STGOD 2K5 OOC Thread

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2005-01-02 12:23am

Drop me somewhere in the galactic north, preferably near the rim.

Jaded Masses · Post by **Jaded Masses** » 2005-01-02 01:34am

Edited my OOB again: "Lost a dreadnought for ground forces. Started technology. Added holdings. Fiddled with populations"

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2005-01-02 01:48am

I'm gonna note again. Spending small amounts of starship points is close to worthless. For instance, Alyrium, I note you are spending 4 escort points for spies and assassins- so little that it's effectively not going to give your intelligence agencies any real advantage in the field. Everyone take note- advantages purchased cheaply will be worth what you paid for them, no more.

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2005-01-02 02:47am

Quick question, what's your average, garden-variety Light-years/hour speed for a hyperdrive? Haven't decided how the Sixth gets around yet, but I need an average speed to base things off until I do. Thanks

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2005-01-02 02:52am

SW-level. We are looking at a day's travel to cross the entire galaxy.

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2005-01-02 02:59am

Danke.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2005-01-02 03:01am

The point of putting the great waste on the map is to make sure that people don't think "Oooh! Empty space! I automatically triple the size of my territory!"

Bad idea anyway. Spreading your forces like that will just get you taken apart.

Jaded Masses · Post by **Jaded Masses** » 2005-01-02 03:59am

So how many points would one need to noticeably improve something?

Maybe you should assign ground troop points as well? as in you get 40 pts, and you can spread it around various services, so you could spend 10 points on logistics but then you wouldn't have 10 pts to spend on something else...

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2005-01-02 04:07am

Thirdfain wrote:I'm gonna note again. Spending small amounts of starship points is close to worthless. For instance, Alyrium, I note you are spending 4 escort points for spies and assassins- so little that it's effectively not going to give your intelligence agencies any real advantage in the field. Everyone take note- advantages purchased cheaply will be worth what you paid for them, no more.

Spending capital points to be worth much extra seems a bit excessive to me. Seems to me that spending a capital point on anything less than an entire corps would simply hit any reasonable upper limit and would suffer diminishing returns, not to speak of multiple capital points.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2005-01-02 10:43am

Thirdfain wrote:I'm gonna note again. Spending small amounts of starship points is close to worthless. For instance, Alyrium, I note you are spending 4 escort points for spies and assassins- so little that it's effectively not going to give your intelligence agencies any real advantage in the field. Everyone take note- advantages purchased cheaply will be worth what you paid for them, no more.

it is a matter of spending more than nothing my friend. And seriosly... for someone who is supposed to not be seen, diminishing returns are gong to kick in pretty damn quick.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2005-01-02 03:46pm

it is a matter of spending more than nothing my friend. And seriosly... for someone who is supposed to not be seen, diminishing returns are gong to kick in pretty damn quick.

Your budgets for those branches are going to be no more than 5% greater or so. Expect no significant tangible advantages.

So how many points would one need to noticeably improve something?

Maybe you should assign ground troop points as well? as in you get 40 pts, and you can spread it around various services, so you could spend 10 points on logistics but then you wouldn't have 10 pts to spend on something else...

To double the effectiveness of your army- to make a Regional's army equivelent to a Grand's, or a Minor's equivelent to a Regional's, you'd need to spend more than half your capital points. This precedent is firmly established, based on mod rulings from STGOD4 in which Monacora, played by Straha, fielded a power with a very weak navy but an excellent army.

Work along that guideline. Spenging only 4 escort points will get you very little.

Jaded Masses · Post by **Jaded Masses** » 2005-01-02 03:54pm

So to double the effectiveness of a portion of your army would only need a few points. That works for me.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2005-01-02 03:57pm

Jaded Masses wrote:So to double the effectiveness of a portion of your army would only need a few points. That works for me.

Exactly.

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2005-01-02 04:09pm

I should put myself on the map somewhere. *digs out RNG*
.193 and .423
That's a location between the Affront and the former PRCorneria and HABrigade. Good enough.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2005-01-02 04:41pm

I should put myself on the map somewhere. *digs out RNG*
.193 and .423
That's a location between the Affront and the former PRCorneria and HABrigade. Good enough.

Hi neighbor.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2005-01-02 04:54pm

Beowulf wrote:EDIT: oh, and I don't think the Great Waste should be quite as large. Most of the core, certainly. Around where there were major installations like New Holywood, Yarmuk, etc, certainly. Most of the galaxy? No.

Boyd Space covered most of the galaxy, and the Boyd Collective had a quite serious meltdown. Halite's invasion also trashed quite a good portion, mostly around SKS space.

But I'll tweak it a bit.

Edit: Here's the updated map (81kb)

I fragmented the Great Waste to make it coincide more with the past major STGOD invasions. Also added a few more powers and moved some around a bit. I'm leaving the old powers on the map just for reference; they can (I guess) be considered to still exist, it's just that nobody controls them much like the Gorn and Klingons.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2005-01-02 08:03pm

Do you by any chance have room for one more player?

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2005-01-02 08:16pm

Sure, but if you are the Krytos, don't expect friendly treatment from the Commonwealth. That little stunt you pulled at Coventry won't be easily forgotten...

Jaded Masses · Post by **Jaded Masses** » 2005-01-02 10:47pm

Mighten I get a location please? It would make me ever so happy...
The location I wanted has been taken

so how about an inch right of New Romulus/ an inch up from Optera. It should be a large dot, for two star systems. It would be labeled the Roma Republic. Thanks.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2005-01-02 10:51pm

I no one has any problems, I think we are about ready to get this started. Unless anyone has a problem, main thread goes up Monday afternoon.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2005-01-02 10:52pm

Thirdfain wrote:SW-level. We are looking at a day's travel to cross the entire galaxy.

Though I think because of the state of the Galaxy, with so many places blown to hell, Hyperspace travel should be rather dangerous. Mostly down a dozen or two well defined hyperspace lanes. The older powers probably knowing more secret routes that are safe.

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2005-01-02 10:58pm

Either that, or take above/below-elliptic courses, maybe taking a couple days, but circumventing the nastyness in between.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2005-01-02 11:01pm

Precisely. This is why some nations are spending lots of money forging new trade routes through the mess.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2005-01-02 11:21pm

White Haven wrote:Either that, or take above/below-elliptic courses, maybe taking a couple days, but circumventing the nastyness in between.

By the same issue though, space is 3D. Just to get OUT of the Galaxy you have to try and move through the whole mess thats leftover. I would expect travel down known hyperlanes to be a day or so to cross the Galaxy, but despite the best efforts of the Governments, pirates with highly illegal interdiction technology raid them.

Or you could slowly claw your way up and out, but this shuold have a penalty of 2-3-4-5 times longer or so.

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2005-01-02 11:24pm

At leats at first. be interesting to have a network of up and downlanes plotted here and there for extraelliptic travel. It's a thought to look into once we go IC.