Rocks To The Head

[Ghost Rider]

And yeah, they have to be rather strong...if for nothing to be able to literally construct some of the equipment they did.

I'm wondering how much they constructed, versus how much the Rebel commandos constructed?

I mean the rock traps maybe, the log traps maybe...but a few of the others, but I have some problem with the catapults. How long would it take a group of 20 people to construct those things?

I remember there being at least 4-5 of them as well.

[Lord Poe]

I mean the rock traps maybe, the log traps maybe...but a few of the others, but I have some problem with the catapults. How long would it take a group of 20 people to construct those things?

I remember there being at least 4-5 of them as well.

Catapults they may have had around to fight those giants living on Endor. But the log traps and such seem specific to the walkers.

[LadyTevar]

I mean the rock traps maybe, the log traps maybe...but a few of the others, but I have some problem with the catapults. How long would it take a group of 20 people to construct those things?

I remember there being at least 4-5 of them as well.

Catapults they may have had around to fight those giants living on Endor. But the log traps and such seem specific to the walkers.

Not necessarily... log traps would work on giants too.

[YT300000]

I mean the rock traps maybe, the log traps maybe...but a few of the others, but I have some problem with the catapults. How long would it take a group of 20 people to construct those things?

I remember there being at least 4-5 of them as well.

Catapults they may have had around to fight those giants living on Endor. But the log traps and such seem specific to the walkers.

Not necessarily... log traps would work on giants too.

Yeah, the Gorax is IIRC the same height as the AT-ST's, so the logs would get it smack dab in the head.

[Rogue 9]

When did the commandoes have time to build all this equipment, and even if they did, why would they? The Ewoks were obviously not expected.

[Lord Poe]

When did the commandoes have time to build all this equipment, and even if they did, why would they? The Ewoks were obviously not expected.

Not expected? They spent the entire night in their village, where Luke and Leia convinced them to help the Rebels against the Empire!

[Darth Wong]

I seriously doubt the commandoes had much of a hand in the construction of the Ewok traps. If you have never built a catapult before, you are better off letting people familiar with that kind of technology build it. Knowing the general principle doesn't mean you will expertly design and build one on your first try, and they could no doubt spend their time more effectively on teaching the Ewoks about standard stormtrooper combat tactics.

[Tychu]

The fact some of the Stormtroopers tried to get back up says a lot about the armour's shock absorbing abilities as is...

or.... dream sequence you see in many shows starts to play.......

its 1982 the filming of the Endor battle is finishing just some touch up shots
the author of this post is not yet born, 2 cousins are though

Ewok actors start tossing plastic 2 lb rocks at stormtrooper actors who go down, but get back up

Director of Blue Harvest: hey hey hey, get back down, your knocked out!!!
Leader of the idiots: knocked out?!? these things are plastic!!
DOBH: ::shakes head:: damn extras!

[YT300000]

The fact some of the Stormtroopers tried to get back up says a lot about the armour's shock absorbing abilities as is...

or.... dream sequence you see in many shows starts to play.......

its 1982 the filming of the Endor battle is finishing just some touch up shots
the author of this post is not yet born, 2 cousins are though

Ewok actors start tossing plastic 2 lb rocks at stormtrooper actors who go down, but get back up

Director of Blue Harvest: hey hey hey, get back down, your knocked out!!!
Leader of the idiots: knocked out?!? these things are plastic!!
DOBH: ::shakes head:: damn extras!

George Lucas and Richard Marquand would probably have outlined everything to the extras prior to shooting the scene, but whatever.

[wolveraptor]

this may not be the case for ewoks. they don't have a brachiator's build. does anyone know how they traverse the tree-tops?

There's a little bit where one of them swings on a vine, when they're taking Luke, Han et al to the village. I reckon they started down on the surface, and moved up to the trees in order to avoid predators and all that.

They make me think more of raccoons and other animals that forage both on the ground and in the trees. Small build, stubby but agile fingers, cunning and clever with problem-solving skills.

...but racoons have claws, don't they? i still don't get how they actually climb INTO the trees.

[Howedar]

Undoubtedly the way humans or monkeys do. None of us have claws, you know.

[wolveraptor]

yeah, but we've a lot better reach than Ewoks, and even then, we're still considered terrestrial.

the way they are, it seems like they could only access the tree tops by finding some low hanging branch, with a convieniently placed higher branch just above, it, etc. leading all the way up to the canopy.

maybe they aren't as arboreal as we think. they even have a build indicative of running on the ground. erect stance, stout, powerful legs, etc.

[Ghost Rider]

And that whole tree top village was built again how?

