Kickass Vanity Fair picture

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2005-01-05 10:41pm

I agree with Chardok.

It really hadn't hit me before now.

It's really going to be over.......

The pic is definitly tugging on the 'ole heartstrings.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2005-01-06 12:52am

andrewgpaul wrote:
VT-16 wrote:True, maybe Temura wasn´t available for the shoot.
There was no shoot. That photo's a composite shot.

That's how they got Jar-Jar and Grievous in there, since they're both CGI.

It was obviously a shoot with CGI composited in. Unless you think that they combined individual shots of every actor, even though some of them are holding each other

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2005-01-06 02:11am

This is probably sacrilege, but who's that sitting at Christopher Lee's feet? Anakin's mum?

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2005-01-06 02:13am

kheegan wrote:This is probably sacrilege, but who's that sitting at Christopher Lee's feet? Anakin's mum?

Yes. Pernilla August.

Executor32 · Post by **Executor32** » 2005-01-06 02:14am

andrewgpaul wrote:
VT-16 wrote:True, maybe Temura wasn´t available for the shoot.
There was no shoot. That photo's a composite shot.

That's how they got Jar-Jar and Grievous in there, since they're both CGI.

Didn't you notice how flat they looked? They're obviously cardboard cutouts.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2005-01-06 03:13am

VT-16 wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
LordShaithis wrote: ??
They have a Monichiwan (or however you spell it) suit in there.
You got the name wrong, and you got the costume wrong. You´re on a roll today.

Yeah, I got the name wrong. But the suit looks almost exactly like the one from Fifth Element.

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-01-06 04:41am

Alyeska wrote:
Yeah, I got the name wrong. But the suit looks almost exactly like the one from Fifth Element.

It really looks nothing like it- that's a cloak, not a suit- and the Fifth Element dudes have *totally* different heads, not to mention being fat bastards who waddle.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2005-01-06 11:20am

Vympel wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
Yeah, I got the name wrong. But the suit looks almost exactly like the one from Fifth Element.
It really looks nothing like it- that's a cloak, not a suit- and the Fifth Element dudes have *totally* different heads, not to mention being fat bastards who waddle.

(points to Adam Savage quote in sig)

Admiral Bravo · Post by **Admiral Bravo** » 2005-01-06 05:55pm

Why is James Earl Jones not in this picture!

Dead_Ghost · Post by **Dead_Ghost** » 2005-01-06 06:51pm

Why is James Earl Jones not in this picture!

Probably because:
A. George didn't managed to convince him to pose for the photo, or
B. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that most people who saw the OT, never knew/know that he WAS the man behind the mask. After all, the trilogy was made quite some time ago, only most of the movies-addicted and fans *cough*like-here-on-SD.net*cough* could remember such

...

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2005-01-06 07:42pm

Dead_Ghost wrote: B. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that most people who saw the OT, never knew/know that he WAS the man behind the mask. After all, the trilogy was made quite some time ago, only most of the movies-addicted and fans *cough*like-here-on-SD.net*cough* could remember such ...

James Earl Jones, wasn't the man behind the mask, he was the voice. David Prowse was the man behind the mask.

Dead_Ghost · Post by **Dead_Ghost** » 2005-01-06 08:06pm

KhyronTheBackstabber wrote:
Dead_Ghost wrote: B. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that most people who saw the OT, never knew/know that he WAS the man behind the mask. After all, the trilogy was made quite some time ago, only most of the movies-addicted and fans *cough*like-here-on-SD.net*cough* could remember such ...
James Earl Jones, wasn't the man behind the mask, he was the voice. David Prowse was the man behind the mask.

To me, it was JEJ! After all, apart some black-gloved gestures, nods, and bows, all the acting came directly from the voice!

Come on guys, I know I'm a n00b, but cut me some slack, will ya

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-01-06 11:10pm

Well, David Prowse did say the lines on set, and he was dubbed over later by James Earl Jones. That's how they got away with "I am your father" without spoiling it- David Prowse actually said "Obi Wan was your father".

Anyway, I take the Darth Vader suit to embody both Prowse and Jones.

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2005-01-06 11:26pm

Dead_Ghost wrote: To me, it was JEJ! After all, apart some black-gloved gestures, nods, and bows, all the acting came directly from the voice!
Come on guys, I know I'm a n00b, but cut me some slack, will ya

Credit where credit's due. You're only getting part of what make Vader, Vader. The voice was only the toping on the cake. The gestures, the way he carries himself when he walks, and the body language is all what make Vader the bad ass, who instills fear, and commands respect. Look at it this way, would Vader still be as bad ass, if it were Woody Allen behind the mask, with JEJ still doing the voice. On the other hand he wouldn't have the same effect if Prowse was be hind the mask, and Meatwad supplying the voice. It's like peanut butter, and chocolate, my friend.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2005-01-07 12:33am

Chardok wrote:As cool as it should be, aren't you guys the least bit sad to know that's it's all going to end?

It ended in 1983, dude. The EU, the prequels, and all the rest of it has been nothing but a 22 year death rattle.

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-01-07 12:41am

RedImperator wrote:
It ended in 1983, dude. The EU, the prequels, and all the rest of it has been nothing but a 22 year death rattle.

*boo-hiss*

Don't be like that.

Besides, most people who are bitter about the way Star Wars has gone say it began at ROTJ, not after, so shouldn't you say 1980?

