EU opens door to Turkey

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 2004-12-17 03:45am

The EU has offered to begin membership talks with Turkey next year, with 3 October given as a start date.
EU leaders said the aim of the talks - which could take up to 15 years - would be full membership, but Turkey's entry could not be guaranteed

Bah

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2004-12-17 04:12am

Good news.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-12-17 05:06am

Much as I admire Turkey and their god-dictator Kemal, they've gotta stop the whole "paying imams to proselytize while suppressing Kurds and the Greek Orthodox Church" along with the whole "Northern Cyprus IS TEH WINNAH!" bit.

Murazor · Post by **Murazor** » 2004-12-17 06:56am

Very good news.

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2004-12-17 06:59am

Starting October next year? Could take 15 years? Isn't that a bit long?

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 2004-12-17 07:07am

It needs to be stringent- and it's going to hinge initially on Turkey recognising Cyprus- this will fall through.

Prozac the Robert · Post by **Prozac the Robert** » 2004-12-17 09:39am

It's all part of the long term plan. Before the end of the century we will include everything but the USA and possibly china.

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-12-17 11:17am

Prozac the Robert wrote:It's all part of the long term plan. Before the end of the century we will include everything but the USA and possibly china.

Actually, the EU are the ones being played for suckers: see, while they are busy dicking around trying to get small territorial gains like Turkey, the Russians are secretly preparing to steamroller their way across Europe: The Americans are in on it, and are welcoming the downfall of their economic rival, because the Russians make much worthier adversaries anyway: you know why the Americans are really starting to pull troops out of Europe?

Weep your destruction, Europe, for it is sooner than you think...

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Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-12-17 11:31am

Turkey is small?

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-12-17 11:42am

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Turkey is small?

Compared to "everything but the USA and possibly China", yes.

SecondStorm · Post by **SecondStorm** » 2004-12-17 12:40pm

Ma Deuce wrote:
Prozac the Robert wrote:It's all part of the long term plan. Before the end of the century we will include everything but the USA and possibly china.
Actually, the EU are the ones being played for suckers: see, while they are busy dicking around trying to get small territorial gains like Turkey, the Russians are secretly preparing to steamroller their way across Europe: The Americans are in on it, and are welcoming the downfall of their economic rival, because the Russians make much worthier adversaries anyway: you know why the Americans are really starting to pull troops out of Europe?

Weep your destruction, Europe, for it is sooner than you think... .

Bring it.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2004-12-18 05:18am

Ma Deuce wrote:The Americans are in on it, and are welcoming the downfall of their economic rival, because the Russians make much worthier adversaries anyway: you know why the Americans are really starting to pull troops out of Europe?

Weep your destruction, Europe, for it is sooner than you think... .

I don't think it's that easy to disband the NATO.

Post by **Coyote** » 2004-12-18 05:44pm

Something I wonder about-- EU ministers worry that unbridled Turkish migration will ruin their employment numbers at home, using current events as proof.

But the reason the Turks are migrating to other EU nations is because their economy sucks. Theoretically, if Turkey becomes an EU member, wouldn't their economy improve and the workers more likely to stay home?

But Turkey would be a good addition under any circumstances-- including a non-Christian, non-White country will make the EU seem less like a snooty American country club. Lots of manpower, a large sized Army, and strategic position.

The ethnic strife with the Kurds will be problematic, as well as the border issues... but it can be dealt with. The population of the EU, especailly if Turkey joins, will be large enough to support an all-volunteer army, providing they form a unified military structure. Any bets on when that will happen (remembering full well my own doubts mentioned in another thread!

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Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-12-18 05:53pm

I'm for it, if only to see our conservative leaders get an apoplexy