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Larz wrote:I never understood why the French Horns were always placed next to the Bassoons and Oboes... wierd...
Fr. Horns are the mellowest of the brass, and they also have the same kind of tone as the bassoons and oboes.
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Larz wrote:I never understood why the French Horns were always placed next to the Bassoons and Oboes... wierd...
neither of which I play. I play bass clarinet and always had the FH beside me.
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Kelly Antilles wrote:
Larz wrote:I never understood why the French Horns were always placed next to the Bassoons and Oboes... wierd...
neither of which I play. I play bass clarinet and always had the FH beside me.
Damn, forgot that one, sorry :oops: ... yeah, the bass clarinet that sat next to me was someone I particularly didn't like... of course the T-bone player on my other side I didn't really like either... and I wonder why I gave up band...
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Larz wrote:Hmm, well, till saturday night I've never really heard French Horn Solo (I went to the new touring show Blast!), but its still a far and few solo
Blast! is some of the coolest shit ever. Love it!!!

And the horn is absolutely one of the most beautiful-sounding instruments. I found it really challenging to play, because all the partials are so close together--you can hit like 203598029481834 notes with one fingering. It sounds purty, though. :)
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Larz wrote: Damn, forgot that one, sorry :oops: ... yeah, the bass clarinet that sat next to me was someone I particularly didn't like... of course the T-bone player on my other side I didn't really like either... and I wonder why I gave up band...
Saxophones were always beside the horns in my bands.
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Larz wrote:Hmm, well, till saturday night I've never really heard French Horn Solo (I went to the new touring show Blast!), but its still a far and few solo
Blast! is some of the coolest shit ever. Love it!!!

And the horn is absolutely one of the most beautiful-sounding instruments. I found it really challenging to play, because all the partials are so close together--you can hit like 203598029481834 notes with one fingering. It sounds purty, though. :)
You've seen blast! its great, I love the two drummers that get into a drumming duel and then it leads to one drum finally... that was awesome! But anyway, the French Horn does get a little complex, not so much the notes but the use of the bell and lip usage...

Kelly: not with our band, of course I was the section so Mr Harris just shoved me there with the other odd insturments (odd as in, only 1-2 people wanted to play them... we did have a crap load of trumpets, corenet, saxaphone, flute, and clarinet players though...)
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Last setup I remember, for the Youth Orchestra:
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Basses | Cellos | violas | v........i.......o.......l.......i......n.......s
Tuba......Horns.......Oboes........Flutes/Piccolos..................Perc
T-Bone.More Horns.....Bassoons.....Bass Clt..Clarinets......Perc
............................Trumpet......................p....e.....r........c......
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I've only written one piece, and it was a drum cadence called Polunochnitsa (I think that's spelled right). It's Russian for "Midnight Demon," my in-joke since I wrote it late at night and it's hard, particularly in its original incarnation where four cymbal players had split sixteenth notes (took those out in the final draft, gave them split eighths). Other than that I've never finished a piece, since I'm not a very good player and usually can't play my own music and don't have a computer program to play it for me.
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Larz wrote:You've seen blast! its great, I love the two drummers that get into a drumming duel and then it leads to one drum finally... that was awesome! But anyway, the French Horn does get a little complex, not so much the notes but the use of the bell and lip usage...
Oh man, I don't know if you saw the same production I did (I saw it back in February in Baltimore), but I was practically in love with the first drummer, the shorter of the two. He kept blowing kisses to the audience in between playing some of the most badass snare shit I have ever heard! It was crazy-good. :D

