Unrealistic Movie/TV Happenings

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-11-12 04:38am

Enlightenment wrote:
Tsyroc wrote:Actually, from what he said I wasn't sure if he meant B5 & Jeremiah had good use of lingo or bad.
The station crew did things differently but from what I remember the conversational style used by the mainline portions of EF certainly seemed to fit into the bootcamp category.

There certainly was an "asshole" factor involved in a lot of the personel not normally attached to the station.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2002-11-12 04:45am

verilon wrote:
Specialist wrote:I hate when woman always have on a blank chest high.
Father forgot stupid 8 year old brat's birthday.
I'm confused by this.....

*pokes the n00b!*

I think the guy's drunk, V......

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2002-11-12 07:25am

You people have already mention most of my peeves, but here's a few others:

1. In every submarine movie there's always the sonar ping, even if said sub isn't doing anything, running silent or patroling. Das Boot, Hunt for the Red October and Crimson Tide excluded.
2. Every "bad" girl is some supermodel with an attitude.
3. Action flicks where the good guy and the girl are being chased around by the bad guys, but they always find time for sex.
4. In the guns department: throwing away empty clips. There's always more, where that came from.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-11-12 07:29am

Stravo wrote:The horribly contrived ways that people get into stupid situations with a killer in slasher/horror movies. I mean c'mon, most people with half a brain could avoid the situations that Michael Meyers, Jason and Freddy use to kill them. Thats just lazy writing.

The formula of action pics last fights. Hero fights villain, villain starts kicking his ass, hero gets a burst of heroic adrenaline, wipes up floor with villain...see Spiderman as a prime example of this in the final fight. Its getting really tiresome. Even worse, Steven Seagal movies where he doesn't even break a sweat in the final fight.

Oohhh I'm parodying that in my new ultra cruel fanfic.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-11-12 07:35am

Darth Wong wrote:100% of Asian men are expert martial artists. Apparently, we're born with the ability.

but it's TRUE it's a genetic ability, next time you get pulled over or whatever. just let go, it'll come

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-11-12 07:38am

Warspite wrote: 4. In the guns department: throwing away empty clips. There's always more, where that came from.

ARRRRGGGGHHHH that pisses me off too. Is it SO much effort to put the clip back in your belt/jacket/miscellaneous clothing?!

THROWING AWAY GUNS

Pet peeve. The Matrix had me spewing. You fucken idiot Neo how many guns did you walk in with- and you had NONE left by the end of it?!

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2002-11-12 08:14am

Vympel wrote:
Warspite wrote: 4. In the guns department: throwing away empty clips. There's always more, where that came from.

ARRRRGGGGHHHH that pisses me off too. Is it SO much effort to put the clip back in your belt/jacket/miscellaneous clothing?!

THROWING AWAY GUNS

Pet peeve. The Matrix had me spewing. You fucken idiot Neo how many guns did you walk in with- and you had NONE left by the end of it?!

Uh the guns in the matrix aren't real anyways

RadiO · Post by **RadiO** » 2002-11-12 08:21am

Films that have a list of military organisations and advisors a mile long in the credits, yet are still utterly unrealistic. Air Force One, for instance, with its physics-defying F-15s and that unintentionally hilarious "I'll save you, sir! AAARRRGGHH!" heroic suicide by an Eagle pilot.

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2002-11-12 09:50am

RadiO wrote:Films that have a list of military organisations and advisors a mile long in the credits, yet are still utterly unrealistic. Air Force One, for instance, with its physics-defying F-15s and that unintentionally hilarious "I'll save you, sir! AAARRRGGHH!" heroic suicide by an Eagle pilot.

The whole dogfight was shit! The F-15 were all lined up, fired at the same time and the russians (or whatever) didn't take any evasive action. And instead of dealing with the fighter's first, then take care of that big blob of IR, they went for the 747, forgeting the F-15's. What kind of fighter pilot ignores an F-15?

