Leading Atheist Philosopher Concludes God's Real

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-12-11 11:18pm

HemlockGrey wrote:And, to be frank, I would pay money to see a Wong-Durandal tag-team take on the entirety of RR.

*drops sack of cash in HemlockGrey's hands*

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba · Post by **Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba** » 2004-12-11 11:30pm

I bet $10 over paypal that they'll end up trying to hack and vandalize our board in the end.

$50 that we'll all be banned from RR in less than a week.

Place your bets now, gentlemen!

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2004-12-11 11:44pm

If you want to have fun with RR then you ought to post stuff like this and watch their reaction. They'll ban you before they let you argue, so you might as well let them make fools of themselves on their own.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2004-12-12 01:02am

Wicked Pilot, that was really good.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-12-12 01:16am

that was a reptilian animal with a homo sapien skull.... Hell, those were cast,,,,

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-12-12 01:16am

wait, not casts... just plastic

SecondStorm · Post by **SecondStorm** » 2004-12-12 01:37am

Darth Wong wrote:81 years old? More proof that an atheist might think intelligent design makes sense once he becomes old, mentally enfeebled, and senile.

Perhaps he feels Death clammy hands around his heart and decides that he'll take Pascals Wager.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-12-12 01:43am

SecondStorm wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:81 years old? More proof that an atheist might think intelligent design makes sense once he becomes old, mentally enfeebled, and senile.
Perhaps he feels Death clammy hands around his heart and decides that he'll take Pascals Wager.

Always possible (although it's also possible the whole story is just a pure fabrication, like Darwin's mythical deathbed recantation).

It reminds me of the "there are no atheists in foxholes" line. Even if it were true (and Perinquus assures me it's not, and he would know since he was an atheist in a foxhole), it would only indicate that Christianity is more appealing to someone who is under extreme emotional duress, rather than being in a rational state of mind.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2004-12-12 01:50am

Darth Wong wrote:
It reminds me of the "there are no atheists in foxholes" line. Even if it were true (and Perinquus assures me it's not, and he would know since he was an atheist in a foxhole), it would only indicate that Christianity is more appealing to someone who is under extreme emotional duress, rather than being in a rational state of mind.

I thought the "there are no atheists in foxholes" line was an argument against foxholes not atheists?

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2004-12-12 01:55am

So he's slipping into Deism, not a big deal. Someone should email him the article about sugars being found in space and point out in our universe it is pretty damn likely for life to form.

Petrosjko · Post by **Petrosjko** » 2004-12-12 01:57am

I've got an old book laying around that did some fairly deep statistical analysis of WW2, and the 'atheists in the foxholes' topics was one of the matters it covered.

While the random death of war can drive some people to religion, it can also have the opposite effect. The nature of war can cause people to lose faith in the notion of an omnibenevolent god quite easily, because there's no justice, logic, or sense to it.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-12-12 02:00am

Imperial Overlord wrote:So he's slipping into Deism, not a big deal. Someone should email him the article about sugars being found in space and point out in our universe it is pretty damn likely for life to form.

Speaking as a Deist, that doesn't really dissuade. Hell, I found it pretty spiritually invigorating and wonder-provoking, the idea our little existance is teeming with life.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2004-12-12 02:06am

It's hard to dissuade a Deist. It's not like there is an interventionalist god or a ridiculous virgin birth to mock. There's just a "created the universe at the beginning and he's spent all of time on his sofa with a bucket of popcorn watching the whole thing unfold" assertation.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-12-12 02:08am

Imperial Overlord wrote:It's hard to dissuade a Deist. It's not like there is an interventionalist god or a ridiculous virgin birth to mock. There's just a "created the universe at the beginning and he's spent all of time on his sofa with a bucket of popcorn watching the whole thing unfold" assertation.

Creating a universe is the ultimate science experiment.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-12-12 02:55am

Imperial Overlord wrote:It's hard to dissuade a Deist. It's not like there is an interventionalist god or a ridiculous virgin birth to mock. There's just a "created the universe at the beginning and he's spent all of time on his sofa with a bucket of popcorn watching the whole thing unfold" assertation.

Unfortunately, those who crow that this hypothesis is unfalsifiable tend to be ignorant of the fact that it is also completely useless and unnecessary.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-12-12 07:44am

Darth Wong wrote:81 years old? More proof that an atheist might think intelligent design makes sense once he becomes old, mentally enfeebled, and senile.

Bawhahaha!

Behold words of true wisdom.

On a side note, it's not exactly unheard of for those closing in on death to suddenly shift their views favoring "afterlife".

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-12-12 07:47am

There was no one moment of change but a gradual conclusion over recent months for Flew, a spry man who still does not believe in an afterlife.

Expect he doesn't believe in an Afterlife, Walper. For shame, you had to have this pointed out to you by a Christain? Hang your head down low.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-12-12 05:04pm

A deist, huh?

Okay, so he's a deist. I'm waiting for what I'm supposed to be suprised over.

Time until someone says he converted to Christianity in 5...4...3...

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-12-12 05:57pm

I'm just waiting for Fox News to break the story that Darth Wong has converted to Christianity and become the world's foremost proporent of Young-Earth Creationism.

Justforfun000 · Post by **Justforfun000** » 2004-12-12 06:29pm

I'm just waiting for Fox News to break the story that Darth Wong has converted to Christianity and become the world's foremost proporent of Young-Earth Creationism.

Nothing LESS could convince me of the power of brain lobotomy.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2004-12-13 09:56am

HemlockGrey wrote:And, to be frank, I would pay money to see a Wong-Durandal tag-team take on the entirety of RR.

Some of us have been over there for years, cleaning out their Apologetics forum on a regular basis.

While the creationists still crow, the flock is smaller, so there's some good from it.