Mordor's armies vs. Dragonarmie's Forces of dragonlance

jodathalas · Post by **jodathalas** » 2002-11-05 04:28pm

Lets see where this one goes. All out, methinks the Dragonarmies would win due to the arrial superiority of the dragons. Plus the undenied fact that the magic-users are stronger than even surumon. The forces of draconians are huge enough to nearly defeat the Solamnic knights.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-11-05 04:31pm

thanks for bringing this thread back to life, my original thread was badly ignored.

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » 2002-11-05 04:59pm

Dragonarmies vs the Hordes of Mordor...

Assuming we leave Sauron and the Nazgul out of it, yeah, its a wash for the side with all the Dragons.

Now, if you want some evile fun...

Dragonarmies vs the Armies of Morgoth.

You know, Dragons with names like Ancalagon who wreck medium-sized mountains when they fall on them. Balrogs. So many Balrogs they have their own chain of command.

And yeah, a whole, whole lotta orcs.

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2002-11-06 10:07am

Marcus wrote:Dragonarmies vs the Hordes of Mordor...

Assuming we leave Sauron and the Nazgul out of it, yeah, its a wash for the side with all the Dragons.

Now, if you want some evile fun...

Dragonarmies vs the Armies of Morgoth.

You know, Dragons with names like Ancalagon who wreck medium-sized mountains when they fall on them. Balrogs. So many Balrogs they have their own chain of command.

And yeah, a whole, whole lotta orcs.

Hmm IMO Draconians are vastly superior troops to Orcs..

CJvR · Post by **CJvR** » 2002-11-06 01:08pm

Hmm IMO Draconians are vastly superior troops to Orcs..

Yeah, but the Orcs were only arrow fodder in the armies of Angband. The true strenght of those armies rested with the Gothmog's Balrogs, the great Wyrms of Glaurung and the flying dragons under Ancalagon the Black, who almost defeated the armies of Valinor.

Trust me, orcs would be the least problem here.

jodathalas · Post by **jodathalas** » 2002-11-06 01:56pm

starfury wrote:thanks for bringing this thread back to life, my original thread was badly ignored.

Have you done this thread before? Hehe. Anyways, If you put balrogs and crap in there it would cause some problems for the dragonarmies. But, the dragonarmies would still have superior magic-users comparing. And i suppose dragons of that size would cause a significant problem, but i think a group of dragons from the dragonarmies all focusing their breath weapons at the face of the huge dragons would take care of it. The velociraptor hunted animals larger than itself but managed because they hunted in groups. Draconians have the uper hand advantage over orcs cause they are quicker, smaller, more intelligent, and each race of draconian has its own special properties, i.e. Bozaks are strongest with magic.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-11-06 05:09pm

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=5182

here is the original thread, no responses

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-11-06 05:13pm

also some of the Dragonarmies's dragons were still quite large, they never reached the size of the great dragons of the fifth age or Glaurung and Ancalagon the Black, but some like skie and Tombfyre were still much larger and stronger then normal dragons. Tombfyre after all was descended from the first krynnish red dragon furyion and survived from Huma's war so he must be quite impressive.

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2002-11-06 05:55pm

quicker, smaller, more intelligent, and each race of draconian has its own special properties, i.e. Bozaks are strongest with magic.

Not really, Bozaks were great organisers and very intelligent, they did have inherent magical abilities, but that wasnt their prime function, Bozaks made good subleaders, I say subleaders because the Draconians were considered stupid and throwaway troops.

Auraks were the real magic users, and were on average extremely powerful, more than a match for a human magic user of equal level, and they also have several inherent abilitys that make them even more formidable..

Believe me, it will be extremely unfortunate for anything that kills an Aurak!

It should be mentioned that Skie is actually an Alien Dragon

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-11-06 06:36pm

weren't sivaks the real warriors of the Draconians, they were the second-in-command and second to auraks, the sivaks having a more warrior bent to them.

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2002-11-07 11:00am

starfury wrote:weren't sivaks the real warriors of the Draconians, they were the second-in-command and second to auraks, the sivaks having a more warrior bent to them.

