The Sith on DS9

Steven Snyder · Post by **Steven Snyder** » 2005-01-18 12:17pm

This wsa inspired by another topic that was here...

A Sith Lord has arrived on Deep Space Nine, through the convienent wormhole located nearby. Unaware of his nature, the goody-goody crew of DS9 initiates 'first-contact' protocol and showers the Dark Lord with a typical Federation display of warmth and joy. The Sith Lord, realizing his need for an apprentice to start his bid for control of this galaxy, turns his eye to the residents and crew of DS9 as possible candidates. Assuming that everyone is equal in the eyes of force sensitivity, who do you expect the Sith Lord would recruit?

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2005-01-18 12:37pm

Morn, Darth Morn!

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-01-18 01:10pm

I'm voting Quark! He'd be ass funny as a Sith!

Steven Snyder · Post by **Steven Snyder** » 2005-01-18 02:03pm

I have to cast my own vote for Bashir.

He would be an excellent apprentice for the Sith.

1. He harbors some deeply held feelings about the rest of humanity that has dubbed him a monster because of his gene alteration. The can be used as a wedge by the Sith to turn his loyalties away from the federation.

2. He is a gifted mental and physical specimen, albiet gifted through science and not random chance. He may be the smartest and fastest person on DS9, if his skill with a dart are any indication, his hand-eye coordination is incredible.

3. He is quite well educated having been through medical school and all, he also has knowledge of alien physiology that could be useful.

4. He is a doctor, and people generally trust their doctor with information they wouldn't tell anyone else. Doctors are also associated with pacifists, which would make for an excellent cover.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-01-18 02:05pm

Steven Snyder wrote:*snip*

Good assessment IMO.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2005-01-18 02:22pm

Kira. Given her ability to kick Klingon Ass (pregnant or not

) she would be great in black with a light saber.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-01-18 02:31pm

I would say bashir or Worf the both lot of anger as part of themselves (Bashir due to his gene-enginering and Worf because his a Klingon). (Remember weak apprentice can be a good thing.)

JeanLucPicard · Post by **JeanLucPicard** » 2005-01-18 03:07pm

I say Obrien because of his invaluable technical knowledge. An engineer as good as Miles can give the Sith all the 411 he would ever need about the strengths and weaknesses of Fed vessels. Miles can also fix anything and disable anytthing.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-01-18 03:14pm

I said Kira too. "Give in to your anger..."

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2005-01-18 03:27pm

NecronLord wrote:I said Kira too. "Give in to your anger..."

Or Obrien as JLP said above, but only in the early series days when he was still getting to grips with the remnant feelings from the cardassian war - certainly early season Kira and Obrien would be easiest to turn to the darkside, and maybe sisko would be a good target in the end series when he was prepared to cross lines of morality to win the war for the greater good.

Mind you, I suppose those arent really answering the OP about who would make the best apprentice.

Lord Sander · Post by **Lord Sander** » 2005-01-18 04:32pm

Odo might be cool; physics-defying shapeshifting Force wielder

He already has the urge to bring order to things.. let's bring a Sith Order to things

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-01-18 05:22pm

I seem to recall Kira having difficulty with being on Cardassia right up to the final episodes.

And damn you folks, this thread has the fanfic tendons tensed.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2005-01-18 05:32pm

Garrick. Hands down. Ruthless, cunning, manipulative, strong willed, and willing to commit genocide.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-01-18 05:41pm

The most likely, in this order:
1) Garak, as said above, he is willing to commit Genocide, and is interested in revenge on the Dominion. Revenge + willingness to kill = sithy.

2) Quark. Greedy, treacherous little bugger.

3) Sisko. This will sound weird, but if something threatens the Federation, Sisko will cross the line. Remember what he did to get the Romulans to join the Federation against the Dominion? If the Sith Lord can convince Sisko that he can protect the Federation by coming with him, Sisko would do anything.

DaveJB · Post by **DaveJB** » 2005-01-18 06:35pm

Odo would probably be the most useful, considering how often the Federation has fallen for changeling impersonations. But someone like Kira or Garak would probably be easier to convert.

Jalinth · Post by **Jalinth** » 2005-01-18 06:51pm

Praxis wrote:The most likely, in this order:
1) Garak, as said above, he is willing to commit Genocide, and is interested in revenge on the Dominion. Revenge + willingness to kill = sithy.

2) Quark. Greedy, treacherous little bugger.

3) Sisko. This will sound weird, but if something threatens the Federation, Sisko will cross the line. Remember what he did to get the Romulans to join the Federation against the Dominion? If the Sith Lord can convince Sisko that he can protect the Federation by coming with him, Sisko would do anything.

Garak actually might be very difficult as an apprentice. With him, I'd have to watch my back 24/7 to avoid being backstabbed - its almost second nature to him. He is simply too devious (great character) to be trusted. And the irony of the Sith needing to somewhat trust their apprentice is pretty high.