Oh, and they all had IR missiles, no radar, right? So the day went to hell when the flares run out...

... The VC-25 (I think is the official denomination) is also equiped with IR jammer's.

Side note: does that rescueing stunt of two planes and a cable really works?

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2002-11-12 10:59am

Whenever the bad guys use machine guns, the bullets *allways* fall a few inches from the good guy's feet. Are they aiming on purpose? Do the good guys have a character shield that deflects the incoming bullets?

Despite bullet energy, the impact either reults into a incredible gimnastic performance (Comando, anyone?) or a brief pause to consider the meaning of life before the final gasp. Have they ever heard the expression : "...like a sack of potatoes"?

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-11-12 11:14am

Pu-239 wrote:
Vympel wrote:
Warspite wrote: 4. In the guns department: throwing away empty clips. There's always more, where that came from.

ARRRRGGGGHHHH that pisses me off too. Is it SO much effort to put the clip back in your belt/jacket/miscellaneous clothing?!

THROWING AWAY GUNS

Pet peeve. The Matrix had me spewing. You fucken idiot Neo how many guns did you walk in with- and you had NONE left by the end of it?!
Uh the guns in the matrix aren't real anyways

Irrelevant. All that firepower LOST. I hate it when people lose a gun. For any reason. It's a contrived bullfuck plot device. No one in their right mind tosses away a weapon in a combat situation.

Dirty Harry · Post by **Dirty Harry** » 2002-11-12 11:28am

I'm suprised no one's mentioned the pistol in each hand thing yet.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2002-11-12 11:32am

quote:

Originally posted by Enlightenment:

quote:

Originally posted by TrailerParkJawa:
Ive noticed the guy who produced B5 and Jerimah on Showtime tends to have military lingo like that.

B5 has an excuse, though, at least as far as EA is concerned. As with real-world military forces operated by fascist states, Earthforce was basically a political tool for EA internal security rather than a tool for war. Political armed forces tend to go in for excessive formality over functionality: making sure that everyone knows their place and will follow official leadership no matter what else happens is far more important than finding reasonable ways to get things done.

Actually, from what he said I wasn't sure if he meant B5 & Jeremiah had good use of lingo or bad. The last example he stated was of more realistic language. I don't recall significant amount of bad military jargin in B5 and I haven't seen Jeremiah so I took his comment about JMS to be in favor of how he writes the military (for the most part).

Sorry if I was unclear. What I meant to say what that I noticed most of the time in a JMS show, the military is portrayed as always yelling like they are in boot camp. Its been a long time since Ive seen B5 and after reading other comments I remember my pet peeve for that show was the episode where they showed ground troops.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-11-12 11:44am

Vympel wrote:
Pu-239 wrote:
Vympel wrote:
ARRRRGGGGHHHH that pisses me off too. Is it SO much effort to put the clip back in your belt/jacket/miscellaneous clothing?!

THROWING AWAY GUNS

Pet peeve. The Matrix had me spewing. You fucken idiot Neo how many guns did you walk in with- and you had NONE left by the end of it?!
Uh the guns in the matrix aren't real anyways
Irrelevant. All that firepower LOST. I hate it when people lose a gun. For any reason. It's a contrived bullfuck plot device. No one in their right mind tosses away a weapon in a combat situation.

Let me see: it's a computer program, they don't have to build the guns, or buy them, they definitely don't have to bring them back when they're done with them, then they got a lot of more guns from the floor that all the dead guards had dropped... he only had three pairs of guns or so, I don't remember him dropping the last gun (he used it on the roof).

Hardly irrelevant. And the entire movie *was* the plot device. Which is the whole damn point.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-11-12 12:06pm

TrailerParkJawa wrote:
Sorry if I was unclear. What I meant to say what that I noticed most of the time in a JMS show, the military is portrayed as always yelling like they are in boot camp. Its been a long time since Ive seen B5 and after reading other comments I remember my pet peeve for that show was the episode where they showed ground troops.

