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Latham quits

Mark Latham has announced he is resigning from the Labor leadership and from Parliament, saying he is too unwell to continue in the job.

"Public office can take it out of people and after 17 years and two serious life-threatening illnesses, the time has come to put my family and my health first," Mr Latham said.

The move puts an end to several weeks of speculation over his leadership, which began after he became ill with a second bout of pancreatitis around Christmas.

Mr Latham says he had planned to reassess his future when he returned from annual leave next week but ongoing speculation was damaging the party.

"In recent days, I have been able to get away, rest and recover and talk to my family about our priorities for the future," he told a media conference in Sydney.

"Our conclusion is that I should look after my health and pursue a normal life outside of politics. Therefore, I have decided to resign both as Labor leader and Member for Werriwa."

Mr Latham says his pancreatitis "and the uncertain timing of the attacks are incompatible with the demands and stresses of a parliamentary life".

"I want to thank the Labor Party for the opportunity of leading it to the last election and trying to form a Labor government," he added. "I hope they achieve this vital goal in the future and I wish them well."

The announcement ends Mr Latham's time as Opposition Leader just more than 12 months after he took on the job.

He had come under severe criticism for failing to make a statement immediately after the Boxing Day tsunami, and senior Labor figures had increased pressure for him to resign.

But Mr Latham says he is proud of his achievements over the past 12 months.

"I'm proud that even from Opposition, we achieved some important reforms in 2004 such as the reform of parliamentary superannuation, changes to the US trade agreement, improved childhood immunisation, the baby-care payment and placing the importance of early childhood development on the national agenda," Mr Latham said.

"I did my bit to lead a genuinely progressive Australian Labor Party.

"I wish to thank the people of Werriwa for giving me the opportunity of representing them since 1994 and putting something back into our local community.

"I also thank the local Labor Party members and particularly my staff who've worked so hard both in the electorate and in Parliament House.

"I again thank the Labor supporters and members who backed our cause in the last campaign and gave me so much encouragement as Labor leader. Thank you all very much," Mr Latham concluded before refusing to answer reporters' questions.
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Beazley ready to lead - again

Kim Beazley has announced he will stand to take back the Labor leadership, vowing he has the "energy and commitment" to unite the party in the wake of Mr Latham's retirement.

Labor's Caucus will meet on January 28 to receive Mr Latham's resignation and to hold a ballot to elect a new leader.

Deputy Labor leader Jenny Macklin says she will not contest the leadership but expects to continue as deputy, while another potential leadership candidate, Kevin Rudd, has said only that he will discuss the leadership with colleagues.

At a press conference a little more than an hour after Mr Latham revealed his decision to stand down, Mr Beazley - who led the party to election defeats in 1998 and 2001 - announced he wanted another shot at the party's top job.

"A lot of people have talked to me about our situation over the last few days and I've been encouraged by those who voted for me in those tumultuous [leadership] ballots a year or so ago," Mr Beazley said, after noting his sadness at Mr Latham's decision.

"There is in the Labor Party a very deep desire for unity. I can bring that with energy and commitment."

Mr Beazley says he is "absolutely fired with ambition for the Australian people, our nation and for the Australian Labor Party".
Next election

He says Labor must put itself in a position to win the next election, something he believes it can do with him as leader.

"We need a strategy to win the next election and the public interest demands that we are the sort of political party that can win that election.

"We need in leadership a great deal of experience with the prudent support of the Australian public.

"It is my conviction that we have in the Labor Party the people and principles that can produce that kind of renaissance.

"I remain supremely optimistic about our party's future and the ability to rebuild again and become the dominant force in politics in this nation."

He added: "There's no doubt in my mind that I can lead a winning team in the next election."
Effective Opposition

Mr Beazley says that even before the next election, Labor has a vital role to play in Opposition.

"This is a Government that has to be rigorously kept to account," he said.

"More than ever, the Australian people will need a vigorous and effective Opposition holding this Government accountable."

Mr Beazley also says he is deeply saddened by Mr Latham's decision and has described him as a man of great talent.

"I've seen Mark Latham's statement and I'm deeply saddened by it," he said.

"He's a bloke with considerable ability, great talent, and it's a shame that his health has meant he is not able to [continue in the job].

"On a personal note, I found working with Mark Latham in the election campaign very enjoyable indeed."
And another one bites the dust...

