The Official Episode III spoiler thread

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-02-03 06:54am

From the Episode III comic:

One

The opening space battle, Obi-Wan's Eta-2 Actis being pursued by a Trade Federation Vulture Fighter (the Episode I fighter). Anakin's fighter coming up on its six, destroying it.

Two

Obi-Wan leaping off his Boga Lizard, attacking General Greivous, whoose Wheel Bike can be seen behind him.

Three

In the Jedi Temple

Four

Obi-Wan, Anakin, Mace and Yoda appear to be exchanging glances as a unit of Clonetroopers, four Juggernauts, and four AT-RTs board an Acclamator in AOTC fashion.

Five

General Grievous gets off a Trade Federation shuttle and meets the Seperatist leaders we saw in AOTC, before going to have a conference with a holo-Darth Sidious

+http://img154.exs.cx/img154/8113/cc34fk4fi.jpg

Obi-Wan tells Padme something upsetting. He appears to subsequently board a Naboo ship- probably Padme's.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-03 06:59am

Vympel wrote:From the Episode III comic:

Two

I don't see a blaster anywhere on Obi-Wan ... please let it stay that way, please let it stay that way, please let it stay that way!

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-02-03 07:02am

Crown wrote:I don't see a blaster anywhere on Obi-Wan ... please let it stay that way, please let it stay that way, please let it stay that way!

Grievous is equipped with one, according to his toy and a Before the Helmet of "body-suit" Grievous. Judging from the great accuracy of previous spoilers, I'd assume that Obi-Wan grabs it and shoots him with it. Which I think is awesome

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-03 07:06am

Vympel wrote:
Crown wrote:I don't see a blaster anywhere on Obi-Wan ... please let it stay that way, please let it stay that way, please let it stay that way!
Grievous is equipped with one, according to his toy and a Before the Helmet of "body-suit" Grievous. Judging from the great accuracy of previous spoilers, I'd assume that Obi-Wan grabs it and shoots him with it. Which I think is awesome

Only if he uses TK to do it!

EDIT :: Awesome find by the way.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-03 12:17pm

Those walkers don´t look like AT-RTs to me. A little too big, and somewhat different in the cockpit area. Probably just an oversight by the artist.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2005-02-03 12:55pm

VT-16 wrote:Those walkers don´t look like AT-RTs to me. A little too big, and somewhat different in the cockpit area. Probably just an oversight by the artist.

I thought that ship looked a bit funny. Notice the placement of the engines and the boarding area.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2005-02-03 04:10pm

The latest Homing Beacon newsletter that the Official Site sends out, has revealed that Matthew Wood will provide the voice for general Grievous.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-03 05:59pm

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-02-03 06:10pm

The Homing Beacon Newsletter:

When General Grievous barks his orders, his minions scurry to carry out their tasks. His is a commanding presence, and his fearsome demeanor leaves no room for questions. His implacable metallic skeleton gives him the aspect of a droid, but hidden inside the armored carapace is an unwholesome, living being. To remind viewers of this inner Grievous, his words are occasionally punctuated with a hard, wet hacking cough -- suggesting that Grievous is literally rotten to the core.

Providing the voice of Grievous is Matthew Wood, whose history with Star Wars has been mostly behind-the-scenes. Though Wood is an actor, his contribution to the prequel trilogy has been primarily as Supervising Sound Editor. His access to the Episode III production process may have given him a head's up that casting was underway for the part, but the use of a pseudonym ensured that insider status didn't factor into the selection process.

On set, Duncan Young read Grievous' lines for the benefit of the actors. His voice was never intended to make it into the final film, and it was edited out of the mix early on along with much of the production audio. Ben Burtt and others supplied temporary voices on the track, all heavily modulated to be appropriate for a cyborg general.

"We put out a casting package of those modulated voices, looking for voice actors," says Wood. "Chris Scarabosio processed each one, and we would play these for George for him to evaluate. We went through a lot of different people, and on the last package we sent out, I put my own voice on there, though I didn't put my name on it."

With the pseudonym "Alan Smithee," Wood's reading of Grievous was played for Lucas without introduction, and he selected it. "It was great, but then I thought, 'should I tell him that it's me?'" recounts Wood. "When George found out, he said 'Great, let's record him tomorrow.'"

In a three-hour recording session, Wood laid down all of Grievous lines. "He's definitely an evil character. He's the leader of the droid army, but not a droid. He feels things; he feels things extremely, I would say. It's a lot of yelling, and shouting out orders, so it had a lot of drill sergeant to it."

While studying acting at American Conservatory Theater in San Francisco, Wood came across a website that offered samples of various accents to help actors hear and mimic patterns of speech from around the world. "You could hear the same line of dialogue read in different accents," he says. "I liked the sound of the Eastern European and Romanian accents. Also, I had just come back from Prague, so I had that in mind for Grievous."

In the finished film, Grievous' voice will undergo some sort of processing. Currently, it is lowered in pitch and has a ring modulation to it. That may change as the audio mix is still being put together. Wood offers the caveat that everything may still change, having witnessed all the prequels being made. "But I did also record Grievous for the Episode III videogame. I did 125 lines of dialogue for that."

Matthew Wood played Bib Fortuna, as well as a character in TPM.

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2005-02-03 07:21pm

JME2 wrote:A friend on another board has footage of the Dooku/Anakin rematch here.

I like it. How about THIS!

