STGOD 2K5 OOC Thread

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2005-01-08 03:09am

I have finally got my OOB posted. So, I just need a spot. Put me out in the middle of nowhere, outside the great waste, a place where I could have been ignored for a very long time.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-01-08 11:41am

Just for asking, since I can't find it in the OOB's, what exactly is the Eastern trading rim(whatever the exact name is)?

Is it like a grand Free Trade group? Which sounds like something that fits my empire well.

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2005-01-08 11:47am

It was created in game, if you look about 5 pages back. It's Thirdfain's little pet project, although I forget who else is in it at the moment.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-01-08 11:56am

Bugsby wrote:It was created in game, if you look about 5 pages back. It's Thirdfain's little pet project, although I forget who else is in it at the moment.

Can't find it over there, nor the OOB, nor the preliminary diplomacy thread.

going to try PMing.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2005-01-08 01:18pm

Agent Fisher wrote:I have finally got my OOB posted. So, I just need a spot. Put me out in the middle of nowhere, outside the great waste, a place where I could have been ignored for a very long time.

OK, you've been added. See previous map link.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-01-08 01:54pm

Do we have the capacity to build new hyperlanes?

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-01-08 01:57pm

InnocentBystander wrote:Do we have the capacity to build new hyperlanes?

I think someone said we can clear the purple lanes from deep damage, but it requires alot of ships to clear it out.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-01-08 02:00pm

I thought the purple lanes were already clear? Are you thinking of the old red lanes?

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-01-08 02:01pm

InnocentBystander wrote:I thought the purple lanes were already clear? Are you thinking of the old red lanes?

Woops yep.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-01-08 02:03pm

I didn't follow Bab5 closely enough to know - what makes a hyperlane?

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2005-01-08 02:03pm

A hyperlane is a SW convention, not a Bab5 one. However, for the purposes of STGOD, I guess we consider a hyperlane to be an area clear for most forms of FTL drives.

Since a hyperlane is simply a mathematical route through hyperspace in a region, all you need to do is explore an area of hyperspace until you find the fastest route between points A and B. Once you find that route, you can put it on the charts and start patrolling it. That's when it becomes a regular hyperlane.

You could also attempt to clear / re-chart one of the old (red) hyperlanes. However, those have often had supernovae or other obstructions placed in the way, meaning that re-charting them will have to be done from scratch. And that takes time.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-01-08 02:06pm

Crayz9000 wrote:A hyperlane is a SW convention, not a Bab5 one. However, for the purposes of STGOD, I guess we consider a hyperlane to be an area clear for most forms of FTL drives.

Since a hyperlane is simply a mathematical route through hyperspace in a region, all you need to do is explore an area of hyperspace until you find the fastest route between points A and B. Once you find that route, you can put it on the charts and start patrolling it. That's when it becomes a regular hyperlane.

You could also attempt to clear / re-chart one of the old (red) hyperlanes. However, those have often had supernovae or other obstructions placed in the way, meaning that re-charting them will have to be done from scratch. And that takes time.

Also, are the named systems, like Ain-Tiar, which are in the center of a hyperspace junction, like defended with stuff, or are just historical points of interest?

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2005-01-08 02:10pm

Crayz9000 wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:I have finally got my OOB posted. So, I just need a spot. Put me out in the middle of nowhere, outside the great waste, a place where I could have been ignored for a very long time.
OK, you've been added. See previous map link.

Wow, I really am out in the middle of nowhere.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2005-01-08 02:17pm

Ace Pace wrote:Also, are the named systems, like Ain-Tiar, which are in the center of a hyperspace junction, like defended with stuff, or are just historical points of interest?

Both. Some of them still have operable defenses (XHJ-178 is a good example) and are places that you just don't want to get too close to. Others have been burned out so thoroughly that they're just lumps of carbon now, not even worth going to for minerals. Nobody really knows what category an old major system falls into until they go there.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-01-08 02:19pm

So what's stopping me from finding and patrolling a clear path here:

Note that I've made it nice and bold so you can see it.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-01-08 02:20pm

Crayz9000 wrote:
Both. Some of them still have operable defenses (XHJ-178 is a good example) and are places that you just don't want to get too close to. Others have been burned out so thoroughly that they're just lumps of carbon now, not even worth going to for minerals. Nobody really knows what category an old major system falls into until they go there.

