No Freak Dancing aka Footloose Part Deuce

[Stravo]

Principal cracks down on 'freak dancing'
Monday, January 10, 2005 Posted: 1:00 PM EST (1800 GMT)


LEMOORE, California (AP) -- Fed up with students' racy moves, a principal has taken the unusual step of canceling the rest of this year's school dances.

Principal Jim Bennett of Lemoore Union High School said he warned students at a winter formal dance last month to either quit dirty dancing or face the possibility of not dancing at all.

But he said the students continued "freak dancing," a form of sexually suggestive dancing that involves grinding the hips and pelvic area.

The ban on dances includes the school's Sadie Hawkins dance in February and the junior and senior proms in the spring, but Bennett said they could be rescheduled if students modify their behavior.

"It's really up to the kids at this point. They have to take some responsibility," Bennett said.

Organizers of the Sadie Hawkins dance, a fund-raiser for the school's FFA Organization branch, formerly Future Farmers of America, are working with Bennett to come up with a series of regulations, which could allow that dance to go on.

One idea is to let students sign a form stating that raunchy dancing will get them kicked out.

Students hope similar regulations could lead to the reinstatement of other dances, particularly the prom.

"Some students save up all year to buy a dress or rent a tuxedo and buy flowers for the prom," said student body president Zohra Lakhani, a 17-year-old senior. "To crush everyone's dreams, it's not fair."

*Sigh* Look it's Elvis the Pelvis '04 style. You think we'd be past this shit by now.

[Anhaga]

You think this is bad- at my junior college (equivalent to last two years of high school) dances we had teachers on chaperon duty to make sure nobody kissed anyone else.

This is one of the stories I don't tell to my friends here at uni in the UK because it's too cringeworthy.

Of course that was back in Singapore, the world's favourite nanny state...

[Stravo]

Another thing that bugs me about this is that it cuts against one of the more fundamental ways a youngster's mind works. C'mon parents you know the deal - the minute we forbid something the kid gets more curious about it. I'm not saying leave pron lying around the house but if you start treating dirty dancing as "the evil" then the kids - already curious from that hormone soup they have floating around in their blood - are going to want to investigate further. You'd think some of these people would learn but it seems that all adults forget what its like to be a child at one point or another and make the same fundamental mistakes their parents made.

[Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi]

Might I ask the principal who made this decision who exactly is hurt when two consenting students decide to do a racy dance together? It's not like there are any of those "impressionable young minds who might take it the wrong way" prudes talk about all of the time at a high school dance.

[Chmee]

The ban on dances includes the school's Sadie Hawkins dance in February and the junior and senior proms in the spring, but Bennett said they could be rescheduled if students modify their behavior.

So ... the problem is their behavior at dances. Dances have been cancelled. But if they behave better at the cancelled dances, they'll be un-cancelled.

Catch-22!

[Durandal]

And how would this guy suggest that people dance? Do the fucking box step to techno and rap? Or standing at arm's length barely touching each other and walking around like a couple of fucking fifth-graders? Give me a break.

The whole point of today's dance music is to get the pelvic areas grinding, and it works exceedingly well. There's nothing quite like dancing in a club with a girl who's every bit as horny as you are. That kind of lust is hard to come by.

[White Haven]

I also have to wonder how the flying fuck he thinks it's any of his business, and who allowed him out of an elementary-school building? Get over it, I heard and saw more blatantly sexual shit in middle school.

[Stormbringer]

And how would this guy suggest that people dance? Do the fucking box step to techno and rap? Or standing at arm's length barely touching each other and walking around like a couple of fucking fifth-graders? Give me a break.

The whole point of today's dance music is to get the pelvic areas grinding, and it works exceedingly well. There's nothing quite like dancing in a club with a girl who's every bit as horny as you are. That kind of lust is hard to come by.

But not really appropriate to a school dance.

[Durandal]

And how would this guy suggest that people dance? Do the fucking box step to techno and rap? Or standing at arm's length barely touching each other and walking around like a couple of fucking fifth-graders? Give me a break.

The whole point of today's dance music is to get the pelvic areas grinding, and it works exceedingly well. There's nothing quite like dancing in a club with a girl who's every bit as horny as you are. That kind of lust is hard to come by.

But not really appropriate to a school dance.

Why not? Because it turns boys and girls on?

I'll let you in on something. School dances are supposed to encourage mating and social interactions between males and females. That's the whole point of their existence. When you get teenaged boys and girls together, there's going to be hormones floating around. Lots.

When did basic biology become so difficult to understand?

