I've always wanted a ship like the Swordfish II...

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-12-09 05:09am

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Inspired rather loosely by a 'scout glider' design posted at Subspace Comms Network and by pictures of Everyone's Favorite Space Cowboy's Lil Red Speedboat. Yes, the main gun is mounted essentially exactly the same way Spike has his...

moku · Post by **moku** » 2004-12-09 05:20am

Nice! And now 3D?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-12-09 05:20am

Has Einy ever done any of his ships 3D?

You should know better than that by now.

moku · Post by **moku** » 2004-12-09 06:24am

Not by now... =\

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2004-12-09 03:50pm

You and your abundance of free time!! CURSES!

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-12-09 03:55pm

moku wrote:Not by now... =\

I have tried 3-views by eyeball, but without even a simple CAD program it's HARD!

Ah, at least I got a better reception here than at SCN. One said it was hideous, and another guy wanted to haul it off to the Planet Fuuglii Junkyard!

At least Luke Skywalker would just come out and say how he feels about someone's starship...

Tasoth wrote:You and your abundance of free time!! CURSES!

Actually this ship was done in about eight hours over the course of a coupla days. I'm not quite done with it...

I have also decided it shall be a Star Wars ship. It's got it all: sleek yet industrial looking, big engines and guns, the '70s styling, and a hyperdrive that can keep up with the Millenium Falcon without looking like it almost lost to an ISD.

I think I'll make its backstory an experiment on how small one can design a fighter around a small hypermatter core...

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2004-12-09 05:20pm

Nice ship but may I suggest shortening the forward gun by at least half? It is too long or are you trying to tell us something?

Post by **Kuja** » 2004-12-09 05:23pm

Cool fighter, dude.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-12-09 05:38pm

Enigma wrote:Nice ship but may I suggest shortening the forward gun by at least half? It is too long or are you trying to tell us something?

Do you mean like he's ignorant of the concept of barrel erosion? I'm assuming though, on the basis that it has a muzzle break that its a projectile weapon.

Psycho Smiley · Post by **Psycho Smiley** » 2004-12-09 05:58pm

I like it. Smack those SCN people.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-12-09 09:38pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Enigma wrote:Nice ship but may I suggest shortening the forward gun by at least half? It is too long or are you trying to tell us something?
Do you mean like he's ignorant of the concept of barrel erosion? I'm assuming though, on the basis that it has a muzzle break that its a projectile weapon.

It's a heavy duty laser cannon. I've seen them occasionally on blasters, usually labeled as flash suppressors. I may redesign it...

moku · Post by **moku** » 2004-12-10 12:38am

I would agree that the main blasters/guns should be shortened. Perhaps not by half, but at least to 3/4 of now?

Kenny_10_Bellys · Post by **Kenny_10_Bellys** » 2004-12-10 11:26am

See, this is what you get when you have a gay guy design your ships for you. The 'extension of my manhood' gunship.

I think maybe you should mount the ubercannon either above or below the main body of the ship, so it basically looks lie a ship welded to the top of a big gun. Maybe not shorten the barrel, but mount the gun further back on the dorsal or ventral surface, and then it wont jutt out so much and make it look unbalanced. It's also a bit busy right now, I can see why the Trek guys didn't take to it too much as they are fond of their clean lines and crap-free surfaces. SW fans like stuff that has bits dangling everywhere and surfaces covered in boxes. Tone down the antennae and maybe the swept farings on the wingtips a little, and for once in your life go with a colour other than red. With it a more Star Wars colour, and slightly cleaner lines, it could be a heavy hitting anti-capital ship weapon, a flying 'big gun'. Just my opinion, of course, feel free to tell me to cram it.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2004-12-10 11:57am

Einy I tend to hide the guns either inside or under body (when looked from above), since that way the isn't an easy target hit in front of the craft and I have agree with kenny on the color only Jedi or diplomat craft are mostly red in SW (exept for the A-wing). (look at Rebells figthers, they tend to different shades of grey all of them). but otherwise the basic shape is good.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-12-10 04:34pm

Kenny_10_Bellys wrote:See, this is what you get when you have a gay guy design your ships for you. The 'extension of my manhood' gunship.

I think maybe you should mount the ubercannon either above or below the main body of the ship, so it basically looks lie a ship welded to the top of a big gun. Maybe not shorten the barrel, but mount the gun further back on the dorsal or ventral surface, and then it wont jutt out so much and make it look unbalanced. It's also a bit busy right now, I can see why the Trek guys didn't take to it too much as they are fond of their clean lines and crap-free surfaces. SW fans like stuff that has bits dangling everywhere and surfaces covered in boxes. Tone down the antennae and maybe the swept farings on the wingtips a little, and for once in your life go with a colour other than red. With it a more Star Wars colour, and slightly cleaner lines, it could be a heavy hitting anti-capital ship weapon, a flying 'big gun'. Just my opinion, of course, feel free to tell me to cram it.

First, the gun is mounted to a turret on the ventral surface a la Spike Spiegel's ball-turret gun.

Second, I shall take up your suggestion about using a different color and toning down the spikes and antennas a bit.

Third, there's no way in HELL you'll get me to tell you to stuff it

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-12-10 07:14pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote: It's a heavy duty laser cannon. I've seen them occasionally on blasters, usually labeled as flash suppressors. I may redesign it...

Its location defies logic as a flash suppressor, since if there was a flash to suppress it would then be directing it upward... right into the pilots line of sight.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-12-10 10:17pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote: It's a heavy duty laser cannon. I've seen them occasionally on blasters, usually labeled as flash suppressors. I may redesign it...
Its location defies logic as a flash suppressor, since if there was a flash to suppress it would then be directing it upward... right into the pilots line of sight.

Fixed. Redesigned the FS from a cross pattern to an X pattern.

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Thank you guys for the help!

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-12-10 10:21pm

I'm also taking suggestions as to the name of this fighter as well.

I'm thinking of adding proton torpedo launcher pods under the wings just outboard of the forward engines...

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2004-12-10 11:21pm

Looks like its swooping in to kill something, so I say Peregrine.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-12-11 12:09am

Tasoth wrote:Looks like its swooping in to kill something, so I say Peregrine.

I'm not too keen on that after what Trek did to that ship name.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-12-11 12:12am

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
moku wrote:Not by now... =\
I have tried 3-views by eyeball, but without even a simple CAD program it's HARD!

I could look into a few free CAD programs that you might be able to get free. There are a number of basic ones out there that might work.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-12-11 12:16am

Stormbringer wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
moku wrote:Not by now... =\
I have tried 3-views by eyeball, but without even a simple CAD program it's HARD!
I could look into a few free CAD programs that you might be able to get free. There are a number of basic ones out there that might work.

Excellent; thank you!

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2004-12-11 12:31am

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Tasoth wrote:Looks like its swooping in to kill something, so I say Peregrine.
I'm not too keen on that after what Trek did to that ship name.

Your's is better. You could always call it a Kingfisher or some form of diving bird.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-12-11 12:39am

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote: I have tried 3-views by eyeball, but without even a simple CAD program it's HARD!
I could look into a few free CAD programs that you might be able to get free. There are a number of basic ones out there that might work.
Excellent; thank you!

No problem, I'll look into what's out there for download. With the exception of AutoCAD most programs do some pretty good demo pimpage.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2004-12-11 03:39am

Might I suggest that instead of using a big ass cannon of doom, that you go with smaller turrets with a large FOV? No offense, but big cannons often don't last very long as they'd be the first thing to be fired upon. If you're dead set on a large cannon, might I suggest that you have it recessed into the hull? You can have it fire off-axis (ala Minbari) if you like, for compensation.