TIME Names President Bush Person of the Year

Executor32 · Post by **Executor32** » 2004-12-19 11:19am

Oh, goodee.

Linky

Thoughts?

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-12-19 11:21am

They did it for Hitler, they can do it for him

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-12-19 11:25am

Hamel wrote:They did it for Hitler, they can do it for him

Don't forget Khomeni and Stalin...

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-12-19 11:36am

Most polarizing. Well, that's true. Way to reward someone whose primary accomplishment is pissing people off and furthering an agenda of regression.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-12-19 11:45am

Well has I understand it they chose who they think caused the greatest effect and not always the most postive effect. I could be wrong on that.

While I do not like the guy and think his managment of the Iraq war and occupation is criminal (I mean that in every damn sense of the word), has well has having little more than burning hatred and scorn for his "leadership" in the war on Terror.

Of course I think if we lived in a perfect world a certain Security of Defense would get excaltly what he deserves and no it's not a damn medal.

But all that aside, no one can deny Bush has had a major impact on the world and the effects of his Presidentcy will be felt for decades to come.

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2004-12-19 11:47am

Actually, I think this award has put him in stellar company.

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-12-19 11:50am

frigidmagi wrote:Well has I understand it they chose who they think caused the greatest effect and not always the most postive effect. I could be wrong on that.

No, you're quite correct: That's why the likes of Khomeni, Stalin, and Hitler have been selected for "Person of the Year" in the past...

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2004-12-19 12:01pm

The title person of the year is misleading. it should be "Most Influential of the year"

It prevents confusion.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-12-19 12:17pm

And Here's Canada's Person Of The Year

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-12-19 12:46pm

Of course I think if we lived in a perfect world a certain Security of Defense would get excaltly what he deserves and no it's not a damn medal.

Nitpick, Rumsfeld did not get the Presidential Medal of Freedom this time around (it was awarded to Tenet, Bremer, and Franks). Rumsfeld got it in 1977, from Gerald Ford.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-12-19 01:31pm

We still got about 4 years, wait for it.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-12-19 01:38pm

The TIME Person of the Year thing is not for the best person of the year, just the person who's had the most effect on the world. I can see Bush being that person.

Heh, it would have been cool though if they had made it Dick Cheney.

Post by **Coyote** » 2004-12-19 01:39pm

Is anyone really surprised, though? I mean, seriously, the title of "most influential" is more appropriate. Everyone's talking about GWB these days, what he's doing or not, and OBL's time in the sun faded.

I hate to say it, but it's true-- GWB is probably the biggest mover and shaker in the world today, love him or hate him...

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-12-19 01:47pm

frigidmagi wrote:We still got about 4 years, wait for it.

Pretty sure that it is generally not awarded to the same person twice.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2004-12-19 01:53pm

Why not give the award to the American President every year? Realistically, save for a Bin Laden type figure emerging again, America's power is so great that its President can yield far more power than anyone else...

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-12-19 01:56pm

ALI_G wrote:Why not give the award to the American President every year? Realistically, save for a Bin Laden type figure emerging again, America's power is so great that its President can yield far more power than anyone else...

Redundancy. The last time Bush got the award was in 2000, even though he's clearly been the most influential person in the world for each of his years in office.

egyptfrk · Post by **egyptfrk** » 2004-12-19 05:03pm

Shouldn't this really be Carl Rove? I mean him and the other Bush advisors are truly running the show here. Bush is just their figurehead.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-12-19 05:31pm

Karl Rove was indeed considered.

Or better yet, KKKarl Rove, as he is considered on this board.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-12-19 08:20pm

Or better yet, KKKarl Rove, as he is considered on this board.

And with good reason, considering the truly despicable depths to which he has sunk in pursuit of money and personal glory.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-12-19 08:24pm

Joe wrote:Karl Rove was indeed considered.

Or better yet, KKKarl Rove, as he is considered on this board.

No, considered by the local VRWC. A search showed that you dudes were the only ones to use that name.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2004-12-19 09:45pm

Joe wrote:
frigidmagi wrote:We still got about 4 years, wait for it.
Pretty sure that it is generally not awarded to the same person twice.

Didn't Stalin get it three times?

StimNeuro · Post by **StimNeuro** » 2004-12-19 10:25pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
Joe wrote:
frigidmagi wrote:We still got about 4 years, wait for it.
Pretty sure that it is generally not awarded to the same person twice.
Didn't Stalin get it three times?

FDR is the only person to have recieved it 3 times: 1932, 1934 and 1941.
Stalin recieved it twice: 1939 and 1942.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-12-19 10:28pm

Montcalm wrote:And Here's Canada's Person Of The Year

There's an irony about the Canadian edition of Time's person of the year being a victim of the kind of policies aggressively promoted by the American edition of Time's person of the year.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-12-19 10:51pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Montcalm wrote:And Here's Canada's Person Of The Year
There's an irony about the Canadian edition of Time's person of the year being a victim of the kind of policies aggressively promoted by the American edition of Time's person of the year.

Yeah i wonder is he really a victim,a terrorist or is he guilty by association?

Dillon · Post by **Dillon** » 2004-12-19 11:30pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Montcalm wrote:And Here's Canada's Person Of The Year
There's an irony about the Canadian edition of Time's person of the year being a victim of the kind of policies aggressively promoted by the American edition of Time's person of the year.

I thought the exact same thing when I heard about it on the news, earlier. Un-fucking-believable.