Now for a truly dumb question, who decides whats in those major systems?

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-01-08 02:20pm

Crayz9000 wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:Also, are the named systems, like Ain-Tiar, which are in the center of a hyperspace junction, like defended with stuff, or are just historical points of interest?
Both. Some of them still have operable defenses (XHJ-178 is a good example) and are places that you just don't want to get too close to. Others have been burned out so thoroughly that they're just lumps of carbon now, not even worth going to for minerals. Nobody really knows what category an old major system falls into until they go there.

Speaking of which - what happened to Rigel over there?

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-01-08 02:20pm

Ace Pace wrote:
Crayz9000 wrote:
Both. Some of them still have operable defenses (XHJ-178 is a good example) and are places that you just don't want to get too close to. Others have been burned out so thoroughly that they're just lumps of carbon now, not even worth going to for minerals. Nobody really knows what category an old major system falls into until they go there.
Now for a truly dumb question, who decides whats in those major systems?

I believe that was decided back in ASVS STGOD/STGOD2

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2005-01-08 02:24pm

Ace Pace wrote:Now for a truly dumb question, who decides whats in those major systems?

That would be up to the game moderators. I've been the ASVS STGOD compiler/maintainer for a few years now so I'm pretty familiar with the histories of those worlds, you could probably ask me OOC in most cases. But if you want to claim such a system or something I'd ask whoever's moderating.

InnocentBystander wrote:Speaking of which - what happened to Rigel over there?

It suffered a revolt by Communist forces (backed by Marina's USSSR) and then was a major battle site in the Halite invasion. There's not much left.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2005-01-08 02:26pm

InnocentBystander wrote:So what's stopping me from finding and patrolling a clear path here ...
Note that I've made it nice and bold so you can see it.

Absolutely nothing is stopping you. Just make an IC post explaining it (mind you, charting a hyperlane isn't like dusting crops, boy

) and I'll add it to the map.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-01-08 02:26pm

So if I wanted to put a space station there as a way-station between my space and Fenari, no ancient planetary battlements would spring to life and start tearing things apart?

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-01-08 02:27pm

Crayz9000 wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote:So what's stopping me from finding and patrolling a clear path here ...
Note that I've made it nice and bold so you can see it.
Absolutely nothing is stopping you. Just make an IC post explaining it (mind you, charting a hyperlane isn't like dusting crops, boy ) and I'll add it to the map.

Well I've never dusted crops- but it's not *too* long of a distance, some long range probes could do the job, pretty easily

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-01-08 02:28pm

Crayz9000 wrote:
That would be up to the game moderators. I've been the ASVS STGOD compiler/maintainer for a few years now so I'm pretty familiar with the histories of those worlds, you could probably ask me OOC in most cases. But if you want to claim such a system or something I'd ask whoever's moderating.

Okey, since I brought it up IC, whats in Ain-Tiar?

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2005-01-08 02:45pm

InnocentBystander wrote:So if I wanted to put a space station there as a way-station between my space and Fenari, no ancient planetary battlements would spring to life and start tearing things apart?

There might be some derelict planetoids left over from the Royal Atlantean Navy, I'm not particularly sure. Go ahead and give it a shot, but look out for moons with a 4000km diameter.

Ace Pace wrote:Okey, since I brought it up IC, whats in Ain-Tiar?

Well, it was a former Eldar homeworld in the Boyd Collective. (WH40k Eldar, the one and the same.) I'd be willing to bet that there's raw chaos magic all over the place from the collapse of the Collective. You know, random mutations, unspeakable evil, that sort of thing that you don't want your kids going near. It'll probably dissipate after a few thousand years, but it's only been about two hundred fifty or so.

The planet was also heavily devestated (like all other important Boyd worlds) by all means of heavy weaponry.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2005-01-08 02:48pm

Hey, I started the long process of mapping a space lane from my territory to one of the other lanes. Basiclly I am mapping it so only my ships now about it. And I dont want to have them making a lot of jumps to get to where ever they are going.