Rumsfeld used a machine to sign letters to war widows

Boyish-Tigerlilly · Post by **Boyish-Tigerlilly** » 2004-12-21 12:34am

The one dude on Crossfire (the republican guy in the red vest) said how sympathetic and good Rumsfeld is. He goes to meetings with the soldiers.

He was the exact opposite of whatever the liberal on the left said. I don't know how they get anywhere on that show. They all say the opposite.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-12-21 12:42am

Boyish-Tigerlilly wrote:The one dude on Crossfire (the republican guy in the red vest) said how sympathetic and good Rumsfeld is. He goes to meetings with the soldiers.

He was the exact opposite of whatever the liberal on the left said. I don't know how they get anywhere on that show. They all say the opposite.

You mean Tucker Carlson? The douchebag in the bow-tie?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-12-21 01:53am

The best thing about Tucker Carlson is that, with luck, he will be forever remembered as Jon Stewart's Bitch.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-12-21 03:40am

that went out the window when it was pointed out that the World War Two counterpart for Rumsfield who could have used the same sort of stamp or machine signature signing equipment, either personally signed them as secretary of War, or had his chief aide Josephine or sent them up the FDR to sign, (like dealing with the massive deaths surrounding 5 June, 44 )

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-12-21 03:22pm

Axis Kast wrote:
I feel hurt...
At least I know I still have something resembling human decency and ethic in myself.
A pity you don't.
First of all, Rumsfeld was in the military. That's a fact too often swept under the rug by people here, and while I won't defend his decisions, the guy isn't exactly as much of a hypocrite as people like to imagine.

Just because he was in the military does make his deeds any better...how? If all, it only makes it worse.
And for not defending him, you produce an awful lot of air...

Secondly, in the Army, your boss doesn't stop being your boss just because he's a mean-spirited idiot. Sad fact of life. You can wax moralistic about how you wish we'd go and change the system - but it won't help you one whit.

And it's a sad fact of life that he helped sending these young people to their deaths.
It has nothing to do with "the system", or a "sad fact of life", but everything about morality and integrity.
Why should I trust someone who obviously can't be bothered to care about those people he sends to death?

It is a worthwile conversation to debate the moral capacity to lead. Someone like Rumsfeld who has the pretense of doing so has to at least live up to some standards of morality.
Define "moral capacity to lead." Me, I'd be satisfied with a guy who actually tried to remedy the problems at hand - at least demonstrably.

For a saviour of the poor Iraqi people, Rumsfeld shows disturbing low levels of compassion. He should at least try to imitate a human being...

Boyish-Tigerlilly · Post by **Boyish-Tigerlilly** » 2004-12-21 06:13pm

You mean Tucker Carlson? The douchebag in the bow-tie?

He's bad, but I didn't mean him. This guy was baldish and had grey hair.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-12-21 06:14pm

Boyish-Tigerlilly wrote:
You mean Tucker Carlson? The douchebag in the bow-tie?
He's bad, but I didn't mean him. This guy was baldish and had grey hair.

Robert Novak? The Douchebag of Liberty? Or was he injured or something?