Crown wrote:Shouldn't anti discriminations laws protect all US citizens anyway (in theory)?
In theory the 9th and 14th ammendments cover this issue.
They do in that they incorporate Federal laws to be binding on the states, but Federal law doesn't define GLBT people as being in the aforementioned protected categories.
If the civil rights acts were amended to include GLBT people then of course the laws would be binding on all the states, including such oases of tolerance as Alabama.
Until then (or such time as the courts reinterpret 'gender' to include GLBT people*), gays and such are not covered under Federal civil rights laws.
*If you though the MA gay marriage issue touched off a shitstorm, wait'll the courts do this.
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."- General Sir Charles Napier
Justforfun000 wrote:I still find it inconceivable that only a small percentage of states have these laws. Why does America keep trumpeting they are so perfect? Land of the free my ass.
We're not perfect up here, but we're light years ahead of that country in those respects.
And if you want to turn this into a US/Canada pissing match, we're light years ahead of y'all on free speech. Just ask that asshole Ernst Zundel.
So ... in Canada the gays and lesbians are protected, while in America the Nazis are protected? I wouldn't be too proud of that if I were you.
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"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
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Justforfun000 wrote:I still find it inconceivable that only a small percentage of states have these laws. Why does America keep trumpeting they are so perfect? Land of the free my ass.
We're not perfect up here, but we're light years ahead of that country in those respects.
And if you want to turn this into a US/Canada pissing match, we're light years ahead of y'all on free speech. Just ask that asshole Ernst Zundel.
So ... in Canada the gays and lesbians are protected, while in America the Nazis are protected? I wouldn't be too proud of that if I were you.
Not the Nazis per se, but their (and everyone else's) right to speak out.
Perhaps the ideal would be Canadian gay rights laws and US free speech laws?
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."- General Sir Charles Napier
Glocksman wrote:
And if you want to turn this into a US/Canada pissing match, we're light years ahead of y'all on free speech. Just ask that asshole Ernst Zundel.
So ... in Canada the gays and lesbians are protected, while in America the Nazis are protected? I wouldn't be too proud of that if I were you.
Not the Nazis per se, but their (and everyone else's) right to speak out.
Perhaps the ideal would be Canadian gay rights laws and US free speech laws?
Canada still wins, since we've relagated all our intolerant assholes to Alberta. Frankly, you can have it if you want.
Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:
Canada still wins, since we've relagated all our intolerant assholes to Alberta. Frankly, you can have it if you want.
Thanks, we'll take it.
Though I'm sure the rest of Canada will want to kick your ass for giving it away when they're freezing in the dark without all of that lovely Albertan oil.
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."- General Sir Charles Napier
