Prince Harry in costume party unpleasantness

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2005-01-13 07:44pm

HemlockGrey wrote:So, Plenkhov, I take it that you're a republican?

Very much so, is it really that obvious? Just to pre-empt any misunderstanding I'm a republican in the anti hereditary principle sense and not in the US party political sense of the word.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2005-01-13 07:46pm

Joe wrote:I'm not from the UK so maybe I'm just not getting it, but I just don't see why you Brits keep these idiots around anymore.

It saves us having to elect an idiot to the position of head of state like you people have to.

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2005-01-13 07:47pm

Joe wrote:I'm not from the UK so maybe I'm just not getting it, but I just don't see why you Brits keep these idiots around anymore.

Because we always have done ok, not fixing what is very, very broken indeed is a very important principle to many Brits.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2005-01-13 07:49pm

Well, the "best arguement for republicanism" would have been a bit of a giveaway had I seen it, but I just figured that you would be, given your leftist leanings and previously expressed distaste for the royals.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2005-01-13 07:51pm

TheDarkling wrote:
Joe wrote:I'm not from the UK so maybe I'm just not getting it, but I just don't see why you Brits keep these idiots around anymore.
It saves us having to elect an idiot to the position of head of state like you people have to.

But at least we have the variety that comes with electing a different idiot every four years, whereas you're stuck with Liz and Charles, and Charlie could be the poster boy for the anti-inbreeding coalition.

Unless he's a space alien and those ears really mean he's part Ferengi.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2005-01-13 07:52pm

Plekhanov wrote: Because we always have done ok, not fixing what is very, very broken indeed is a very important principle to many Brits.

It isn't broken, the loutish behaviour of the spare hardly constitutes a great problem.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2005-01-13 07:56pm

Who gives a fuck. Its a fucking costume party. Does anyone think that anyone was inspired by Harry to hate Jews and love militarism? Does anyone think Harry hates Jews and loves militarism.

This is just another example of the degenerate UK tabloid press and a brainless kneejerk populace.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2005-01-13 07:56pm

Glocksman wrote: But at least we have the variety that comes with electing a different idiot every four years, whereas you're stuck with Liz and Charles, and Charlie could be the poster boy for the anti-inbreeding coalition.

Hey, his parents are only third cousins.

Unless he's a space alien and those ears really mean he's part Ferengi.

Well he does talk to his plants which is an ability an alien or two have had.

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » 2005-01-13 08:01pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Who gives a fuck. Its a fucking costume party. Does anyone think that anyone was inspired by Harry to hate Jews and love militarism? Does anyone think Harry hates Jews and loves militarism.

This is just another example of the degenerate UK tabloid press and a brainless kneejerk populace.

You think it's just the UK Press? Imagine one of the Bush daughters being photographed with a swastika tattoo (even a temporary one) at a sorority party ....

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2005-01-13 08:01pm

Joe wrote:I'm not from the UK so maybe I'm just not getting it, but I just don't see why you Brits keep these idiots around anymore.

The best arguments I've heard for keeping them are: they're brought up to be heads of state from childhood, and in general, this is a better safeguard against corruption or simply having to elect the least worst of, or giving more power to the prime minister.

sex pistols wrote:'Cause tourists are moneeeeeeey

It's history, therefore something. You're not ashamed of your country's past are you?

Glocksman wrote:But at least we have the variety that comes with electing a different idiot every four years, whereas you're stuck with Liz and Charles, and Charlie could be the poster boy for the anti-inbreeding coalition.

Unless he's a space alien and those ears really mean he's part Ferengi.

Interesting historical FACT: Charles was actually inflated the first 20 years of his life, then suddenly had the air let out of him on his 20th birthday. Then he sort of melted to where he is now. Sure there's no actual evidence to back this up, but it is 100% FACT.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2005-01-13 08:03pm

Interesting historical FACT: Charles was actually inflated the first 20 years of his life, then suddenly had the air let out of him on his 20th birthday. Then he sort of melted to where he is now. Sure there's no actual evidence to back this up, but it is 100% FACT.

Did this come from the LaRouche people*?

*The same ones who claim the Queen heads an international drug smuggling conspiracy.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2005-01-13 08:10pm

Dahak wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:I heard one German guy on BBC News say he'd probably be prosecuted if it was in Germany.
Of course he would.
It's illegal and against the law.

Who gives a flying fuck? That's because the nation of Germany went fucking insane and tried to destroy civilization in Europe. That's about as relevent as saying, "if you took a woman on Miami Beach during Spring Break and transported her to Iran, she'd be arrested or stoned." How is it fucking relevent?

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2005-01-13 08:37pm

Bah, its a shitty costume and im quite sure he knew full well what he was doing. He's an angsty rebellious teen who would only ever become king if Harry and William somehow die which isnt likely and as such he probably doesnt give a fuck what he does.