The nerve of Beazley is incredible. He loses election after election to John Howard, and he STILL sniffs for the top seat. Fuck him. You're a LOSER Kim, no-one wants you. I'd rather have Kevin Rudd take over than give you another shot at the leadership, and fuck up another election for the ALP (though, since I don't vote labor, go right ahead).\

Rudd should contest the leadership. He at least is someone fresh, new, and he looks intelligent (it must be the glasses); Beazley looks like a marshmellow, and a slimy cunt.
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Stark wrote:Here we go again. Can't there be a decent alternative to Little Johnny?
I am genuinely interested in what Kevin Rudd would be like as Labor leader.

But Beazley? Dear god, does Labor WANT to fail?
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Stark wrote:Here we go again. Can't there be a decent alternative to Little Johnny?
Bring back Keating, I say ... 'The recession we had to have!' :lol:

The Federal ALP is just fucked up, we all know that.
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But it's so SAD :(

Isn't Kevin Rudd a Queensland guy? I think I've seen his electoral stuff around here. He rules, if he's the square headed guy I think he is.
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Stark wrote:Here we go again. Can't there be a decent alternative to Little Johnny?
Apparently it is asking to much of the ALP.

The ALPs biggest weakness has always been their domestic economics, they just dont provide and concrete information on what they would do if they were in power. Privatizing the rest of Telstra and such are only single issues, they arent campaign platforms, something the ALP forgets at times.
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What annoys me is that Beasly after loosing the challange against Lathem originaly made all the big speaches abuot how he was now rulling out any future challanges. That the party had spoken and it was time to move on.

You know, I might have actualy GAINED some respect for him for the first time if he had stood up when all this started and said 'Look. I had my time as party leader, we needed to move on then and we still need to move on now'. Instead, as soon as Lathem resigns he jumps up and down shouting 'PICK ME! PICK ME!'

What an idiot.

And what a PACK of idiots. Howard has Inertia on his side and THEN some. You can't have a viable candidate in someone who lost the election, twice, got dethroned and lost another challange. IT WON'T WORK!

But I've long sinced stoped trying to understand the ALP's stupidity.
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So what do people think of Kevin Rudd then? Or that red-haired woman, Julie Gillard (IIRC)? According to the ABC they're the other two considered potential leaders.
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Chris OFarrell wrote:What annoys me is that Beasly after loosing the challange against Lathem originaly made all the big speaches abuot how he was now rulling out any future challanges. That the party had spoken and it was time to move on.

You know, I might have actualy GAINED some respect for him for the first time if he had stood up when all this started and said 'Look. I had my time as party leader, we needed to move on then and we still need to move on now'. Instead, as soon as Lathem resigns he jumps up and down shouting 'PICK ME! PICK ME!'

What an idiot.

And what a PACK of idiots. Howard has Inertia on his side and THEN some. You can't have a viable candidate in someone who lost the election, twice, got dethroned and lost another challange. IT WON'T WORK!

But I've long sinced stoped trying to understand the ALP's stupidity.
Yeah I know, Beasley is starting to sound like that 'KICK IT TO ME! KICK IT TO ME!' add ... as if he wasn't before!
Stofsk wrote:So what do people think of Kevin Rudd then? Or that red-haired woman, Julie Gillard (IIRC)? According to the ABC they're the other two considered potential leaders.
I don't know, I haven't seen him much (well before I left), and Queesland politicians leave a bad taste in the publics mouths ... no offence to our friends up nort! :wink:
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Damnit, someone beat me to it (not surprising as I've been a lazy arse).

But, for the record...

Introducing Australia's next Prime Minister:

Peter Costello.
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Stark wrote:Here we go again. Can't there be a decent alternative to Little Johnny?
Bring back Keating, I say ... 'The recession we had to have!' :lol:

The Federal ALP is just fucked up, we all know that.
Only Federal? It seems all the state ALP parties have been attempting ritual suicide on policy issues recently as well.

As I said at the last federal election. When the ALP loses the militant union vote, you KNOW that they've done something so terribly terribly wrong.

And - as one last nail in the coffin, maybe we'll see the Greens becoming a new opposition party. If we do, I'm moving to somewhere with a more powerful opposition party, like North Korea.
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weemadando wrote:Damnit, someone beat me to it (not surprising as I've been a lazy arse).

But, for the record...

Introducing Australia's next Prime Minister:

Peter Costello.
The only question is how long Howard will stay in for before that happens. The guy has been hinting that he might retire, but obviously keeps forgetting to send in the retirement letter.
weemadando wrote:Only Federal? It seems all the state ALP parties have been attempting ritual suicide on policy issues recently as well.
Amen to that.

