It's Official - The Search is Over

[Axis Kast]

The trucks can only be a loose end if there was any evidence they had materials connected to WMDs. There is no such evidence. Ergo, any claim they are relevent in this argument is an appeal to ignorance fallacy. QED, and other high-falutin' talk.

First of all, in the context of this thread, I was responding to Stravo’s claim that no convoys, had, in fact, crossed the Syrian border from Iraq, which was a patently false statement.

Secondly, considering that Iraq once possessed the infrastructure to produce weapons of mass destruction, there was certainly a potential source.

The trucks are a loose end because they represent a location left unchecked.

It's funny as hell how you claim these trucks could, possibly have WMDs. Where would these magic WMDs be from? There's nothing to make them in Iraq. There's nothing to maintain them in Iraq.

Stockpiles.

How about you stop arguing the bullshit on whether or not the trucks were there and instead answer one simple question:

So Fucking What?

Stravo made a false claim.

The fact of the matter is that those trucks did not contain weapons of mass destruction, period. What was in them is irrelevant to any discussion of WMDs in Iraq.

That’s unsubstantiated. You cannot prove your statement any more effectively than I mine.

Kast weapons need infrastructure which the report found no evidence of since 1991. Are you telling me Sadaam magiced up some fucking WMD's and then shipped them off in those trucks? Or will you be even more ridiculous and claim that the trucks also carried all the infrastructure with it as well. A couple of labs, some reactors, maybe a bunsen burner or two?

The trucks only needed to carry what was left of the stockpiles.

What the fuck is it with you people? Bush's own team, which I'm sure had all the incentive in the world to grasp at ANYTHING to justify WMD claims, now say there was NOTHING prior to 1991. Stop it with the fucking trucks its really getting embarassing at this point.

I’m not the one who said they didn’t exist in the first place, Stravo.

[Andrew J.]

The trucks only needed to carry what was left of the stockpiles.

Didn't we find documents proving Saddam destroyed his stockpiles in the nineties?

[Mr Bean]

The trucks only needed to carry what was left of the stockpiles.

Didn't we find documents proving Saddam destroyed his stockpiles in the nineties?

No we have documents listing what was "to be destroyed" and what was listed as "destroyed"

To get his anthrax, cerian and other WMD claims Bush's team mearly went "acutal stockpile minus what is listed as destroyed equals what Saddam has"

[SirNitram]

The trucks can only be a loose end if there was any evidence they had materials connected to WMDs. There is no such evidence. Ergo, any claim they are relevent in this argument is an appeal to ignorance fallacy. QED, and other high-falutin' talk.

First of all, in the context of this thread, I was responding to Stravo’s claim that no convoys, had, in fact, crossed the Syrian border from Iraq, which was a patently false statement.

Then you responded then and can shut the fuck up now as it is now a red herring.

Secondly, considering that Iraq once possessed the infrastructure to produce weapons of mass destruction, there was certainly a potential source.

See, this is the result of Not Knowing What The Fuck You're Talking About. The infrastructure that existed was over ten years ago, well past the storage shelf-life of any of what that infrastructure could build. And since the infrastructure to maintain it was also destroyed, you are still full of shit. Toddle off now.

The trucks are a loose end because they represent a location left unchecked.

They are a complete red herring in the discussion of WMDs and will remain so until even a shred of evidence towards them holding such is presented.

It's funny as hell how you claim these trucks could, possibly have WMDs. Where would these magic WMDs be from? There's nothing to make them in Iraq. There's nothing to maintain them in Iraq.

Stockpiles.

Ten year old stockpiles with no maintenence infrastructure? You're bullshitting, Kast. We saw what remained of 'Stockpiles' from 'When Iraq had infrastructure for WMDs'. A shell that was harmless it was so old.

How about you stop arguing the bullshit on whether or not the trucks were there and instead answer one simple question:

So Fucking What?

Stravo made a false claim.

The fact of the matter is that those trucks did not contain weapons of mass destruction, period. What was in them is irrelevant to any discussion of WMDs in Iraq.

That’s unsubstantiated. You cannot prove your statement any more effectively than I mine.

Ergo Parsimony advocates the removal of extraneous terms: The WMD you claim would be in them. This is called Logic, kid.

[Admiral_K]

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It is hardly baseless. Uday And Qusays penchant for tyranny are well known. Do a google search.

Nobody would deny their penchant for tyranny ... the question is how that constitutes a clear and present danger to the United States. If you're from the House of Saud or the military dictator of Pakistan, we've got no problem with your tyranny, but if you're a Hussein we do? That ain't the test of when we go to war, we go to war to stomp flat somebody who fucked wiith us. If we go around waging war against every jackass with an attitude on the theory that someday they might get a bug up their ass and attack us, we're gonna get a LOT of American kids killed for nothing.

The difference is their hatred towards the United States, and their likely inheritence of Saddam's power and wealth. The combination of which most certainly does create a clear and present danger to the security of the United States.

And make no mistake, that while there were no active WMD programs in Iraq, the personel and the knowledge were still there to reactivate WMD programs once sanctions were lifted and inspectors gone.