[Darth Wong]

And how would this guy suggest that people dance? Do the fucking box step to techno and rap? Or standing at arm's length barely touching each other and walking around like a couple of fucking fifth-graders? Give me a break.

The whole point of today's dance music is to get the pelvic areas grinding, and it works exceedingly well. There's nothing quite like dancing in a club with a girl who's every bit as horny as you are. That kind of lust is hard to come by.

But not really appropriate to a school dance.

Must you leap into every criticism of some moronic right-winger and reflexively defend him, no matter how asinine his behaviour? You don't even bother to justify anything; you just say he's right.

[Stormbringer]

Why not? Because it turns boys and girls on?

I'll let you in on something. School dances are supposed to encourage mating and social interactions between males and females. That's the whole point of their existence.

A great many people would have a problem with their kid's school encouraging a bunch of minors to making with the fucking. I agree with you on the social interaction but to say that teenage sex is something that school's should be tacitly encouraging... HELL NO,

[Chmee]

You really think that teachers have ANY influence on the strongest instinctive drive of our species? You might as well try to discourage breathing.

[Stormbringer]

You really think that teachers have ANY influence on the strongest instinctive drive of our species? You might as well try to discourage breathing.

They probably have little. That doesn't mean the encouragement, tacit or otherwise, is going to over well.

[J]

The whole point of today's dance music is to get the pelvic areas grinding, and it works exceedingly well. There's nothing quite like dancing in a club with a girl who's every bit as horny as you are. That kind of lust is hard to come by.

But not really appropriate to a school dance.

If the dances are being held on school property then it can be argued that dirty dancing is not appropriate for an educational institution and whatever.

Now as far as I know formals & proms are never held on school grounds, the school's involvement ends at arranging the paperwork to rent out a hall or club for the night. In some cases the school's not even involved, it's the students who arrange & pay for the facilities themselves, that's the way we did things in my school, our student association did everything.

When the event doesn't even take place on school property and has minimal if any involvement from the school, what right do they have to tell the kids what they can or can't do? If I got together with 100 of my highschool friends and classmates to rent out a banquet hall for a night and do some dirty dancing, what right does my school have to tell me not to do it? Are they my parents? And why is it somehow perfectly OK for me to be dirty dancing not three months later during Frosh week at university?

I can see a point in placing some limits for middle school dances which are generally held in the school's gym, but for high school events which don't even take place anywhere near the school? Get real.

[Col. Crackpot]

If the dances are being held on school property then it can be argued that dirty dancing is not appropriate for an educational institution and whatever.

Now as far as I know formals & proms are never held on school grounds, the school's involvement ends at arranging the paperwork to rent out a hall or club for the night. In some cases the school's not even involved, it's the students who arrange & pay for the facilities themselves, that's the way we did things in my school, our student association did everything.

When the event doesn't even take place on school property and has minimal if any involvement from the school, what right do they have to tell the kids what they can or can't do? If I got together with 100 of my highschool friends and classmates to rent out a banquet hall for a night and do some dirty dancing, what right does my school have to tell me not to do it? Are they my parents? And why is it somehow perfectly OK for me to be dirty dancing not three months later during Frosh week at university?

I can see a point in placing some limits for middle school dances which are generally held in the school's gym, but for high school events which don't even take place anywhere near the school? Get real.

In the US Schools still assume civil liability for all school sponsored events: Proms, dances, field trips etc.

[Stormbringer]

If the dances are being held on school property then it can be argued that dirty dancing is not appropriate for an educational institution and whatever.

I can't speak to Canada but in the US it's relatively common to have the school fairly directly involved. And this sounds like it's the case, but thanks to Stravo not even providing a link, it's hard to see if it even says.

Now as far as I know formals & proms are never held on school grounds, the school's involvement ends at arranging the paperwork to rent out a hall or club for the night. In some cases the school's not even involved, it's the students who arrange & pay for the facilities themselves, that's the way we did things in my school, our student association did everything.

If the school's not involved then it doesn't have a say. The problem is even if it's organized through school committees then it becomes a school sanctioned event, which then have to meet certain standards. It's the same reason that school get in trouble for bible clubs and the like; they have school sanction.

I can see a point in placing some limits for middle school dances which are generally held in the school's gym, but for high school events which don't even take place anywhere near the school? Get real.

And we don't have enough to say definitively.

[Tommy J]

Principal cracks down on 'freak dancing'
Monday, January 10, 2005 Posted: 1:00 PM EST (1800 GMT)



"Some students save up all year to buy a dress or rent a tuxedo and buy flowers for the prom," said student body president Zohra Lakhani, a 17-year-old senior. "To crush everyone's dreams, it's not fair."

