Hating Pablo Hidalgo

Luzifer's right hand · Post by **Luzifer's right hand** » 2004-12-17 03:34pm

Master of Ossus wrote:Hidalgo is in charge of fan relations, but has done nothing but target and consistently alienate the technical fans. I have no idea how he has managed to keep his job. None.

Maybe these fans are an unimportant minority?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-12-17 04:04pm

Even if they are, his attitude and comments are extremely rude to the fanbase as a whole.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-12-17 06:13pm

I agree with those who say that "hating Pablo" is probably the wrong terminology. I prefer the word "despise"

On a more serious note, he strikes me as someone who thinks it's just hilarious to use his position to poke fun at technically minded fans. I have the feeling that his attitude toward such fans is not so much hatred as the same kind of confusion that a high-school jock experiences when he hears a pair of science guys talking about something: he doesn't understand what they're talking about, he's not really capable of conversing on that level, so he tries to laugh it off by mocking them and getting others to mock them as well.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-12-17 06:31pm

Darth Wong wrote:I agree with those who say that "hating Pablo" is probably the wrong terminology. I prefer the word "despise"

On a more serious note, he strikes me as someone who thinks it's just hilarious to use his position to poke fun at technically minded fans. I have the feeling that his attitude toward such fans is not so much hatred as the same kind of confusion that a high-school jock experiences when he hears a pair of science guys talking about something: he doesn't understand what they're talking about, he's not really capable of conversing on that level, so he tries to laugh it off by mocking them and getting others to mock them as well.

Hey Mike, remember that scene in "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" where the high school jock is stumbling through his history final, then simply stops and yells (his high school) Football RULES! And then the entire auditorium cheers him off the stage?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-12-17 07:28pm

What gets me is that Hidalgo's current vitriolic stance seems somewhat contradictory to his past employment at West End Games. If I recall correctly, he's kind of mocking the exact kind of stuff he used to do, which I think included ship design and profile authoring.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-12-17 09:39pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:What gets me is that Hidalgo's current vitriolic stance seems somewhat contradictory to his past employment at West End Games. If I recall correctly, he's kind of mocking the exact kind of stuff he used to do, which I think included ship design and profile authoring.

Ah, there's the rub. Now that those WEG stats are being corrected, he's being a turd. What does that tell you?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-12-18 01:11am

Yes, Hidalgo's behavior is hardly principled: this guy used to be a SW nerd who had obsessive-compulsively pedantic fan projects of his own, and penned WEG make-shit-up stats.

He's only pissed off at techies because they call his work trash (which it is) and provide an objective means of challenging the decisions on the Ranch.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2004-12-18 11:13am

Reading the old thread here, and the one on the SW.com forums brought back some memories.

I said it before this little cum stain has 'brain envy' plain and simple.

I also loved how all his 'defenders' would jump into the thread with 'it's just a movie!' and my standard response to all of them; 'You don't jump into threads titled 'Who is Jaina going to end up with?', 'Who is the best swordsman?' or 'Is Kyp more powerful than Luke?' and yell 'it's just a movie!' there ... Are you trolling?'

Strangely, I never got a reply from any of them...

Post by **Coyote** » 2004-12-18 07:20pm

So reading these pages of Pablo's, I am left wondering-- if he answers a question with an "in-story" answer that stays within the technical acceptance of canon, then do we accept hius answer as canon as well?

For example: a fan asks why a dying Zam Wesell speaks Huttese. PH explaines that Huttese is very common, was popular even before the Old Rep, and it became the basis for a lot of other trade languages. As Basic became the galactic standard language, Huttese continued in fringe communities and the Outer Rim.

So to the best of my knowledge, this isn't explained anywhere else, so PH is supplying this answer that does not challenge established canon (AFAIK) or wave it off as "she speaks Huttese because the script said so".

So, since he does seem to be giving "good" advice this time, do we accept this into canon?

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-12-18 08:05pm

I'd hazard to say that just because he's done something we don't like in the past doesn't mean he can't be "correct" once in a while.

After all, "even a broken clock is right twice a day" right? ; )

In this particular case I have no idea, I'm just saying.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-12-19 02:49am

Luzifer's right hand wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:Hidalgo is in charge of fan relations, but has done nothing but target and consistently alienate the technical fans. I have no idea how he has managed to keep his job. None.
Maybe these fans are an unimportant minority?

Considering that the poll he started showed that they make up well over a quarter of the fanbase, I doubt it.

Luzifer's right hand · Post by **Luzifer's right hand** » 2004-12-19 12:38pm

Master of Ossus wrote:Considering that the poll he started showed that they make up well over a quarter of the fanbase, I doubt it.

It was just a question.

However I will start to belive in an invisible dragon in my garage before I take an online poll serious.