That's the episode Gropos. In most instances in that episode when they actually were speaking in "boot campese" someone was getting reemed for something.

Otherwise I imagine some of the attitude of the military on the show was meant to be like that intentionally to give EA forces more of a hard-ass militaristic feel. They were overcompensating for getting their asses kicked in the Earth-Minbari war.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2002-11-12 11:19pm

Dirty Harry wrote:I'm suprised no one's mentioned the pistol in each hand thing yet.

That's not as bad as that STOOPID crap where some idiot aims a gun SIDEWAYS.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-11-12 11:36pm

JediNeophyte wrote:Or the Nazi planes in Enemy at the Gates, when they strafed the Soviet boat they hit like all the passengers in the neck somehow and left little pinpoint entry wounds. Last time I checked fighters had heavy machine guns and cannons that can take out bombers. Said weaponry would completely dismember a human target.

Be quiet moron.......the JU-87D stuka, which is the plane shown so clearly,
carries only TWO forward firing 7.62mm MGs, which are considered "light"
machine guns compared to american .50 cal (12.7mm) MGs...

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2002-11-13 01:18am

Another annoyance: Ultra-super-magical-uber guns, that can hit anything if the user's character shield is powerful enough. Like in Enemy at the Gates, the Nazi sniper guy shot a moving string at long range. What. The. Holy. Fuck. Impossible.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-11-13 01:26am

JediNeophyte wrote:Another annoyance: Ultra-super-magical-uber guns, that can hit anything if the user's character shield is powerful enough. Like in Enemy at the Gates, the Nazi sniper guy shot a moving string at long range. What. The. Holy. Fuck. Impossible.

Actually, I think it was from under 100 yards...

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2002-11-13 01:28am

MKSheppard wrote:
JediNeophyte wrote:Another annoyance: Ultra-super-magical-uber guns, that can hit anything if the user's character shield is powerful enough. Like in Enemy at the Gates, the Nazi sniper guy shot a moving string at long range. What. The. Holy. Fuck. Impossible.
Actually, I think it was from under 100 yards...

Well, I saw it a while ago so my memory of it is a bit fuzzy...
But it still doesn't change the fact that its near-impossible to hit a moving string with a rifle.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2002-11-13 02:09am

I think the portrayal of computers is really bad in a lot of shows.

According to the movies every computer in the world is connected to every other computer, and you can delete hard copy records with a computer.

Lord_Xerxes · Post by **Lord_Xerxes** » 2002-11-13 02:48am

If you want to talk about a specific movie, one of the major things I couldn't stand about the Scorpion King (besides The Rock, and several other parts of the movie, including the absolute shit dialogue he has- Rock comes leaping into a enemy assassin camp to rescue his brother or something and all he says is "Boo." Everyone freaks out. Or perhaps when the other guy asks him "Will you stand before the fury of his armies?" and Rock answers only with "Yes.")

is the fact that at the end of the movie, Rock gets hit in the back with an arrow. And what does he do? He rips it out, and shoots it at someone. And The Rock lives. Hello? You can't rip an arrow out, it's designed that if a person/animal tries to, it shreds the artery/ies and they bleed to death. You have to push an arrow through and cauterize the wound. But does the Rock do this? No. And he's fine the next scenes.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-13 11:24am

What about the beginning. The Rock shoots guys with arrows and they go flying through the wall and then continue flying.

Lord_Xerxes · Post by **Lord_Xerxes** » 2002-11-13 01:42pm

Yeah, that was unrealisitc too.

oberon · Post by **oberon** » 2002-11-13 04:04pm

JediNeophyte wrote:
The Dark wrote: I'll agree with the sniper, but the Captain could have already had a round chambered in the M1911, which would have left one after firing seven rounds.
Possible, but unlikely.

Why would that be unlikely? If you carry an auto, it's the most common thing in the world to chamber a round and load up a full clip. If someone does that in peacetime, why is it hard to believe that they would do it in war?