*Sigh* Look it's Elvis the Pelvis '04 style. You think we'd be past this shit by now.

Some parents and/or teachers should chime into this discussion. However it seems to be that schools administrations and teaching staffs are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Schools have increasingly been asked to be not only a learning institution but a baby sitting service and in the last 10-15 years more like defacto parents. This coupled with the fact the parents will sue a school distrist at the drop of the hat with any problems that occur when their children are in their custody.

So when a student accident occurs at a dance, a girl claims she was sexually harassed, or worse raped school districts are leary of sanctioning any behavior that might bite them in the ass later.

[aerius]

Schools have increasingly been asked to be not only a learning institution but a baby sitting service and in the last 10-15 years more like defacto parents. This coupled with the fact the parents will sue a school distrist at the drop of the hat with any problems that occur when their children are in their custody.

So when a student accident occurs at a dance, a girl claims she was sexually harassed, or worse raped school districts are leary of sanctioning any behavior that might bite them in the ass later.

That's gotta suck. We had a bar at the banquet hall where my highschool formal was held, and let's just say several people got piss drunk. Not to mention underage drinking since the drinking age here is 19 and half of us were still 18. And my GF can tell you guys about the bumping & grinding we did and how I had a hard-on for the whole time I was dancing with her. The formal, the closest I ever got to getting laid without getting laid, and probably about the only worthwhile event of my whole highschool life.

[Durandal]

Why not? Because it turns boys and girls on?

I'll let you in on something. School dances are supposed to encourage mating and social interactions between males and females. That's the whole point of their existence.

A great many people would have a problem with their kid's school encouraging a bunch of minors to making with the fucking. I agree with you on the social interaction but to say that teenage sex is something that school's should be tacitly encouraging... HELL NO,

So where, exactly, do you draw the line? Grinding pelvises is sexually provocative, but rarely leads to anything more, as any guy with blue balls in a club will tell you.

Take a hypothetical scenario. Two couples are on a dance floor, both composed of two people who just met. The first are grinding and dancing very suggestively, while the other are kissing each other and making out. Which do you think has a greater chance of stealing off to have sex? Almost certainly the second.

So what's your solution? Ban making out and grinding from school dances? That's ridiculous. Why not ban holding hands, girls eating bananas and girls sitting on guys' laps while you're at it? Jesus, were you ever a teenager? Everything turns teenagers on, and the matter of degree is relatively insignificant. 16 year-old boys will sprout boners if a cute girl looks at them, for Christ's sake.

[Illuminatus Primus]

You really think that teachers have ANY influence on the strongest instinctive drive of our species? You might as well try to discourage breathing.

They probably have little. That doesn't mean the encouragement, tacit or otherwise, is going to over well.

This is moronic. If you think banning the two school dances in High School every year will prevent me or anyone else from fucking even once, you're out of your fucking mind.

[White Haven]

Frankly, I think anyone who believes that it's any part of a school's business is ALSO out of their fucking minds. Yes, that includes idiot parents and the twit lawyers who latch onto them. No offence to our resident SDN lawyers, hell my aunt's one, but you know the type.

[Howedar]

Why not? Because it turns boys and girls on?

I'll let you in on something. School dances are supposed to encourage mating and social interactions between males and females. That's the whole point of their existence.

A great many people would have a problem with their kid's school encouraging a bunch of minors to making with the fucking. I agree with you on the social interaction but to say that teenage sex is something that school's should be tacitly encouraging... HELL NO,

In the South, I would guess that a great many people have a problem with their kid's school teaching evolution. Please explain the difference.

[Stormbringer]

Why not? Because it turns boys and girls on?

I'll let you in on something. School dances are supposed to encourage mating and social interactions between males and females. That's the whole point of their existence.

A great many people would have a problem with their kid's school encouraging a bunch of minors to making with the fucking. I agree with you on the social interaction but to say that teenage sex is something that school's should be tacitly encouraging... HELL NO,

In the South, I would guess that a great many people have a problem with their kid's school teaching evolution. Please explain the difference.

In one the only harm is "The imaginary man in the sky is mad" and the other can lead to objectively measurable harm.

[Howedar]

And that would be...

[Knife]

Any social function where you bring teenage boys and girls together, you are flirting with sex. Human mating rituals and all. The should have these things chaperoned, but only to pull naked bodies apart, rather than get in the way of young men and women from figuring out how to interact with one another.

Interact, not intercourse.

But they should really becareful, because all that sex could lead to dancing.