Wraiths in Washington

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2005-01-22 06:13pm

ok from the past founding fathers, justices, presidents and congressmen, whom would be the most pissed at current events.?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2005-01-22 06:17pm

Jefferson, because we are living in Hamilton's world.

Boyish-Tigerlilly · Post by **Boyish-Tigerlilly** » 2005-01-23 12:43am

Oh come on! Hamilton was the man =D

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2005-01-23 12:46am

Hamilton was a genius, but some of his ideas may not have been the best. He was, after all, rather content with the idea of a Kingdom of America.

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » 2005-01-23 01:00am

Franklin ... I think he'd find out ingratitude to France annoying, never mind the philosophical simplemindedness of the governing elite.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2005-01-23 01:18am

Franklin ... I think he'd find out ingratitude to France annoying, never mind the philosophical simplemindedness of the governing elite

I doubt that. After all the French Monarchy helped us to get back at Britian, not out of the goodness of their hearts. Franklin knew that, afterall he was a realist.

The Freedom Fries thing was real dumb though.

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » 2005-01-23 01:21am

frigidmagi wrote:
Franklin ... I think he'd find out ingratitude to France annoying, never mind the philosophical simplemindedness of the governing elite
I doubt that. After all the French Monarchy helped us to get back at Britian, not out of the goodness of their hearts. Franklin knew that, afterall he was a realist.

The Freedom Fries thing was real dumb though.

He spent some very enjoyable years in France, I suspect he would find the jingoist bashing of the home of some of his favorite philosophy on man and government to be an embarassment to the nation.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2005-01-23 01:25am

Chmee wrote: He spent some very enjoyable years in France, I suspect he would find the jingoist bashing of the home of some of his favorite philosophy on man and government to be an embarassment to the nation.

He had a thing for hairy women?

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » 2005-01-23 01:30am

Knife wrote:
Chmee wrote: He spent some very enjoyable years in France, I suspect he would find the jingoist bashing of the home of some of his favorite philosophy on man and government to be an embarassment to the nation.
He had a thing for hairy women?

I would personally braid Sophie Marceau's pit hair .... if she had any.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2005-01-23 01:31am

He spent some very enjoyable years in France, I suspect he would find the jingoist bashing of the home of some of his favorite philosophy on man and government to be an embarassment to the nation.

France has changed since then, for one thing there's no longer a French King. I think Franklin would be smart enough to realize that 200 odd years does that. No nation is excaltly like it was in the 1700s.

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » 2005-01-23 01:34am

frigidmagi wrote:
He spent some very enjoyable years in France, I suspect he would find the jingoist bashing of the home of some of his favorite philosophy on man and government to be an embarassment to the nation.
France has changed since then, for one thing there's no longer a French King. I think Franklin would be smart enough to realize that 200 odd years does that. No nation is excaltly like it was in the 1700s.

I'm sure he'd feel the same way about us ... I wonder which he'd be offended by more.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2005-01-23 01:40am

Chmee wrote:... I wonder which he'd be offended by more.

Gee, I wonder.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2005-01-23 02:39am

HemlockGrey wrote:Hamilton was a genius, but some of his ideas may not have been the best. He was, after all, rather content with the idea of a Kingdom of America.

True, but we have a strong central government, a strong industrial base, and our foreign policy is largely driven by commerical realism. All Hamiltonian, even if we didn't get the exact government he wanted.

Pick · Post by **Pick** » 2005-01-23 02:50am

Jefferson would cry, methinks.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2005-01-23 02:53am

Pick wrote:Jefferson would cry, methinks.

Jefferson would cry simply because his ideology of the "yeoman farmer" was conclusively destroyed. Of course, that was wrong even when he was writing about it.

Pick · Post by **Pick** » 2005-01-23 03:02am

Master of Ossus wrote:
Pick wrote:Jefferson would cry, methinks.
Jefferson would cry simply because his ideology of the "yeoman farmer" was conclusively destroyed. Of course, that was wrong even when he was writing about it.

And before he wrote about it. Any moment within the timespan of the universe.