I can see where the bell-usage could get tricky, but make sure you keep working with that lip usage--that'll pay off with more than just your horn.... :wink:
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The Dark wrote:I've only written one piece, and it was a drum cadence called Polunochnitsa (I think that's spelled right). It's Russian for "Midnight Demon," my in-joke since I wrote it late at night and it's hard, particularly in its original incarnation where four cymbal players had split sixteenth notes (took those out in the final draft, gave them split eighths). Other than that I've never finished a piece, since I'm not a very good player and usually can't play my own music and don't have a computer program to play it for me.
Go to download.com and download NoteWorthy Composer, if nothing else. And damn, I wish Cyrillic would work on this, otherwise I would put that title in Cyrillic for ya.
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Percussion Tympani
3rd Clarinets | Tuba | Euphonium | Trombone
2nd Clarinets | Contra/Bass Clarinet | French Horn | Saxaphones | Trumpets
1st Clarinets | Bassoons | Oboes | Flutes

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Zaia wrote:
Larz wrote:You've seen blast! its great, I love the two drummers that get into a drumming duel and then it leads to one drum finally... that was awesome! But anyway, the French Horn does get a little complex, not so much the notes but the use of the bell and lip usage...
Oh man, I don't know if you saw the same production I did (I saw it back in February in Baltimore), but I was practically in love with the first drummer, the shorter of the two. He kept blowing kisses to the audience in between playing some of the most badass snare shit I have ever heard! It was crazy-good. :D

I can see where the bell-usage could get tricky, but make sure you keep working with that lip usage--that'll pay off with more than just your horn.... :wink:
Don't play the french horn anymore, but I still toot my bugle! And I think where talking about the same scene. It starts out with this short drumber on a snare drum with tied back hair. He does some mad playing, then it moves to a blonde hair dude with a goatie that does some badass playing on a mobile snare. Then they duel comically while drumming. Them a massive number of drummers comeout with white sticks and do a blacklight show and it ends with finalle of a cymbol set coming down and the chain of drums just go wild with bass drums coming out from behind... well, ciao for now
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:D I don't read Cyrillic (yet), I was trying to use the Romanized version of Russian one of my friends developed to help me learn to speak it (that didn't work to well, though).



Our Wind Ensemble was usually set up as follows:


Conductor

Flutes|Oboes|Clarinets
Flutes|Tenor Sax|Bassoon|Bass Clarinet|Clarinet
French Horn|Trombone|CB Clarinet|Bari Sax|Tuba
Trumpets
Percussion

Our other bands moved the Bassoons between the Trombones and the CB Clarinet.
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Zaia wrote:
Larz wrote:You've seen blast! its great, I love the two drummers that get into a drumming duel and then it leads to one drum finally... that was awesome! But anyway, the French Horn does get a little complex, not so much the notes but the use of the bell and lip usage...
Oh man, I don't know if you saw the same production I did (I saw it back in February in Baltimore), but I was practically in love with the first drummer, the shorter of the two. He kept blowing kisses to the audience in between playing some of the most badass snare shit I have ever heard! It was crazy-good. :D
I really liked their version of Malaguena and Bellavia, since I've played both of those as a percussionist (marimba and timpani respectively). We ripped their version of Medea's Dance of Vengeance as a part of our Tribute to Samuel Barber performance, very popular. Blast is one of the greatest groups out there right now. Of course, they should, since they used to be a DCI Drum Corps.
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The Dark wrote: I really liked their version of Malaguena and Bellavia, since I've played both of those as a percussionist (marimba and timpani respectively). We ripped their version of Medea's Dance of Vengeance as a part of our Tribute to Samuel Barber performance, very popular. Blast is one of the greatest groups out there right now. Of course, they should, since they used to be a DCI Drum Corps.
Whoa, DCI??? I've never heard of Blast, but I know my DCI. I LOVE watching a perfected to-the-fore done at the end of Malaguena.
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Kelly Antilles wrote:
The Dark wrote: I really liked their version of Malaguena and Bellavia, since I've played both of those as a percussionist (marimba and timpani respectively). We ripped their version of Medea's Dance of Vengeance as a part of our Tribute to Samuel Barber performance, very popular. Blast is one of the greatest groups out there right now. Of course, they should, since they used to be a DCI Drum Corps.
Whoa, DCI??? I've never heard of Blast, but I know my DCI. I LOVE watching a perfected to-the-fore done at the end of Malaguena.
Blast is made up of the remnants of Star of Indiana plus aged-out DCI members. We used the OLD Madison version of Malaguena ('92?) my sophomore year of HS.
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We played malaguena in our guitar literature class, it was great... we needed to play more flamenco pieces, those are some of the most fun
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The Dark wrote: Blast is made up of the remnants of Star of Indiana plus aged-out DCI members. We used the OLD Madison version of Malaguena ('92?) my sophomore year of HS.
I am definately going to have to see them if they ever come this way.