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2005-02-03 08:20pm

THEHOOLIGANJEDI wrote:
JME2 wrote:A friend on another board has footage of the Dooku/Anakin rematch here.
I like it. How about THIS!

Even better; I like how the camera pan is similiar to the final sweep of the end of the Luke/Vader rematch.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-04 07:26am

THEHOOLIGANJEDI wrote:
JME2 wrote:A friend on another board has footage of the Dooku/Anakin rematch here.
I like it. How about THIS!

*Right click, save as*

Obi-Wan seems to be moving like he's drunk ... still, looks good, albiet a bit slow.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-02-04 10:40am

Crown wrote:Obi-Wan seems to be moving like he's drunk ... still, looks good, albiet a bit slow.

They'll likely run it faster in the actual film.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-04 12:42pm

Very spoilerish pics:

http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/v ... php?t=2883

I retract my statement about improved protection of the AT-RT-driver. He looks more exposed than ever before. My personal evaluation of the craft as nothing more than a "machinegun with legs" still stands.

Cool bunch of pics, though.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-04 12:48pm

VT-16 wrote:Very spoilerish pics:

http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/v ... php?t=2883

I retract my statement about improved protection of the AT-RT-driver. He looks more exposed than ever before. My personal evaluation of the craft as nothing more than a "machinegun with legs" still stands.

Cool bunch of pics, though.

I seem to be saying this a lot in this thread but; niiiiiiiice.

Think there might be somekind of energy shield for the AT-RT to protect the driver? Otherwise we are fastly approaching Matrix level of stupidity here ...

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-04 12:52pm

Probably not. Still, it´s better with armor up front and on the driver + a helmet, than an exposed front of the cockpit.

And there´s the AT-PTs and AT-XTs in EU, so this can´t really be considered an "AT-ST-predecessor" when it has little in common with the AT-ST and it´s already established predecessors.

Just a heavy machinegun they attached to some legs and armor and sold for cheap.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-04 12:55pm

VT-16 wrote:Probably not. Still, it´s better with armor up front and on the driver + a helmet than exposed front of the cockpit.

And there´s the AT-PTs and AT-XTs in EU, so this can´t really be considered an "AT-ST-predecessor" when it has little in common with the AT-ST and it´s already established predecessors.

All very valid, still some kind of cover for the gunner should have been made. I mean it looks like a walking version of what the droids were using in TPM at this point.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-04 12:59pm

Crown wrote:All very valid, still some kind of cover for the gunner should have been made. I mean it looks like a walking version of what the droids were using in TPM at this point.

Yep, it is, I won´t hide it´s horrid lack of proper protection. Though I recall seeing in a description of it on MF.com that it was a cheap, massproduced design for defense. Can´t really see this thing moving far beyond friendly territory, completely exposed to ambushes.

There´s almost no protection at the back there, so it´s got to be used primarily as a troop support and defensive unit, then the driver won´t have to think about enemies coming from behind.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-04 01:05pm

Five gets you one that we'll probably see it on the front lines in the movie.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2005-02-04 01:11pm

VT-16 wrote:Very spoilerish pics:

http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/v ... php?t=2883

I retract my statement about improved protection of the AT-RT-driver. He looks more exposed than ever before. My personal evaluation of the craft as nothing more than a "machinegun with legs" still stands.

Cool bunch of pics, though.

Very nice. I took one look at Yoda/Obi-Wan walking through the Temple and the dead bodies and went

.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-04 01:12pm

Crown wrote:Five gets you one that we'll probably see it on the front lines in the movie.

Funny thing, that Wookie-army shot from the teaser originally had one AT-RT to the left of the screen (during animatics). It was later removed from the final shot, so you only see those three-legged walkers and the Juggernauts.

What this means, I´m not sure, but I think they realised it looked hella stupid being so exposed.

Nah, they´ll probably fuck it up anyway.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-04 01:23pm

I just realized, in the "temple death" pic, there are clonetroopers lying dead amongst the Jedi. Didn´t catch that at first.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-04 01:40pm

VT-16 wrote:I just realized, in the "temple death" pic, there are clonetroopers lying dead amongst the Jedi. Didn´t catch that at first.

*squints*

You're right! I didn't see it either, they seem to have scorch marks on them (although that could just be the rubber underneath), the second dude from the foreground looks like he had his arm chopped off!

Clone Sergeant · Post by **Clone Sergeant** » 2005-02-04 01:44pm

Ideally, the AT-RT should be used as the walker equivalent of a speeder bike. Something scouts use when they have to do recon in enemy areas screened by theater shields. It should be fairly fast or at least noticable faster than the AT-ST to avoid making the very exposed driver a huge ass target.

But I'm not an optimistic person, it will probably be seen in heavy frontline combat and will move as fast as a dewback in EpIV.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-04 02:25pm

Clone Sergeant wrote:Ideally, the AT-RT should be used as the walker equivalent of a speeder bike. Something scouts use when they have to do recon in enemy areas screened by theater shields. It should be fairly fast or at least noticable faster than the AT-ST to avoid making the very exposed driver a huge ass target.

But I'm not an optimistic person, it will probably be seen in heavy frontline combat and will move as fast as a dewback in EpIV.

True, I´m preparing for the worst. Though at least one variant of AT-ST was capable of speed, the first time we see an AT-ST on Hoth it´s moving quite fast across the screen.