And now for something completely different
Moderator: Vympel
- Col. Crackpot
- That Obnoxious Guy
- Posts: 10228
- Joined: 2002-10-28 05:04pm
- Location: Rhode Island
- Contact:
And now for something completely different
Don't get me wrong, there are many more trek vs wars to be fought. But for a moment, let us digress. We are running dangerously close to turning trek vs. wars into...shall we say...old hat. To keep that from becoming reality lets focus briefly, at least partially, on something diferent. Perhaps this debate has raged before, but i'm a newbe, i'm allowed to be ignorant for a while. I would like to know what everyone would think about a balls to the wall slugfest between an Imperial task force....say half a dozen ISD II's vs an equal number of those nasty looking Shadow crab ships from Babylon 5. Anyone care to shae thoughts?
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.” -Tom Clancy
- Col. Crackpot
- That Obnoxious Guy
- Posts: 10228
- Joined: 2002-10-28 05:04pm
- Location: Rhode Island
- Contact:
well no shit
but i really don't think it would be as easy as anything from the Trek universe. I think its safe to say that the Shadows are the only real threat to the empire in the entire realm of sci-fiCommander LeoRo wrote:The ISD's win.
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.” -Tom Clancy
- DocHorror
- Rabid Monkey
- Posts: 1937
- Joined: 2002-09-11 10:04am
- Location: Fuck knows. I've been killed again, ain't I?
- Contact:
There are a lot worse things out there than the Shadows...I think its safe to say that the Shadows are the only real threat to the empire in the entire realm of sci-fi
The Tyranids (imo) would do more damage than the Shadow, and thats just my opinion...
There are lots of sci-fi races that would kick the Empire's ass...
The shadows shit themselves when Sheridan nuked their home planet...hardly a trait Id attribute to an all-powerful-ISD-blitzing-race...
(yes I know the Empire would probably be messed up if Courscant went bang, but it just seemed weak to me)
- Warspite
- Jedi Council Member
- Posts: 1970
- Joined: 2002-11-10 11:28am
- Location: Somewhere under a rock
The Shadows are vulnerable to psi powers, anyone with Force powers will disrupt the link between the ship and the "brain".
From babtech-onthe.net, they say Shadow shield hava maximum output of 60 Mtons. Well, if ISD HTL can do 200 Gtons...
From babtech-onthe.net, they say Shadow shield hava maximum output of 60 Mtons. Well, if ISD HTL can do 200 Gtons...
[img=left]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ ... iggado.jpg[/img] "You know, it's odd; practically everything that's happened on any of the inhabited planets has happened on Terra before the first spaceship." -- Space Viking
With or without the diffusers?Warspite wrote:The Shadows are vulnerable to psi powers, anyone with Force powers will disrupt the link between the ship and the "brain".
From babtech-onthe.net, they say Shadow shield hava maximum output of 60 Mtons. Well, if ISD HTL can do 200 Gtons...
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken --Tyler Durden, Fight Club
"Nothing, in religion or science, or philosophy . . .is more than the proper thing to wear, for a while." -- Charles Fort
"Evolution keeps bumping upward to new levels of creativity and surprise. We're her latest gizmos, her latest toys. Our mission, should we choose to accept it, is to throw ourselves with all our might and mane into what the universe will do with us or without us--creating new forms, new flows, new ways of being, new ways of seeing." -- Howard Bloom
"Nothing, in religion or science, or philosophy . . .is more than the proper thing to wear, for a while." -- Charles Fort
"Evolution keeps bumping upward to new levels of creativity and surprise. We're her latest gizmos, her latest toys. Our mission, should we choose to accept it, is to throw ourselves with all our might and mane into what the universe will do with us or without us--creating new forms, new flows, new ways of being, new ways of seeing." -- Howard Bloom
- Warspite
- Jedi Council Member
- Posts: 1970
- Joined: 2002-11-10 11:28am
- Location: Somewhere under a rock
I don't know, the calculations are made for the episode "Army of Light".pecker wrote:With or without the diffusers?Warspite wrote:The Shadows are vulnerable to psi powers, anyone with Force powers will disrupt the link between the ship and the "brain".
From babtech-onthe.net, they say Shadow shield hava maximum output of 60 Mtons. Well, if ISD HTL can do 200 Gtons...
