Imerium of Man vs the Fury-verse Empire

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-08 10:07pm

The Imperium of Man versus the Empire from Path of the Fury.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-11-10 08:10pm

Very difficult to say, does the Imperium of Man have anything that can resist a targeted black hole? If we use the 600 gigaton torpedo stats the 40kers like to throw around, then the single digit gigaton yields of the Furyverse's other weapons are unlikely to have much effect.
Still not sure about the consistent Ftl speeds the IoM is capable of, but I'm certain they have more resources to throw around.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2002-11-11 06:15am

RAM THEM UNTIL THEY GIVE UP!!

A workable tactic for a Fasset-drive ship

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-11-11 07:21am

consequences wrote:Very difficult to say, does the Imperium of Man have anything that can resist a targeted black hole?

Depends on the mass of the 'hole in question, a fully fledged ex-star would require an Alpha + psyker to drop it into the warp. And the imperium rarely uses them, and would rather loose a ship than try that tactic.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-11-12 09:27am

enough of a black hole to instantly kill a million ton battlecruiser, potentially launched in large numbers by Furyvesre capital ships.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-11-12 11:56am

consequences wrote:enough of a black hole to instantly kill a million ton battlecruiser, potentially launched in large numbers by Furyvesre capital ships.

A million ton?

aren't borg cubes 2.5 million metric tonnes?

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-11-13 01:17am

Don't know about the displacement of Borg cubes, but SLAM salvos didn't have any difficulty butchering orbital fortresses, and Weber's writing usually places them at at least twice the displacement of a Superdreadnought, in this case probably at least 20 million tons.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-11-13 01:59am

A SLAM is a targeted black hole moving at .3c

I'm not really sure about the size of the hole, just that it's big enough to make the SLAM totally immune to fire from the front (or rear depending on whether it's accelerating or decellerating) and that SLAMs are so big even the biggest ships can't carry many of them.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-11-13 02:36am

I thought that the SLAM was constantly accelerating.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-13 07:27am

consequences wrote:I thought that the SLAM was constantly accelerating.

It's constantly moving towards it's black hole where ever that's pointed.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-11-14 02:10am

Yeah, I know that the system is supposed to work by tractoring a black hole in front of you, and constantly falling towards it to accelerate, this is why the .3c idea caught me by surprise.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2002-11-14 05:56am

consequences wrote:Yeah, I know that the system is supposed to work by tractoring a black hole in front of you, and constantly falling towards it to accelerate, this is why the .3c idea caught me by surprise.

It's not exactly tractoring a black hole.
It's Fasset Drive *generates* a black hole in front of it.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-11-14 09:04pm

And then the ship tractors it to keep from being pulled in.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-14 09:07pm

consequences wrote:And then the ship tractors it to keep from being pulled in.

No, it just generates it at a fixed distance ahead as it falls it generates the black hole further ahead.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-11-14 09:28pm

That's a neat trick, all things considered, and there has to be some sort of safety mechanism to make sure the ship doesn't fall in. Especially considering that you will eventually be moving towards the black hole at 99% of light speed, with it maybe a few miles ahead of you.