Star Destroyer crew complement

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-12-11 12:14am

With all the advanced computers, automations and droids available in the Star Wars galaxy why do Star Destroyers need so many crews (about 37500 IIRC) ?

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-12-11 12:26am

humans are unpredictable. one computer can predict another.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-12-11 12:30am

The Shadow wrote:With all the advanced computers, automations and droids available in the Star Wars galaxy why do Star Destroyers need so many crews (about 37500 IIRC) ?

A modern day CVN has over a thousand crew members. A SD with a crew of 37 thousand is a bargin. Goes to show you how much all those droids actually do.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-12-11 12:31am

Enforcer Talen wrote:humans are unpredictable. one computer can predict another.

Huh? Do you mean as far as combat manuevers and tactics or do you also mean in regards to overall management of the ship's systems? Because that's what I think The Shadow is talking about, why the ship needs so many crew members to run the ship.

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2004-12-11 12:48am

Knife wrote:
The Shadow wrote:With all the advanced computers, automations and droids available in the Star Wars galaxy why do Star Destroyers need so many crews (about 37500 IIRC) ?
A modern day CVN has over a thousand crew members. A SD with a crew of 37 thousand is a bargin. Goes to show you how much all those droids actually do.

A modern Nimitz-class CVN has a crew knocking on FIVE thousand including the air group

So 37,000+ isn't that unrealistic for a 1600 metre durasteel monster

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-12-11 12:52am

Burak Gazan wrote:

A modern Nimitz-class CVN has a crew knocking on FIVE thousand including the air group So 37,000+ isn't that unrealistic for a 1600 metre durasteel monster

I was trying to dismiss the air group. Still, you're right, the basic crew is in excess of a thousand.

vakundok · Post by **vakundok** » 2004-12-11 06:09am

As I know the air group is around 2,000, the other nearly 4,000 is for the ship. However, the 37,500 seems to be really high, since the droids can do nearly anything a human could and humans without computers can do basicly nothing ... (Maybe they are solely there to restart systems after an ion hit

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Who says that a computer is predictable has surely not worked with Windows for years!

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2004-12-11 06:51am

But Star Destroyers carry enough stormtroopers to enable it to pacify an entire (small) star system by itself....anyone have a precise figure?

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-12-11 07:27am

kheegan wrote:But Star Destroyers carry enough stormtroopers to enable it to pacify an entire (small) star system by itself....anyone have a precise figure?

9700

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-12-11 08:50am

That little for a system? I don't think that would even be enough for a planet.

SCVN 2812 · Post by **SCVN 2812** » 2004-12-11 10:20am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:That little for a system? I don't think that would even be enough for a planet.

That's where confining your assault to a key strategic area like say, the capital, AT-STs and AT-ATs and fire support from TIE Fighters, Bombers and the mothership come in. That would be sufficient to take a planet on the ass end of space like Tattooine with very few losses.

And in the case of planets where that's not really enough, that's what the other 24,999 ISDs are for.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-12-11 11:01am

SCVN 2812 wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:That little for a system? I don't think that would even be enough for a planet.
That's where confining your assault to a key strategic area like say, the capital, AT-STs and AT-ATs and fire support from TIE Fighters, Bombers and the mothership come in. That would be sufficient to take a planet on the ass end of space like Tattooine with very few losses.

And in the case of planets where that's not really enough, that's what the other 24,999 ISDs are for.

you think that there are only 25000 Star Destroyers in the Imperial Navy?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-12-11 11:43am

That is the official low-end number. Everything else is speculation.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2004-12-11 12:17pm

Also, remember.. after the Dark Fleet fiasco, the galaxy stopped trying to make everything super-automated. After losing a whole fleet that way, who could blame them?

Did anyone discuss the possibility that the 25,000 ISDs may have been just the total number of Star Destroyers available for task forces? I'm sure a lot of Star Destroyers could not be withdrawn from their assigned sector fleets, as Zahn pointed out in the HOTD, how much of the Empire's fleet was just tied up enforcing order and stability.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-12-11 05:17pm

Of course. However, as I just said, that is our speculation only.

SCVN 2812 · Post by **SCVN 2812** » 2004-12-11 09:31pm

Lord Pounder wrote:
SCVN 2812 wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:That little for a system? I don't think that would even be enough for a planet.
That's where confining your assault to a key strategic area like say, the capital, AT-STs and AT-ATs and fire support from TIE Fighters, Bombers and the mothership come in. That would be sufficient to take a planet on the ass end of space like Tattooine with very few losses.

And in the case of planets where that's not really enough, that's what the other 24,999 ISDs are for.
you think that there are only 25000 Star Destroyers in the Imperial Navy?

Oh piss off, I'm not going to waste my time hunting for one of the 100k+ ISD figure threads when I can use an official number right off the top of my head without having to answer 10 page debate inciting questions about where I got the number.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2004-12-12 07:41am

Knife wrote:
Burak Gazan wrote:

A modern Nimitz-class CVN has a crew knocking on FIVE thousand including the air group So 37,000+ isn't that unrealistic for a 1600 metre durasteel monster
I was trying to dismiss the air group. Still, you're right, the basic crew is in excess of a thousand.

And don't forget that the ISDs are actually meant to go mano a mano with other capital ships, whereas CVNs are meant not really designed for actual combat in itself, so it makes sense that ISDs have greater manpower redundancy, especially in the light of the existence of ion cannons.

Darth Bowser · Post by **Darth Bowser** » 2004-12-12 11:41am

Wouldn't it be better to compare it to say.. what the modern day battleship average complement was?

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2004-12-12 11:50am

Darth Bowser wrote:Wouldn't it be better to compare it to say.. what the modern day battleship average complement was?

Well, there are no modern battleships today, but taking one of the last to be be decommissioned, say, the USS Missouri, she had a complement of 1,921 crew and was 271 meters long.

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2004-12-12 12:16pm

among 9700 stormtroopers, there are thousands of regional army members, including AT-AT, AT-ST's gunners and drivers and such shit. also, there most be a damn lot of gunners and engineers on such a ship, TIE-pilots and all theirs crews and and and...

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2004-12-12 02:45pm

Lex wrote:among 9700 stormtroopers, there are thousands of regional army members, including AT-AT, AT-ST's gunners and drivers and such shit. also, there most be a damn lot of gunners and engineers on such a ship, TIE-pilots and all theirs crews and and and...

Exactly. You could probably take over 15,000 men away from the 37,000 figure who aren't actual crewmen, which would give you more or less 22,000 actual crew.

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