Im sure he knew and actually wanted this to happen. He probably gets a great kick out the attention he gets from being rebellious and what better way then to be a royal family member getting seen wearing a swastika armband?

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2005-01-14 02:02am

Plekhanov wrote:
Joe wrote:I'm not from the UK so maybe I'm just not getting it, but I just don't see why you Brits keep these idiots around anymore.
Because we always have done ok, not fixing what is very, very broken indeed is a very important principle to many Brits.

I say old chap, you really need to read your Baghot.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2005-01-14 03:41am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Dahak wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:I heard one German guy on BBC News say he'd probably be prosecuted if it was in Germany.
Of course he would.
It's illegal and against the law.
Who gives a flying fuck? That's because the nation of Germany went fucking insane and tried to destroy civilization in Europe. That's about as relevent as saying, "if you took a woman on Miami Beach during Spring Break and transported her to Iran, she'd be arrested or stoned." How is it fucking relevent?

Germany is very sensitive about everything that has to do with that portion of our past.
And there are numerous laws regarding that kind of stuff. Like showing off Nazi symbols.

Questor · Post by **Questor** » 2005-01-14 03:44am

Dahak wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Dahak wrote: Of course he would.
It's illegal and against the law.
Who gives a flying fuck? That's because the nation of Germany went fucking insane and tried to destroy civilization in Europe. That's about as relevent as saying, "if you took a woman on Miami Beach during Spring Break and transported her to Iran, she'd be arrested or stoned." How is it fucking relevent?
Germany is very sensitive about everything that has to do with that portion of our past.
And there are numerous laws regarding that kind of stuff. Like showing off Nazi symbols.

I believe he is asking how those laws are relevant to the UK.

On another note (Split to OSF if you'd like.):

If Dahak were really at the Admiralty house, the Manties wouldn't need the 8th fleet, and the Sollies wouldn't be a threat.

Post by **Coyote** » 2005-01-14 05:19am

While I understand that he's just a teenager and going through rebellious phases, and that this is normal... let's face it, if he were seriously devoted to the Nazi ideology he'd have either done a much better job portraying it or likely not portrayed himself that way at all...

But regardless of how "natural" this may be to a confused angry teen he had to know at some level that this would be received poorly by the media, and the paparazzi would be all over him like stink on shit.

Anyhow, I thought his behavior was what is known as "Yob" over there. Or is that more the pub-brawler type?

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2005-01-14 05:29am

Icehawk wrote:Bah, its a shitty costume and im quite sure he knew full well what he was doing. He's an angsty rebellious teen who would only ever become king if Harry and William somehow die which isnt likely and as such he probably doesnt give a fuck what he does.

Wait...he'll become king only when he and his brother dies?

@ IP: Amen, brother!

The Third Man · Post by **The Third Man** » 2005-01-14 08:15am

Coyote wrote: Anyhow, I thought his behavior was what is known as "Yob" over there. Or is that more the pub-brawler type?

"Yob" would be reasonably accurate I think, or the now-dated term "lager-lout". And technically he is a pub-brawler, the DPP considered prosecuting him for it.

Depends who you ask of course. According to Sandhurst (where the British army trains its officers) he is "officer material", and will in due course be in charge of British soldiers.

Lord Zentei · Post by **Lord Zentei** » 2005-01-14 08:57am

Recent developments:

Linky

It would appear that daddy has more brains after all

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2005-01-14 09:19am

And big brother Willie is saying he was there when Harry picked out the custome and should have stopped him, so he'll go on the trip as well.

Good to see someone taking personal responsiblity

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2005-01-14 09:27am

Jade Falcon wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:For us Americans, what's a chav or townie?
These webpages give good examples of Neds/Chavs/Townies etc

http://+www.chavscum.co.uk/

http://+www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/ (the weapons section is funny)

So......... a chav is a white-trash gangsta-wannabe, with a tricked-out ricer-mobile. And here I thought you Brits had more class than that.....

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2005-01-14 02:58pm

Oh, come on, that's obviously not an SA uniform. A real brownshirt wouldn't be caught dead with his uniform in that condition.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2005-01-14 03:50pm

Rye wrote:
Joe wrote:I'm not from the UK so maybe I'm just not getting it, but I just don't see why you Brits keep these idiots around anymore.
The best arguments I've heard for keeping them are: they're brought up to be heads of state from childhood, and in general, this is a better safeguard against corruption or simply having to elect the least worst of, or giving more power to the prime minister.

This might be worth something if they did more than wave at people occasionally

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2005-01-14 03:52pm

LadyTevar wrote: So......... a chav is a white-trash gangsta-wannabe, with a tricked-out ricer-mobile. And here I thought you Brits had more class than that.....

ricers? No, they have tricked out Vauxhall Novas and Volkwagen GTi's. Largely because they're the only cars a Chav can steal enough money to afford.