Anyway, the prequels are the end, certainly not part of a death rattle. The EU doesn't enter my mind.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2005-01-07 12:51am

Vympel wrote:
RedImperator wrote:
It ended in 1983, dude. The EU, the prequels, and all the rest of it has been nothing but a 22 year death rattle.
*boo-hiss*

Don't be like that.

Besides, most people who are bitter about the way Star Wars has gone say it began at ROTJ, not after, so shouldn't you say 1980?

Anyway, the prequels are the end, certainly not part of a death rattle. The EU doesn't enter my mind.

ROTJ had its moments. It wasn't as good as the first two, but it wasn't bad. I've said before that a lot of the brain bugs that have ruined modern Star Wars got started in ROTJ, but it's not ROTJ's fault Lucas and the EU writers took its bad ideas and ran with them.

Though you're right that 1980 was the absolute pinnacle of the franchise. ROTJ was a giant blown opportunity, the prequels are at best all sizzle and no steak, and the EU is...well, the less said about it, the better.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2005-01-07 12:53am

Long live Kurtz.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-01-07 02:32am

Vympel wrote:W That's how they got away with "I am your father" without spoiling it- David Prowse actually said "Obi Wan was your father".

According to the DVDs Prowse said "Obi-Wan killed your father" which is in a sence true (without Obi-Wan Anakin would have taken a swim in lava

Dead_Ghost · Post by **Dead_Ghost** » 2005-01-07 04:18am

KhyronTheBackstabber wrote:
Dead_Ghost wrote: To me, it was JEJ! After all, apart some black-gloved gestures, nods, and bows, all the acting came directly from the voice!
Come on guys, I know I'm a n00b, but cut me some slack, will ya
Credit where credit's due. You're only getting part of what make Vader, Vader. The voice was only the toping on the cake. The gestures, the way he carries himself when he walks, and the body language is all what make Vader the bad ass, who instills fear, and commands respect. Look at it this way, would Vader still be as bad ass, if it were Woody Allen behind the mask, with JEJ still doing the voice. On the other hand he wouldn't have the same effect if Prowse was be hind the mask, and Meatwad supplying the voice. It's like peanut butter, and chocolate, my friend.

I don't agree with you with the fact that body language is what makes him the bad-ass. JEJ's voice took a grand part of it. With a character that didn't use a mask, then this would really be debatable, but in Darth Vader's case, sorry but I don't really think that body language was THAT much necessary. Only the voice told us whenever he WAS making a subtle/obvious threat in the first place. What did we saw though, was him pointing a finger, lowering his head a bit, and then turn swiftly and walk away. Not very much of a hint, is it?

However, I'm not saying Prowse's roll was pathetic. That's BS. It takes quite a large bit of effort and talent to move like he did, as a crippled and old man "powered" by the Force. The armour wasn't probably heavy to wear, but was definitely cumbersome. This, though, wouldn't be enough, otherwise George would've get ANY man (possibly the one with the lowest wages

) to get the job done. However, he needed someone to act like the voice hinted at. And Prowse did an excellent job at that!
To me, though, I still see JEJ as "the man behind the mask". His work with the voice was flawless, methinks.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2005-01-07 03:14pm

Yeah because James Earl Jones is built like an tank, oh wait he's not. David Prowse just being that huge walking nightmare was a good 50% of the role. Sure James Earl Jones played a unique role, his booming voice perfectly accompanying the height and bulk of Vader but it was by no means a one man show like you're trying to say it was.

Dead_Ghost · Post by **Dead_Ghost** » 2005-01-07 04:49pm

Lord Pounder wrote:it was by no means a one man show like you're trying to say it was.

I am??? Please specify "one man show"

. I've already said that Prowse did a great job beneath the armour. However, to me, JEJ played a more crucial part in the role than Prowse.
Whatever. Look, as far as I can tell, I've made the topic digress from its original point. My apologies for this. If anyone wants to debate this

, then feel free to open a new topic for it, and I'll be there to get my ass kicked (I AM a n00b, and that's what happens to us, right?

).

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2005-01-07 05:11pm

Don't put words in my mouth you little fuck. I can read.

EJ's voice took a grand part of it. With a character that didn't use a mask, then this would really be debatable, but in Darth Vader's case, sorry but I don't really think that body language was THAT much necessary. Only the voice told us whenever he WAS making a subtle/obvious threat in the first place. What did we saw though, was him pointing a finger, lowering his head a bit, and then turn swiftly and walk away. Not very much of a hint, is it?

You basically imply that any monkey could have worse the suit. Welcome to Stardestroyer.Net but don't think being a n00b will get you off the hook if you're thick as shite.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-01-07 05:55pm

Guys, please? The thread? The sweet melancholy brought up by the image?

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2005-01-08 12:18am

aaawww the group, Portman is as lovely as ever. Mark Hamill shapeshifted again. Seriously ever other year he looks diffrent. And is that an older Jake Lloyd next to Ian or is that Daniel Logan?

Mark Hamill part 2 seriously in ANH hes him. SWHS: hes wearing alot of makeup and looks like a girl ESB: he looks a little older like anyother human does ROTJ: his face is bloated

than time passes 96' hes ESB luke again than J+SB Strike Back: he looks like a mix between ESB Luke and SWHS special Luke

Between than and Episode 2 he looks like an older gay SWHS Luke with reddish blonde hair

now hes normal older ESB Luke, aww the many faces of Mark Hamill