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Rumsfeld used a machine to sign letters to war widows

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Yes, good ol' Rummy can't be bothered signing letters of condolence to the families of US soldiers killed in Iraq, so he has his staff use machines to sign the form letters:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4110091.stm
Rumsfeld faces Iraq letters row
Rumsfeld has been criticised for his handling of the Iraq war

US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has pledged to personally sign letters of condolence to the families of American soldiers killed in action.

He spoke shortly after his admission that he had used a machine to sign letters to relatives of more than 1,000 troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Mr Rumsfeld is facing growing criticism from both Democrats and Republicans who are questioning his record in Iraq.

He was given a public grilling from his own troops earlier this month.

During his visit to a US base in Kuwait, American soldiers alleged they had used scrap metal to armour vehicles.

'An insult'

In a statement to the US military newspaper Stars and Stripes, Mr Rumsfeld tacitly admitted that in the past he had not personally signed the letters of condolence.

"While I have not individually signed each one, in the interest of ensuring expeditious contact with grieving family members, I have directed that in the future I sign each letter," Mr Rumsfeld's statement said.

This issue of the secretary of defence not personally signing the letters is just astounding to me... I have no confidence in Rumsfeld
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"I am deeply grateful for the many letters I have received from the families of those who have been killed in the service of our country, and I recognise and honour their personal loss."

Several families of US soldiers killed overseas said that the machine-signed letters reflected a lack of respect for their losses.

"To me it's an insult, not only as someone who lost a loved one but also as someone who served in Iraq," soldier Ivan Medina - whose twin brother Irving was killed in Iraq last summer - told Stars and Stripes.

The row has led to fresh debates among lawmakers over whether Mr Rumsfeld - whose handling of the invasion of Iraq and its aftermath have come under close scrutiny - should step down.

'Great confidence'

The BBC's Michael Buchanan in Washington says senior Republicans have spent the past few days openly questioning President George W Bush's decision to keep Mr Rumsfeld at the Pentagon.

They claim the defence secretary has to answer for a number of major mistakes made in Iraq, our correspondent adds.

Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, a decorated Vietnam war veteran, told CBS's Face the Nation he had "no confidence" in Mr Rumsfeld.

"This issue of the secretary of defence not personally signing the letters is just astounding to me," he said, noting that President Bush did sign such letters himself.

But President Bush's Chief of Staff, Andrew Card, said Mr Rumsfeld had the full support of the White House.

Mr Card told ABC's This Week that Mr Rumsfeld "is doing a spectacular job, and the president has great confidence in him".

Most leading Republicans have said he should stay.
What a fucking ass-clown. As if he couldn't find the time to sign roughly 1000 letters over a period of more than a year at literally a few seconds each.
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yeah, this is your legacy Mr Bush, going to a useless war and getting numbers of our men and women killed for what? Weapons of Mass Destruction, there are none. To free the people, why not free all the people. To remove Saddam, why not castro, or whoever that guy is in North Korea.


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With luck we'll see a party revolt and Rumsfeld will be forced to step down.

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Don't be so quick to assume. I posted a similar thread at the PHPBB message boards, and the apologists are already out with the "Rumsfeld is a very busy man" bullshit.
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I suppose it was too much to hope that Rumself would say something like "Well, don't blame me, the casualties are piling up so fast I just can't keep up!"
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I might add that yesterday General Tommy Franks, the one who led both OEF and OIF, signed more than a thousand of his 'American Soldier' books at the local Books a Million. The whole thing took less than two hours. The man standing in front of me in the line had a photo taken of his son and General Franks last year in Qatar, and despite the 'no personalization, no signing anything other than the book' policyset forth for the event, the General gladly took the photo, wrote something to the man's son, signed it, and thanked him for his son's service. Yeah the book signing tour is for promotion purposes, but at least this guy cares.
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Those who died weren't part of the army that Rumbag wanted, so letters informing their loved ones of their deaths weren't worth his time. Duh people.
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Were the letters always personally signed?
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Darth Wong wrote:Don't be so quick to assume. I posted a similar thread at the PHPBB message boards, and the apologists are already out with the "Rumsfeld is a very busy man" bullshit.
:roll:

You know--I was really hoping to be shocked by that--but I'm not.

1300 casualties since 03/2003 (1024 in combat). 10 seconds per letter...1000 letters...18 months...that's not even 10 minutes a freaking month on average...