I'd prefer to turn someone nominally "good" since I could more easily direct their future without worrying whether they are truly "my" apprentice or simply along for the power. Bashir would work. So would Sisko.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2005-01-19 01:32am

Captain Sisko
Constable Odo
Lt. Dax
Lt. Worf
Chief Mile O'Brien
Lt. Julian Bashir
Maj. Kira Nerys
Quark
Jake Sisko

Look at them all:

Captain Sisko?
Possibly. He has that "Do whatever it takes" personality. But he's too old. Plus, he may be too much a Federation ideologue to shake off the conflicting duties to embrace the Dark Side.

Constable Odo?
No, he values Order, but not at the expense of Justice. He would oppose the Sith if possible.

Lt Dax
She's lived too long, seen too many wars, and too much bloodshed to really well... try to embrace the Dark Side. She's too fun loving to really be full of hate and anger.

Lt Worf?
Too stupid.

CPO O'Brien?
Um... what?

CMO Bashir?
A doctor. Wouldn't work. He takes the Hippochratic Oath too seriously, even at the expense of his life he would fight to protect a patient.

Maj. Kira Nerys?
BINGO. Former terrorist, hates the Cardassians, is angered about what they did to her homeworld, fears their return. Can you say "Match made in heaven?"

Quark?
Um... what?

Jake Sisko?
Not a Sith, though a convenient hostage.

Kira fits the Dark Side apprentice motif like a fucking GLOVE.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2005-01-19 01:35am

Praxis wrote:The most likely, in this order:
1) Garak, as said above, he is willing to commit Genocide, and is interested in revenge on the Dominion. Revenge + willingness to kill = sithy.

Possibly.

2) Quark. Greedy, treacherous little bugger.

No way. If anything, he'd be the ST equivalent of the Neimodians. Essentially just another pawn.

3) Sisko. This will sound weird, but if something threatens the Federation, Sisko will cross the line. Remember what he did to get the Romulans to join the Federation against the Dominion? If the Sith Lord can convince Sisko that he can protect the Federation by coming with him, Sisko would do anything.

No, he won't. Because he's not angry, full of hate, or afraid. And he still believes in the Federation and their crazy hippy shit.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2005-01-19 01:39am

Steven Snyder wrote:I have to cast my own vote for Bashir.

He would be an excellent apprentice for the Sith.

1. He harbors some deeply held feelings about the rest of humanity that has dubbed him a monster because of his gene alteration. The can be used as a wedge by the Sith to turn his loyalties away from the federation.

2. He is a gifted mental and physical specimen, albiet gifted through science and not random chance. He may be the smartest and fastest person on DS9, if his skill with a dart are any indication, his hand-eye coordination is incredible.

3. He is quite well educated having been through medical school and all, he also has knowledge of alien physiology that could be useful.

4. He is a doctor, and people generally trust their doctor with information they wouldn't tell anyone else. Doctors are also associated with pacifists, which would make for an excellent cover.

1. Remember Section 31 and their attempts to turn him to 'the dark side' and betray the Federation and his friends? He would have none of it. Sloane even tried that whole "You're gifted; but still cursed" routine. Julian's too smart. And too nice.

2. Yes. But it's irrelevant to the question of becoming a Sith.

3. See 2.

4. See 2.

Guys, to become a Sith you need to embrace the dark side. That means: anger, fear, hatred. Bashir doesn't fall into it.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2005-01-19 01:50am

I vote other, as in. "The Sith butchers every other person on the station and steals a runabout so he can go look for a WORTHY apprentice."

Bellator · Post by **Bellator** » 2005-01-19 07:39am

But he's too old.

Too old? Hell, look at Dooku!

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2005-01-19 07:44am

Bellator wrote:
But he's too old.
Too old? Hell, look at Dooku!

Dooku was already trained. He's refering that Sisko would have to be trained from day 1.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2005-01-19 07:46am

Darth Worf
Because we didnt saw a lightsabre in the shape of a bath'let yet

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2005-01-19 07:52am

I've revised my opinion of Odo: he still won't make a good Sith Apprentice, but he will make an excellent pawn. Kira could be the lever that brings him into the Sith Master's camp. Odo has been shown to work for fascists and communist authoritarians (:)) before, so long as he had full reign of law and order wherever her happened to be stationed (and DS9 was his hunting ground).

Bellator · Post by **Bellator** » 2005-01-19 08:03am

Dooku was already trained. He's refering that Sisko would have to be trained from day 1.

That goes for all characters. Just about all of them are well above 30 (excl. Jake, Nog, etc) and don't have prolonged lifespans (excl. Odo, Dax). If Luke already was too old then most DS9 characters certainly are.

So you'd have to pick between Odo, Nog, Jake and Dax, plus a few semi-regulars perhaps. Possibly Bashir, depending on if his enhancements include a drasticly prolonged lifespan.

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