Official State of the Union Commentary Thread

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2005-02-02 09:48pm

Uh oh, we're invading Syria.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2005-02-02 09:48pm

Durandal wrote:Wait, so we don't have a right or desire to force democracy on anyone ... but we're going to build governments that "answer to their people"? Is he fucking for real? A government that answers to its people is a democracy.

Not nessicarily. It could "answer to it's people" by telling them to fuck off whenever they make a suggestion on how to do things...

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2005-02-02 09:48pm

Did he just hold egypt up as a shining example of freedom?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2005-02-02 09:48pm

The Newkewlar Counter is now at 3.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2005-02-02 09:48pm

Nukular count is now at 3!

EDIT: DAmn!

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

felineki · Post by **felineki** » 2005-02-02 09:49pm

Iran is a supporter of terror. Iran must disarm. This sounds familiar....

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2005-02-02 09:49pm

America stands with you...unless your government can really hurt us then you can fucking starve.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2005-02-02 09:49pm

Did he just hold egypt up as a shining example of freedom?

No. He praised them first for Camp David and then said they should be more democratic.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2005-02-02 09:49pm

Stravo wrote:Did he just hold egypt up as a shining example of freedom?

Actually, I think he just told Mubarak to allow free elections.

Speaking of telling Arab nations what to do, what the hell does "Stop supporting terrorists and open the way to freedom" mean?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2005-02-02 09:50pm

"Iraq is a vital front in the War on Terror."

It sure is George! And guess who's responsible for that?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2005-02-02 09:50pm

RedImperator wrote:Speaking of telling Arab nations what to do, what the hell does "Stop supporting terrorists and open the way to freedom" mean?

... forcing our way of government on them?

Post by **fgalkin** » 2005-02-02 09:50pm

I think David Letterman said it best: Bush 1st Term: Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. 2nd term: come to think of it, maybe that's Iran.

Seriously, though, anyone else reminded of Bush's pre-war rhetoric?

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2005-02-02 09:51pm

Put your FUCKING finger down ass. You didn't dodge car bombs and razor wire to vote jackass. Whoever thought of that symbolic gesture should be beaten.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2005-02-02 09:51pm

Stravo wrote:Has anyone seen the Congress this divided during a state of the Union before? Even under Clinton I don't recall the Republs acting like this.

No. They were explicitly instructed not to, during the Clinton years.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2005-02-02 09:51pm

Durandal wrote:"Iraq is a vital front in the War on Terror."

It sure is George! And guess who's responsible for that?

Well, intentional or not, he got something right. Better fight them in one place, than all over the fucking Middle East.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2005-02-02 09:52pm

Meh, it is not a legacy, but we should feel pretty good about the Iraqi elections. So he can have his little wank over it.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2005-02-02 09:52pm

Seriously, though, anyone else reminded of Bush's pre-war rhetoric?

Yeah. But this time, he's actually right.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2005-02-02 09:54pm

Joe wrote:
Seriously, though, anyone else reminded of Bush's pre-war rhetoric?
Yeah. But this time, he's actually right.

Americans on the west, Americans in the east. Barganing positions, good.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2005-02-02 09:54pm

Americans on the west, Americans in the east. Barganing positions, good.

Not if they get nukes.

felineki · Post by **felineki** » 2005-02-02 09:55pm

Poor Safia doesn't look too happy despite Bush's gloating about how she was able to vote.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2005-02-02 09:56pm

Durandal wrote:
RedImperator wrote:Speaking of telling Arab nations what to do, what the hell does "Stop supporting terrorists and open the way to freedom" mean?
... forcing our way of government on them?

If we decided to roll over the border from Iraq, there'd be jack and shit they could do to stop us. Of course, there wasn't anything Iraq could do either, and look how that turned out.

There IS something appealing about the idea of marching into these places and stomping the assholes running it into the ground. I'd especially love to string Omar Hasan Ahmad al-Bashir (Sudan) and his cronies from the lampposts. The thing is, it's easy to fantasize about doing that when you don't have to think about the aftermath.

Nobody in this administration thinks about the aftermath, and if they do, it's pure fantasy.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2005-02-02 09:57pm

Joe wrote:
Americans on the west, Americans in the east. Barganing positions, good.
Not if they get nukes.

Kind of my point, barganing postitions to negotiate them not getting nukes, good. Anyone not willing to conceed that Bush would invade Iran if he wants? Even better with them being surounded. Not that I think its a good idea, just that it is there.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2005-02-02 10:00pm

That was actually nice. Not that anyone would not support the troops but..................................

Semper Fi.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2005-02-02 10:01pm

Wow. The Iraqi woman hugging the mother of the deceased soldier to a massive ovation...that was a pretty good moment. I actually don't have anything cynical to say.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2005-02-02 10:01pm

That was a nice tribute to the sergeant's parents.

Wonder why he never mentioned any of the letters he's gotten reading, "WHY THE FUCK DID YOU SEND MY CHILD TO DIE?"