Madison could always hit Malaguena. Man, I love a good DCI piece of music. Who won this year anyway? I missed it. :(
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Kelly Antilles wrote:
The Dark wrote: Blast is made up of the remnants of Star of Indiana plus aged-out DCI members. We used the OLD Madison version of Malaguena ('92?) my sophomore year of HS.
I am definately going to have to see them if they ever come this way.

Madison could always hit Malaguena. Man, I love a good DCI piece of music. Who won this year anyway? I missed it. :(
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Did Carolina make the top ten this year?
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Kelly Antilles wrote:Did Carolina make the top ten this year?
No, Crown didn't make Finals. Top twelve were:

Cavvies
BD
Cadets
Vanguard
Phantom
Crusaders
Bluecoats
Glassmen
Crossmen
Spirit of JSU(who?)
MoO
Seattle Crusaders(who?)

Crown was 16th, below the Knights, Scouts, and Colts, and above Capital Regiment.
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The Dark wrote:No, Crown didn't make Finals. Top twelve were:

Cavvies
BD
Cadets
Vanguard
Phantom
Crusaders
Bluecoats
Glassmen
Crossmen
Spirit of JSU(who?)
MoO
Seattle Crusaders(who?)
Spirit of JSU made it into the top 10?!?!?! Wow. I went to two drum corps shows this year, Hershey PA & West Chester PA, and JSU was at one of them (don't remember which). Everyone was a bit confused as to who they were and where they came from. I remember them being ok, but I never would have guessed they'd have done that well this year. Good for them.

Cadets had an incredible show this year. (I especially like the stripping part :wink: heh heh). I thought the Cavvies were too formulated, and the Blue Devils show was excellent but wasn't as much fun as the Cadets. If anyone had to have beated the Cadets, it should have been BD, not the goddamn Cavvies. Ugh. :x Bleh.
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Spirit of JSU made it into the top 10?!?!?! Wow. I went to two drum corps shows this year, Hershey PA & West Chester PA, and JSU was at one of them (don't remember which). Everyone was a bit confused as to who they were and where they came from. I remember them being ok, but I never would have guessed they'd have done that well this year. Good for them.

Cadets had an incredible show this year. (I especially like the stripping part :wink: heh heh). I thought the Cavvies were too formulated, and the Blue Devils show was excellent but wasn't as much fun as the Cadets. If anyone had to have beated the Cadets, it should have been BD, not the goddamn Cavvies. Ugh. :x Bleh.
I didn't get to see Finals this year (pulled the list off DCI.org). I've only seen since the year before Scouts did Pirates of Lake Mendota, saw the first two live in the Citrus Bowl :D and the others on TV with the rest of my HS drumline. My favorite shows are still Pirates of Lake Mendota and Niagra Falls. Duelling with sabers on top of a drum rack just earns uber coolness points.
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verilon wrote:Do you ever write music? If so, what kind of music would you classify it as? I consider mine to be somewhat contemporary-classical, if you get what I mean.
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Kelly Antilles wrote:
The Dark wrote: Blast is made up of the remnants of Star of Indiana plus aged-out DCI members. We used the OLD Madison version of Malaguena ('92?) my sophomore year of HS.
I am definately going to have to see them if they ever come this way.

Madison could always hit Malaguena. Man, I love a good DCI piece of music. Who won this year anyway? I missed it. :(
We played Malaguena in high shool. Nineteen eighty fuckin' three...... :( Was in a short lived Drum and Bugle corps called Hollywood Knights in '82.....
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