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Actually...*slowly smiles*Perinquus wrote:As tharkûn said, why is it unreasonable to ask a person to do what they say?
That is the most pathetic post I've ever seen. "My hero just crashed and burned, and everyone pointed and laughed at him. Let me construct a massive strawman and pretend as if I've saved him."Andrew J. wrote:Actually...*slowly smiles*Perinquus wrote:As tharkûn said, why is it unreasonable to ask a person to do what they say?
You're right. That kind of hypocrisy is terrible. This is the reason why handguns should be legal, everyone that opposes them are horrible liars, and that's a Very Bad Thing.
Heh, heh, heh...
Of course some, if not most given the wages, of us rent a cops just do it for a job, and sure as hell dont want to be cops, so kindly keep your uninformed genralisations to yourself.Perinquus wrote:. They have all of 3 days to two weeks formal training, and they are rent-a-cops becaus they are not good enough to be real cops.
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So? I've already shown that he has had bodyguards that were armed while they were guarding him. The point is not that this particular man was armed, or whether he happened to be guarding Michael Moore at the time. Rather, the point is that Michael Moore enjoys the protection afforded by firearms--the same protection that he wants to remove from other people. That fact that this came out due to Mr. Burke's arrest is only tangential to the point of the thread--Moore's hypocrisy.MRDOD wrote:Linkage
According to this, the guard was no longer in Moore's employ at the time. The weapon was unloaded and locked, but Burk didn't have a liscense for NYC.
Considering it's admitted by an Anti-Moore website...
I have committed upon my learning of the issue years ago and to this day remain neutral to Gun Control- my entrance into this discussion would do more damage to my side than to my opponent's.Master of Ossus wrote:So? I've already shown that he has had bodyguards that were armed while they were guarding him. The point is not that this particular man was armed, or whether he happened to be guarding Michael Moore at the time. Rather, the point is that Michael Moore enjoys the protection afforded by firearms--the same protection that he wants to remove from other people. That fact that this came out due to Mr. Burke's arrest is only tangential to the point of the thread--Moore's hypocrisy.MRDOD wrote:Linkage
According to this, the guard was no longer in Moore's employ at the time. The weapon was unloaded and locked, but Burk didn't have a liscense for NYC.
Considering it's admitted by an Anti-Moore website...
Fair enough.MRDOD wrote:Rather, I was just adding a new source that I had not seen mentioned before that I felt was applicable. Make what you will of it.
No, I remain firm in my opinion, and I will vocalize it freely whenever I take the notion. My job brings me into contact with security guards on a not infrequent basis, and I've seen enough of them to know that in the vast majority of cases my contempt for them is fully justified. When I see a damn rent-a-cop trying to act like he's on a bloody S.W.A.T. team, right down to wearing BDUs and a tactical thigh holster, so he can guard a fucking hotel lobby...Stuart Mackey wrote:Of course some, if not most given the wages, of us rent a cops just do it for a job, and sure as hell dont want to be cops, so kindly keep your uninformed genralisations to yourself.Perinquus wrote:. They have all of 3 days to two weeks formal training, and they are rent-a-cops becaus they are not good enough to be real cops.
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I have a damn good reason for thinking he's a wannabe. When I see a 5'2" female security guard who weighs 350 pounds if she weighs an ounce, I have a damn good reason to think she's an unfit slob. When I see a guy with visible rust caked on the sights of his holstered gun, I have a damn good reason for thinking he's a worthless slug. And when I see a guard overreact, and jerk an unarmed man out of a vehicle at gunpoint, simply because the man called him a name (and thereby get himself, his security company, and the store who hired the company sued), I have damn good reason for thinking he's a fucking idiot who should never have been given a cap pistol, let alone a loaded firearm. I've dealt with dozens of security guards over the years. So far I've seen exactly two who did not prove themselves to be incompetent idiots. Oh, I will grant you that there are a huge swathe of knuckle dragging morons in security, {I can see from your post that there are some distinct similarities over there compared to over here} and I have encontered my fair share of them, down to the none to clean combat boots, but I have also encontered their kind in the police as well..albeit better trained and dressed. Some of us can and do act professionally and even dress appropriatly, but please dont assume that all security guards are like the stereotype, because we are not.Perinquus wrote: No, I remain firm in my opinion, and I will vocalize it freely whenever I take the notion. My job brings me into contact with security guards on a not infrequent basis, and I've seen enough of them to know that in the vast majority of cases my contempt for them is fully justified. When I see a damn rent-a-cop trying to act like he's on a bloody S.W.A.T. team, right down to wearing BDUs and a tactical thigh holster, so he can guard a fucking hotel lobby...
It's hardly my fault if you chose a profession so low in prestige, and so full of oxygen thieves, so don't be surprised at hearing it insulted. Don't be surprised to find yourself a victim of guilt by association either. Maybe you're one of the small percentage of competent ones. I don't know. But you're not about to change my opinion of rent-a-cops; I've seen too many of your colleagues in action.