...no time indeed.... :roll:
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This mummified cock sucker can find the time to sign the orders that get these kids killed but can't find the time to sign a few letters a week. What an assclown. Of course of none this suprises me. Hell the Repubs in Congress are starting to make noise about having Rumsfeld ousted but Bush in typical strong leader mode has said that he won't do that. Rumsfeld must suck a mean cock.
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Rusmfield is the worst type of leader. While I may have agreed with a few of his decisions, this guy an ass all the way through. He reminds me of the corporate leadership class that fucks up a company and is paid millions to go someplace else while the underlings are given 2 weeks pay. Except when it comes to his employees they often pay with their life or limb.
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Bush will fold.

His cocksuckers will continue to prop up their "decisive, stay-the-course" leader fetish though. It need not have anything to do with reality, just vague impressions created by right-wing media image propoganda.
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Dennis Toy wrote:To free the people, why not free all the people. To remove Saddam, why not castro, or whoever that guy is in North Korea.
Not to defend Bush, but the logic "all or nothing" is rather harsh. That's like saying I shouldn't go out of my way to help a person unless I fully intent to go around helping everyone.
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While this shit is annoying, it really is not that significant - if we called out officials who were at some point in their careers completely indifferent to the public at large, we'd be indicting the entire fucking US government. Rummy is not the Secretary of Defense so he can be a nice guy and look good for the public doing political theater. He's there to be a hatchet man for an agenda dictated by President Bush.
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Notice how the fucker did not even apologize for the fake signatures. Just a terse statement saying something along the lines of "oh ALL RIGHT, I'll start signing the fucking things now."
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Robert Walper wrote:
Not to defend Bush, but the logic "all or nothing" is rather harsh. That's like saying I shouldn't go out of my way to help a person unless I fully intent to go around helping everyone.
Where your capacity is limited, it makes sense to take action where it is most necessary, however. It make sense to maximise the benefit. The plight of the Iraqi people didnt compare to what the people of Zimbabwe face under Mugabe, for example, where huge numbers of people face starvation, and of course the people were also not free.

Invasion itself is a waste of resources and ineffient way to help people. If the motivation for invading Iraq was freeing the people, meaning that you're generally concerned with improving lives, there are far better ways to do that than any invasion -the hundreds of billions spent mostly on fighting and securing Iraq for the 25 million people there who, while not free, were not starving or dying en masse could have been far better spent promoting third world development, sex education, medicines and so on. Or, as Cost of War.com points out, it could have been spent on many improvements domestically.

The fact that Iraq was chosen above obvious superior alternatives renders the "We did it for the people!" argument without credibility.
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Darth Wong wrote:Don't be so quick to assume. I posted a similar thread at the PHPBB message boards, and the apologists are already out with the "Rumsfeld is a very busy man" bullshit.

republibloggers please tell that to the families of the following gentlemen:

Robert S. McNamara (Sec Defense for the 100/week vietnam war)
Secretary of War: George H. Dern (1933 - 1946)
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Darth Wong wrote:Yes, good ol' Rummy can't be bothered signing letters of condolence to the families of US soldiers killed in Iraq, so he has his staff use machines to sign the form letters:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4110091.stm

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What a fucking ass-clown. As if he couldn't find the time to sign roughly 1000 letters over a period of more than a year at literally a few seconds each.
Actually I didnt expected anything better from that guy. Im hardly suprised
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The Yosemite Bear wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Don't be so quick to assume. I posted a similar thread at the PHPBB message boards, and the apologists are already out with the "Rumsfeld is a very busy man" bullshit.

republibloggers please tell that to the families of the following gentlemen:

Robert S. McNamara (Sec Defense for the 100/week vietnam war)
Secretary of War: George H. Dern (1933 - 1946)
William Jenning Bryan (1912-1920)
Did they actually personally sign each and every 'I regret to inform you...' letter? :shock:

That's a shitload, especially for Dern and Bryan.
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Darth Wong wrote:What a fucking ass-clown. As if he couldn't find the time to sign roughly 1000 letters over a period of more than a year at literally a few seconds each.
Goddamn, I sign around 500 letters over a period of one day every year when we send out christmas cards to our customers.
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I don't know about Bryan, but Dern made a point of actually signing them, even though he had an army of secretaries writing them. and in the case of a few situations he actually wrote the letters (Like the Solomon bros.)
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What an asshole. Seriously, do these people have any decency at all?
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Well that bastard McNamera* caught hell for using "Form Letters", and just signing them, he still at least signed them.



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