In the Dragon Armies the Draconians rarely had command, they were usually Subordinate to a human..

A good example of a competant Draconian team is that of Kangs Engineers..

Kang was a Bozak Draconian, and used spells, but was vastly more comfortable using his brain and his skills.

His second in command, Slith, was a Sivak, and second in command, extremely competant, good at covert work due to his Sivak abilitys etc.

Baaz were basic troopers, but some still held rank, along with Kapak, who were purely fighters..since they were too thick for enginnering work.

Auraks were usually "special" troops, etc, or assassins and covert ops guys. there wernet that many, but certainly enough to form the basic troops of the Red Wing under the command of Lord Ariakas.

jodathalas · Post by **jodathalas** » 2002-11-07 03:27pm

And then, when the draconians are stronger then then orcs, the dragons can inflict the paralizing dragonfear making the battle easier for the dragonarmies. Especially dragons like Khellenros and Skie. And the knights of Neraka would probably help out with the fight cause they are evil as well, and that would almost certainly win the battle. So organized and honorable with an evil streak in them.

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2002-11-08 06:43am

jodathalas wrote:And then, when the draconians are stronger then then orcs, the dragons can inflict the paralizing dragonfear making the battle easier for the dragonarmies. Especially dragons like Khellenros and Skie. And the knights of Neraka would probably help out with the fight cause they are evil as well, and that would almost certainly win the battle. So organized and honorable with an evil streak in them.

I hate to tell you this..

But Khellandros, the "Storm over Krynn" is the same dragon as Skie....hes just been fucking around on other planes and is an alien dragon..

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-11-08 10:54am

what about Tombfyre, he seems to be quite large and is a "Krynnish dragon" not these alien arrivals like Mayls.

I keep hearing of the age of the largest dragons on Krynn pre-fifth age to be (legendary wyerm) and (anicent wyerm), just how large can native ansalon dragons grow, the originial 10 ten dragons all fit the first catagory.

jodathalas · Post by **jodathalas** » 2002-11-08 06:38pm

I seeee. But isnt khellendros red or does this have to do with the whole consuming other dragons for power thingy?

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-11-08 06:45pm

http://www.dragonsrun.net/nexdragons.html

seeee. But isnt khellendros red or does this have to do with the whole consuming other dragons for power thingy

this site has some info for the 2 age catagories of very large dragons.

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2002-11-08 06:47pm

jodathalas wrote:I seeee. But isnt khellendros red or does this have to do with the whole consuming other dragons for power thingy?

Nope Malystryx is the Red alien Dragon..

I keep hearing of the age of the largest dragons on Krynn pre-fifth age to be (legendary wyerm) and (anicent wyerm), just how large can native ansalon dragons grow, the originial 10 ten dragons all fit the first catagory.

I think...note this is rough memory...that Malystryx, when she first appeared, was around 300-400 ft long, and she fought a Krynnish Red Dragon of similiar size..

I still think Furion would have bitchslapped Malys though..

jodathalas · Post by **jodathalas** » 2002-11-11 01:58pm

Ok, i knew that

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-11-11 02:27pm

Also Cyan Bloodbanes' spell casting capabilities are not to be ignored(freaky illusions of doom)

jodathalas · Post by **jodathalas** » 2002-11-11 10:13pm

But wasnt cyan bloodbane killed by raistlin?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-11-11 11:25pm

Are you refering to Dragons of Winter Night? If so, no. he is still around

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-11-12 02:18pm

Cyan bloodbane was killed in dragons of the crystal star, during the fifth age, so magic-using greens like him casting their spells wil still be in the dragonarmies forces, mainly Lucien's green dragonarmy as I recall.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-11-12 11:16pm

I have only read the chronicles and Draconian Measures. How was he killed?

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-11-12 11:19pm

I can't spell the name of the elven nation, but he built a barrier to protect the elven home, but was found out and killed, disgused himself as a elf.

Beryl the big green dragon was also killed, by elven archers, after Takkisis used a spell to aid them in holding her in place.

2 greens falling in one book, impressive

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-11-12 11:21pm

Greens are my favorite evil dragons too.