almost as difficult as any slave thanks to the dominance of the plantation owners.
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The lunatic fringe of Christianity is definately trying to pull everybody else into its downward spiral back into the good ol' Dark Ages. The more literally they take the Bible, the more they realize that it tells them that Oppressing ____people is fine and slavery is A-OK and so on down the list until raped women are either murdered for not being virgins or forced to marry the man who raped them. They're just sliding down the slippery slope.
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"You can have two different sides, a Northern perspective and a Southern perspective," he said.
Should simply be rewritten as:
"You can have two different sides, the correct perspective and a Southern perspective," he said.
Also sorry guys but the reason there aren't many books sympathetic to the Confedeacy is because there wasn't much to be sympathetic about - fucking slave holders trying to defend their way of life who now are being cloaked in a states right argument because no one wants to be on the wrong side or be the bad guys.

Perhaps in a hundred years you may even find Germans trying to white wash the Nazi era as well.
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The Catholic Church has been whitewashing the Crusades and Inquisitions for centuries; why should this be any different? Also look at the way Cowboys vs Indians was always portrayed as savage screaming bloodthirsty fanatics vs Decent Civilized White Men until quite recently.
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Great. The Fundies want to spin slavery as a good thing then. Is this not an indication of what plans they have for unbelieving heretics, gays, blacks, etc?

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* "Slave life was to them a life of plenty, of simple pleasures, of food, clothes, and good medical care."
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I've found that there are many Confederate supporters on the Protest Warrior boards. None of them have specifically tried to whitewash slavery as yet, though; they just either dodge the issue or play the tu quoque game with it and the slave states that stayed in the Union.
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If only Radical Reconstruction had been allowed to triumph....
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Christ. This is sick, just sick. How the hell are the federal courts not all over this like a rash?
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Lord Zentei wrote:Christ. This is sick, just sick. How the hell are the federal courts not all over this like a rash?
It's probably not an accredited school. Hopefully.
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"Slave life was to them a life of plenty, of simple pleasures, of food, clothes, and good medical care."
I guess they forgot to mention things like how George Washington spent as little as 1 dollar a year on his slaves, yet he was ridiculously wealthy. The cheap bastard.

They always hail Lincoln as some heretic (the south) or some savior (north). He really didn't do jack. He freed the slaves....in the south...via the EP, which really didn't do much. At the same time, he kept the ones in the north in bondage. He didn't even want to end slavery, like most northerners.

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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:If only Radical Reconstruction had been allowed to triumph....
We might still have occupation troops in the South to keep them down.
IMHO what actually happened (bad as it was) was better than putting Thaddeus Stevens or Charles Sumner in charge.

An improvement would have been JW Booth getting run over by a horse on his way to Ford's Theatre.
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Boyish-Tigerlilly wrote:I guess they forgot to mention things like how George Washington spent as little as 1 dollar a year on his slaves, yet he was ridiculously wealthy. The cheap bastard.

They always hail Lincoln as some heretic (the south) or some savior (north). He really didn't do jack. He freed the slaves....in the south...via the EP, which really didn't do much. At the same time, he kept the ones in the north in bondage. He didn't even want to end slavery, like most northerners.

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Nonetheless, the EP was crucial to freeing the slaves. The guy on top gets all the praise and all the flak.
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Bloody hell.... I live in Cary!
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"Slave life was to them a life of plenty, of simple pleasures, of food, clothes, and good medical care."
Even if this statement was 100% true and typical of slave life throughout the antebellum South, it makes no difference whatsoever —chattel slavery is fundamentally immoral and there is no argument which can justify keeping people as property and exploiting their labours entirely for the benefit of an elite few. The "peculiar institution" isn't justifiable by any legitimate argument no matter how far anybody tries to twist logic in its service.
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Glocksman wrote:
We might still have occupation troops in the South to keep them down.
IMHO what actually happened (bad as it was) was better than putting Thaddeus Stevens or Charles Sumner in charge.
Sorry, no. Thaddeus Steves might have been a fanatic, but his goals were morally correct. Traitors should be hung, and people who own other people should face terrible punishments. The roads from Washington D.C. to Richmond should have been lined with the bodies of executed rebel soldiers, dangling from the nooses upon which they were hung. Every single person who took up arms against the Federal Government should have paid for that decision with their life. Likewise, all suppliers and enablers of the confederate army should have also faced the death penalty.

Resistance to the changes in the laws--including the enfranchisement of blacks--should have been met with fire and blood. A state should have been carved out of the deep south for freed slaves to guarantee them representation in Congress no matter what, and we should have admitted Haiti as a state of the union when they appealed to President Grant for admission during his term in office to further solidify this trend.

The property of slave owners should have been entirely confiscated and given over to blacks, along with their wealth, no matter how few slaves an individual had owned nor even if they had sold them before the end; if they had ever once owned slaves they should have had all their property except for the clothes on their backs stripped from them and it should have been turned over to the freed slaves.

During the period of military occupation, a special tax should have been levied on white southerners to pay for the education of the black population. White schools in the south, likewise, should have been taken over by the federal government so that the indoctrination of children into the defunct "southern virtues" would have been prevented.

All of that, and more, should have been combined with the act of federal investment--paid for primarily by heavy taxes on the south due to the special military situation there--to build up large-scale industry in that area, thereby preventing agrarian conditions from prevailing for another seventy-five years which simply prolonged the outdated, fundamentalist, and racist viewpoints that held such a grip over that region.

As a northerner, and proudly Irish (that we fought so well for such a just cause), I can say that the collective fault of the north in regard to slave comes down to a single issue: We did not push through the programme of radical reconstruction at point of bayonet. That alone I would apologize for, and nothing else.
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