WA Labor Party is a joke.
  • Worst water shortages, these were largely expected. However, agricultural industries draw large volumns of drinking water.
  • "property tax" debarkle. This should have killed the guy's political career, Eric Ripper must have a lot of dirt on Labor party members or something.

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    “This tax will be applied at a rate of two per cent on unimproved land worth more than $1 million and indexed annually in line with the Perth CPI – currently three per cent,” Mr Barnett said.

    “Land Values are increasing at a much greater rate than the tax threshold - between nine and 12 per cent, based on valuer general and Real Estate Institute of WA figures. In 79 of Perth’s 224 suburbs, annual growth rates were greater than 9.3 per cent.

    “It therefore stands to reason that the tax will impact on increasing numbers of properties in a variety of suburbs each year as their values rise.”
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    Instead we get a company screaming it needs todo emergency repairs on a gas pipeline, or risk the sucker exploding in the hieght of summer last year. To rub salt into the raw wound; went it was a +40C day and power supply couldnt meet the demand, the government threaten $1000 per individual or $10000 for a company in fines for using an air conditioner... when they could not legally do so.
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  • Education. Apparently public schools have been pressuring poorly performing students not to take TEE(state end of year exams) and cut of a lot of lower achieves(does interesting things to the distribution curves). Make of that what you will.
  • Health care system. Public healthcare has gone down the shitter. Public hospitable are overloaded, literially tens of hospitable beds free at any given time, in a city of over 2 million. Everything else from there on gets worse.

    Some good advice; Dont have a heart attack out of hours. There is a good chance that there isnt anyone onduty trained to properly handle it.
  • 3 times the national average of days on strike
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The ALP still controls most of the states last doesn't it? Its at the Federal level where the problem lies. I am a swinging voter myself and want an alternative to Howard, not a has been.

At least give Kevin Rudd to Julia Gillard to show what they are made of.
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mr friendly guy wrote:The ALP still controls most of the states last doesn't it? .
It looks like WA labor is moving to fix that problem of them being in power...
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Not ONE state can get water management down.

All the major states are starting to have major issues. Syndey of course is fucked, mostly because the major dam (Waragamba) was built through the 1950s-60's for a city population of 2 million. So it would have the reserve capacity for 10 years of drought and so on.

Instead the populations has DOUBLED and not one bit of work has been done on the infastrucutre over the last 5 years when ANY IDIOT COULD SEE THE FUCKING WRITING ON THE WALL.

Hell, just spending the money needed to fix the system so we don't loose the 13% of the water supply Sydney does to leaky pipes and so on would be the easy place to start, but Nooooooo lets just impose water restrictions and massive fines! Much easier, even though its clear its making no impact at all on teh water consumption!

What we NEED to do is:

A. Completly rework the stormwater infastructure, using advanced recycleing technology. Damnit, we INVENTED the stuff Singapore uses to keep its water clean, reusing stormwater and purifying it back to drinking level! We don't even have to go that far, simply pump it all back out for irigation purposes and that would save an enormous amount of water.

B. Build fission powerplants. As in a LOT of them. They can be happily out of the Sydney area if you want, electrical grids can be pluged into them handily through long distance connections. Then use them to power a massive array of desalinisation and pumping plants back out to Waragamba. You can cycle them up and down depending on the weather.

Rinse and repeat for all the other major population centers on the country. Screw you nature and global warming!

But noooooooo. God help us if we actualy used Nuclear power, the safest, cleanest and most energy effecient source in histroy to ensure the long term viability of this country!!!
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[*]Education. Apparently public schools have been pressuring poorly performing students not to take TEE(state end of year exams) and cut of a lot of lower achieves(does interesting things to the distribution curves). Make of that what you will.
Heard about that one as well. I wonder how wide spread it is. On another note my old high school Rossmoyne still kicked arse at least among public schools. :P
ggs wrote: [*]Health care system. Public healthcare has gone down the shitter. Public hospitable are overloaded, literially tens of hospitable beds free at any given time, in a city of over 2 million. Everything else from there on gets worse..
Last year the three major hospitals Sir Charles Gardner, Royal Perth and Fremantle went on bypass. As someone who was working that night in Emergency I saw a huge freaking list of patients needing to be seen. Then I find the next day the Health Minister (McGinty) telling the papers that the bypass was politically motivated. Fuck you McGinty.
ggs wrote:Some good advice; Dont have a heart attack out of hours. There is a good chance that there isnt anyone onduty trained to properly handle it.
Its not that bad. The cardiologist won't be physically there, although they should be willing to take calls. However the Emergency Registrar or the medical registrar should be adequate to the task of managing a heart attack. And there is also someone handling the coronary care unit.