Like Howedar said, like monkeys do(and before you got into it...they don't have as good as we do either).

[Master of Ossus]

In Illustrated Guide to the Star Wars Universe, it's shown that the Ewoks have LOTS of habitats and range over a huge fraction of Endor, including terrestrial and even semi-aquatic areas.

Incidentally, two Ewoks easily picked up Artoo with a wooden frame to help them grip the little guy. Since Luke struggled in ESB to right Artoo (using his feet and legs to gain leverage), that should provide some indication of how strong they actually are.

[nightmare]

In Illustrated Guide to the Star Wars Universe, it's shown that the Ewoks have LOTS of habitats and range over a huge fraction of Endor, including terrestrial and even semi-aquatic areas.

Incidentally, two Ewoks easily picked up Artoo with a wooden frame to help them grip the little guy. Since Luke struggled in ESB to right Artoo (using his feet and legs to gain leverage), that should provide some indication of how strong they actually are.

Now there's a good point if I ever saw one. Its the first actual, direct evidence I've heard of that indicates Ewok strenght.

[wolveraptor]

And that whole tree top village was built again how?

Like Howedar said, like monkeys do(and before you got into it...they don't have as good as we do either).

i'm trying to figure out how they built the village. just saying they did without providing a mechanism doesn't answer my question.

monkeys are a lot lankier than the seemingly stout Ewoks. they have good reach for their weight, and can jump as well.

anyways, it appears that Ewoks aren't wholly arboreal after all.

[Ghost Rider]

And that whole tree top village was built again how?

Like Howedar said, like monkeys do(and before you got into it...they don't have as good as we do either).

i'm trying to figure out how they built the village. just saying they did without providing a mechanism doesn't answer my question.

monkeys are a lot lankier than the seemingly stout Ewoks. they have good reach for their weight, and can jump as well.

anyways, it appears that Ewoks aren't wholly arboreal after all.

Aside from the other habitats...you've been going how do they do it?

It must be.......

Either come up with a solution that satisfies you or stop blathering well it must...ummm...nothing makes sense.

Literally you haven't been trying to figure out, you've been trying to pigeonhole them.

[Elheru Aran]

maybe they aren't as arboreal as we think. they even have a build indicative of running on the ground. erect stance, stout, powerful legs, etc.

Actually, all that build indicates is that they're short and powerful. If they were built for running, they'd have much longer legs (don't tell me you didn't see their waddle gait... whch's certainly not the best way to run).

Their short/strong legs, fairly long arms (relative to leg length) indicate a fair adaption to arboreal life, but also a pretty good degree of multi-tasking built into their physical form; they would most likely be fairly comfortable both in the trees and on the ground, as they indeed turn out to be. I see nothing at all which proves an exclusively terrestial, nor exclusively arboreal, capacity-- only much proof for capability in both environments, which is precisely fucking what we're arguing....

[wolveraptor]

according to "Predatory Dinosaurs of the World: A Complete Illustrated Guide" by Gregory S. Paul, tests have been done on lizards to prove that gracility and long-limbs doesn't actually make one faster. what it does is allow one to run with less energy.

for fast sprinting, one requires a lot of muscle. 100 metre champions look very different from marathon runners. like ewoks, they are stout, with strong legs and powerful muscles.

just look at grizzly bears. they can out sprint horses, yet have a short-limbed, plaintigrade stance, contradictory to the general idea of fast animals.

[The Original Nex]

according to "Predatory Dinosaurs of the World: A Complete Illustrated Guide" by Gregory S. Paul, tests have been done on lizards to prove that gracility and long-limbs doesn't actually make one faster. what it does is allow one to run with less energy.

for fast sprinting, one requires a lot of muscle. 100 metre champions look very different from marathon runners. like ewoks, they are stout, with strong legs and powerful muscles.

just look at grizzly bears. they can out sprint horses, yet have a short-limbed, plaintigrade stance, contradictory to the general idea of fast animals.

And yet, by your own admission, animals with long legs expend far less energy running, therefore are better suited for a running lifestyle. Bears can run as fast as a horse for very short distances, but very rarely do they ever use this ability because they aren't animals who are designed for running.

And BTW, long legs are very related to speed because of stride. If you have longer legs, you'll have a longer stride, which ultimately allows you to cover more distance per stride than someone with short legs, and therefore run faster, even if you have the same number of strides over a given ammount of time.

And your generalization about runners is just that, a generalization, there can, and have been plenty of short sprinters, and can, and been plenty of tall marathoners. Your hight doesn't determine the running style you'll be best at.