[img=left]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ ... iggado.jpg[/img] "You know, it's odd; practically everything that's happened on any of the inhabited planets has happened on Terra before the first spaceship." -- Space Viking
- Slartibartfast
- Emperor's Hand
- Posts: 6730
- Joined: 2002-09-10 05:35pm
- Location: Where The Sea Meets The Sky
- Contact:
You know, there's a forum called "Other Sci-Fi" where there are a lot of debates of SW vs B5. The reason this forum might seem too stale to you, because everything is about Star Wars vs Star Trek is because the forum is called "Star Wars vs Star Trek". So just go over the forum index and try clicking on the other link, if you get bored of the old hat.
Those are Medium guns not Heavy GunsFrom babtech-onthe.net, they say Shadow shield hava maximum output of 60 Mtons. Well, if ISD HTL can do 200 Gtons...
Yes we don't know what the Heavy or Light Weapons on a ISD are but we DO know the Mediums of a twenty year old Transport are over 200 Gigatons each and able to fire one every 2 seconds
"A cult is a religion with no political power." -Tom Wolfe
Pardon me for sounding like a dick, but I'm playing the tiniest violin in the world right now-Dalton
- Warspite
- Jedi Council Member
- Posts: 1970
- Joined: 2002-11-10 11:28am
- Location: Somewhere under a rock
Ah, sorry, my mistake... BTW, your sig, which episode does it come from? I remember Black Adder saying it, but I can't remenber which episode.Mr Bean wrote:Those are Medium guns not Heavy GunsFrom babtech-onthe.net, they say Shadow shield hava maximum output of 60 Mtons. Well, if ISD HTL can do 200 Gtons...
Yes we don't know what the Heavy or Light Weapons on a ISD are but we DO know the Mediums of a twenty year old Transport are over 200 Gigatons each and able to fire one every 2 seconds
[img=left]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ ... iggado.jpg[/img] "You know, it's odd; practically everything that's happened on any of the inhabited planets has happened on Terra before the first spaceship." -- Space Viking
Niether he said it in 97 to a reporter however I MYSELF said it at the tender age of eight some years beforeBTW, your sig, which episode does it come from? I remember Black Adder saying it, but I can't remenber which episode
"A cult is a religion with no political power." -Tom Wolfe
Pardon me for sounding like a dick, but I'm playing the tiniest violin in the world right now-Dalton
- Warspite
- Jedi Council Member
- Posts: 1970
- Joined: 2002-11-10 11:28am
- Location: Somewhere under a rock
I had the impression it was when he was hearing some plan by Baldrick and then Stephen Fry, or someone else, said the same plan. I'm almost certain that came from the series, of course he could have used it afterwards. Anyway, wise words... Oh, wait...Mr Bean wrote:Niether he said it in 97 to a reporter however I MYSELF said it at the tender age of eight some years beforeBTW, your sig, which episode does it come from? I remember Black Adder saying it, but I can't remenber which episode
[img=left]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ ... iggado.jpg[/img] "You know, it's odd; practically everything that's happened on any of the inhabited planets has happened on Terra before the first spaceship." -- Space Viking
- Master of Ossus
- Darkest Knight
- Posts: 18213
- Joined: 2002-07-11 01:35am
- Location: California
Guys, the observed firepower of an SPK is equivalent (at best) to an ISD. How the hell can a battlecrab stand a chance against them, one on one?
"Sometimes I think you WANT us to fail." "Shut up, just shut up!" -Two Guys from Kabul
Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner
"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000
"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."
Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner
"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000
"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."
- Spanky The Dolphin
- Mammy Two-Shoes
- Posts: 30776
- Joined: 2002-07-05 05:45pm
- Location: Reykjavík, Iceland (not really)
Re: well no shit
Bolding Mine.Col. Crackpot wrote:but i really don't think it would be as easy as anything from the Trek universe. I think its safe to say that the Shadows are the only real threat to the empire in the entire realm of sci-fiCommander LeoRo wrote:The ISD's win.
You haven't read/seen much science fiction, have you?
There are many universes that would wipe the floor with the Empire.
Hell, I think even the OVA and TV1 Tenchi Muyo! universes might even be able to take on the Empire.
I believe in a sign of Zeta.
[BOTM|WG|JL|Mecha Maniacs|Pax Cybertronia|Veteran of the Psychic Wars|Eva Expert]
"And besides, who cares if a monster destroys Australia?"