Decisions, decisions. On one hand I have to admit I am not too pleased with the Government's performance. But then on the other hand there is a party who at last election was willing to coddle up to One Nation, and Colin Bartnett also turns out to be a homophobic bigot. And a minor rarely wins a seat in the lower house.

So who am I to vote for. I guess I vote as I usually do. For the party which pisses me off less. :evil:
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mr friendly guy wrote: And a minor rarely wins a seat in the lower house.
Edit : I meant a minor party rarely wins a seat in the lower house.
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Chris OFarrell wrote:But noooooooo. God help us if we actualy used Nuclear power, the safest, cleanest and most energy effecient source in histroy to ensure the long term viability of this country!!!
A-fucking-men.

I heard recently that Sydney's water levels are no longer grim, they're dangerously low, as in "No drinking water" in a couple years time. I also recall that Bob Carr was 'opposed' to Desal plants because of the energy intensive operations they'd entail, and thus the increase in emissions from power plants. I suppose nukular powah is not good enough for our dehydrated country. :roll: Apparently he's authorised construction of a Desal plant recently IIRC, amidst the usual protest. Took him long enough.

Back on topic: does anyone else think Beazley looks like fat, smarmy cunt? Take a look at his face whenever you can: he looks like he's half-sneering all the time. Where's the charisma?
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mr friendly guy wrote:Its not that bad. The cardiologist won't be physically there, although they should be willing to take calls. However the Emergency Registrar or the medical registrar should be adequate to the task of managing a heart attack. And there is also someone handling the coronary care unit.
In Sir Charles Gardner, were my mother works, there was not going to be anyone oncall after hours for cardiology, neurology and one other I cant remember atm. Heck, the stroke unit was going to be shutdown because of this. They managed to get external consulatants to cover their ass till some registrars arrive.

This btw, is not public info.
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[quote="mr friendly guy"]The ALP still controls most of the states last doesn't it? quote]

All of them. Although they won here by a hair's breadth (literally - an ex-liberal independent gave them the deciding vote, and half his electorate was pissed at him. And that was after John Olsen had to resign because he was shovelling money in the wrong directions. Now naturally, they're taking credit for all the good aspects of our economy being back on track, despite the fact that it was the result of the Liberal policies, and Labor were the ones who fucked it up in the first place.

Apparently Mike Rann has gone and made himself popular because of his misinformation campaign regarding the nuclear dump. Here everyone is, going "oooh! nuclear = bad" and they have no clue that the contents of the dump will include the following: irradiated lab coats, former medical isotopes, used smoke alarm batteries... I would quite happily store it under my bed if they paid me. I'd quite happily store it under my bed for free as a stunt, as a matter of fact, but I don't want to have too much clutter hanging around in my room unless it's serving a purpose. In any case, they're suggesting that the safest place on earth to store nuclear waste isn't good enough. I really wish that John Howard hadn't agreed to get rid of the dump for the election, because it would have been hilarious (in my anti-Mike Rann sort of way) to see the public backlash to the bill he passed that couldn't actually stop a nuclear dump from being built in SA, but would stop SA from reaping any of the benefits of said dump.
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The problem with the ALP, is that they are still controlled by the unions (50% stake if I am right), and for fucks sake they are such pussies when dealing with them.

Take Stevie Bracks (God incarnate in Victorian Labor politics, beat Jeffery for crying out loud), he wins if fucking landslides. He sends out a survey form to every houshold, and the ones that reply show their list of what they want to improve. One of them was teaching (which took a beating of the likes Ike used to give Tina under the Kennet government).

So Bracks starts fixing the thing, giving teachers better pay, improving schools, upgrades, etc.

And what does the teacher's union do? It goes on fucking strike, because it wasn't 'enough'!

Oooooh, exccccuuuuuuuuse me you dumb shits. But when Jeffery was slashing schools left, right and centre. When he was increasing class sizes to 30 students (even as high as 40) per class, and fucking you with all your pants still on and telling you to shut up and like it, you all hid in the corner and said; 'Please stop.'

But know that there's a Labor guy in charge, you decide that now is the time to go striking left, right and centre?

:finger: Fucking idiots.
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