Does anyone have any information on 29th century ships?

Darth Balls · Post by **Darth Balls** » 2002-11-10 11:12am

Some Trek guy tried saying that 29th century ships could beat anything Star Wars has to offer, does anyone have any information to prove this to be untrue?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-10 11:29am

He smoking he's probably using the "Time Travel" cop out or just smoking, There have been 29th and 31st Century ships fough by 23rd and 24th Century Federation ships and they lost

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-11-10 12:20pm

yes it sounds like they are pulling thier Time Travel "magic bullet" again

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-10 03:13pm

They could probably put up a slightly better fight. Keep in mind Star Wars is still 25 millenia ahead of Star Trek. They lose still, and badly.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-11-10 04:34pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:They could probably put up a slightly better fight. Keep in mind Star Wars is still 25 millenia ahead of Star Trek. They lose still, and badly.

If you want to use age as the claim for capability then that would mean anyone older then Star Wars should beat them.

Time in space is not a proper way to compare capabilities.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-11-10 04:58pm

Uh...I'm pretty sure most cultures older than Star Wars COULD beat it...

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-10 05:03pm

Asimov's Foundationverse is less than 25 thousand years old, is it? And isn't the Culture the same way as well?

If so, then length of existence doesn't equal power.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-10 06:57pm

Well thank you for pointing out the obvious. You going to claim that time matters nothing? It's an important indicator and predictor of abilities, but by no means does it have to confine to that rule always. Everything isn't black and white people.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-10 07:03pm

Asimov's Foundationverse is less than 25 thousand years old, is it? And isn't the Culture the same way as well?

Acutal The Empire was 40k Years+ just by itself

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-10 07:48pm

Mr Bean wrote:
Asimov's Foundationverse is less than 25 thousand years old, is it? And isn't the Culture the same way as well?
Acutal The Empire was 40k Years+ just by itself

KABOOOOOM

*That is the sound of Shinova's head impacting his desk*

*There are banners waving in the air with the words "I concede" on them*

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-12 05:30pm

Darth Balls wrote:Some Trek guy tried saying that 29th century ships could beat anything Star Wars has to offer, does anyone have any information to prove this to be untrue?

He's wrong. Their observed capabilities are laughable. The ones that we've seen in action have a disturbing tendency of losing to 24th century Trek ships.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-11-12 05:43pm

I seriously doubt that 500 years would really make that much of a difference.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2002-11-12 05:49pm

Tell that to Colombus from the deck of a nuclear powered aircraft carrier.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-11-12 05:50pm

Wrong technological time scale.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-12 06:29pm

Cyril wrote:Uh...I'm pretty sure most cultures older than Star Wars COULD beat it...

Vorlons and Shadows?

On topic, we know they can travle time reliably with Time Shuttles, and that if there is a major engine malfunction while trying to time travel the released energy wipes out a solar system. Other then that, not much to go on.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-11-12 07:12pm

Vorlons and Shadows?

Vorlons and Shadows are much older then SW, but they are outclassed even by the 24th century federation.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-12 07:15pm

starfury wrote:
Vorlons and Shadows?
Vorlons and Shadows are much older then SW, but they are outclassed even by the 24th century federation.

Not really. The SF lack of industrial capacity again hurts them when compared with other sci-fi races. I think the Vorlons and Shadows have a chance. Besides, they can PK, even if not a total shattering. That is beyond the observed ST firepower levels. I consider the Vorlons and Shadows to be about comparable with SF, with the result debateable.

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Does anyone have any information on 29th century ships?

Does anyone have any information on 29th century ships?

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