Self destruct in SW?

buzz_knox · Post by **buzz_knox** » 2005-01-20 03:03pm

Has there ever been any mention of a ship being scuttled in SW? I can't seem to recall either such an incident or a discussion of when it might happen.

Then again, the only time I can recall ships being captured (the Tantive IV by a Star Destroyer and the Falcon by the Death Star) there were obvious reasons for not considering a self-destruct in those situations.

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2005-01-20 03:30pm

Multiple times in the NJO, Vong vessals would overload their plasma banks to avoid being captured these were mostly Yammosk vessals, so the commanders blew them so that the NR/GFFA could not use a yammosk to experiment new weapons or research upon.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2005-01-20 04:10pm

Well there was an instance in Darksaber when Dalaa (sp; damnit I hate her name) threatened to blow her ISD up and take out some other ships too.

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2005-01-20 04:11pm

ISDs could selfdestruct as of 'Wraith Squadron' but don't have specialised scuttling charge you merely get the computer to detonate all remaining fuels cells ammo mags and generators.

buzz_knox · Post by **buzz_knox** » 2005-01-20 04:13pm

Thank you.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-01-20 04:14pm

In Truce at Bakura, wossisname, the commander in charge of the Carrack-class cruiser, was debating destroying his ship in order to prevent it from falling into Rebel hands when they surrendered the planet to the Rebs; apparently it takes simultaneous depression of two levers, by two different senior officers, to activate the self-destruct on his ship. He was also aware that there would be an Imperial Intelligence spy on the bridge, there to prevent any traitorous action and undoubtedly also to finish the mission or destroy the ship in case of threat of capture.

buzz_knox · Post by **buzz_knox** » 2005-01-20 05:00pm

I wonder what the effect of an ISD self-destruct would be. I haven't read Darksaber in quite a while, but if the intent was to take out other ships, there would have to be a considerable discharge involved.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2005-01-20 06:42pm

buzz_knox wrote:I wonder what the effect of an ISD self-destruct would be. I haven't read Darksaber in quite a while, but if the intent was to take out other ships, there would have to be a considerable discharge involved.

Pg. 81 wrote:[Admiral Daala] noticed that the crimson Victory-class ships had swarmed around them...

Pg. 83 wrote:As [Vice Admiral Pellaeon] brought his fleet closer, weapons ready, but not firing...

Pg. 83 wrote:"Vice Admiral Pellaeon," his navigator said, "perhaps we should back off, if her self-destruct is genuine. If both Star Destroyers blow, we'll be caught in a shockwave and severely damaged, if not destroyed."

Cabwi Desco · Post by **Cabwi Desco** » 2005-01-20 07:04pm

Crazedwraith wrote:ISDs could selfdestruct as of 'Wraith Squadron' but don't have specialised scuttling charge you merely get the computer to detonate all remaining fuels cells ammo mags and generators.

the instance you are looking for is when Trigit set up the self destruct on the Implaceable. what it involves is (i think) overloading the power core for a massive detonation along with all the ammo and such. All it took for that was a voice rec. code and it was all over. It also strikes me that not all vessels have a self destruct, otherwise captain drysso might have just detonated the Luksankya rather than try to immitate intentionally the Executors end.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2005-01-20 07:25pm

Well Daala had complete control (computer wise) of the Firestorm, so she just went to a computer panel and entered a bunch of command codes, then she set the self-destruct. No one else was needed.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2005-01-20 07:33pm

Considering the vast energy contained within an ISD, i wouldn't be surprised if a self-destruct turned out to be on par with a nova or even supernova.

Cabwi Desco · Post by **Cabwi Desco** » 2005-01-21 10:18am

well remember their power cores (solar Ionization reactor) are mini suns. so a mini nova or supernova is almost guaranteed.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2005-01-21 10:21am

Winston Blake wrote:Considering the vast energy contained within an ISD, i wouldn't be surprised if a self-destruct turned out to be on par with a nova or even supernova.

Be a large explosion, but I dunno about novas

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Just a minor rant about sci-fi...Novas are very long term events, I can just see if that was true for an ISD. "Okay...any time now...T-minus 2000 years and counting!!!!"

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-01-21 10:53am

Winston Blake wrote:Considering the vast energy contained within an ISD, i wouldn't be surprised if a self-destruct turned out to be on par with a nova or even supernova.

Hypermatter is non-volitile IIRC.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-01-21 10:55am

Winston Blake wrote:Considering the vast energy contained within an ISD, i wouldn't be surprised if a self-destruct turned out to be on par with a nova or even supernova.

Hypermatter is non-volitile IIRC. Given that escape pods lack FTL, that would be most unwise, as it would fry the escaping crew.

buzz_knox · Post by **buzz_knox** » 2005-01-21 11:03am

Is it confirmed that ISDs use hypermatter? I thought their reactor was described as a solar ionization reactor. Of course, it's been a while since I checked out the ICSs so I could be in error.

buzz_knox · Post by **buzz_knox** » 2005-01-21 11:28am

Well, looks like my supposition about the ICS defining it as a hypermatter reactor was right, at least according to a quick search.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2005-01-22 12:03am

NecronLord wrote:
Winston Blake wrote:Considering the vast energy contained within an ISD, i wouldn't be surprised if a self-destruct turned out to be on par with a nova or even supernova.
Hypermatter is non-volitile IIRC. Given that escape pods lack FTL, that would be most unwise, as it would fry the escaping crew.

Well this is considering a self-destruct (rather than an accident *cough* warpcorebreach *cough*) where the hypermatter and stuff is intentionally exploded.

You've got a point about the escape pods, although they'd probably have SW level armour and shields on them. No doubt an ISD self-destruct can be dialed to whatever yield is appropriate.

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2005-01-22 12:23am

The Lusaynka (sp..) was self destructed (not in the literall sense as ::warning beeps the ship will self destruct in 10.9........) but it was set on a course to hit an enemy ship with only a skeleton crew of droids i think but not sure what book. For some reason the NJO is popping into my head on this one

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2005-01-22 07:27am

Tychu wrote:The Lusaynka (sp..) was self destructed (not in the literall sense as ::warning beeps the ship will self destruct in 10.9........) but it was set on a course to hit an enemy ship with only a skeleton crew of droids i think but not sure what book. For some reason the NJO is popping into my head on this one

NJO: Rebel Stand. And the lusankya and had a central shaft reinforced and filled with explosives.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2005-01-22 07:34am

Crazedwraith wrote:
Tychu wrote:The Lusaynka (sp..) was self destructed (not in the literall sense as ::warning beeps the ship will self destruct in 10.9........) but it was set on a course to hit an enemy ship with only a skeleton crew of droids i think but not sure what book. For some reason the NJO is popping into my head on this one
NJO: Rebel Stand. And the lusankya and had a central shaft reinforced and filled with explosives.

Baiscly the SSD's superstructure wrecked itself on the surface and scattered everywhere while an eight klick long explosive charge was forced (thanks to the SSD's inertia and impact breaching a worldships hull) deep inside a Vong worldship.

Then it was detonated.

KABOOM!

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2005-01-22 01:01pm

Thanks for clearing that up about what book it was in. but there you go Self Destruction at its finest