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Ayatollah ahead of Allawi in early election results

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Shiite bloc takes lead in early Iraqi election results
Friday, February 4, 2005 Posted: 3:52 PM EST (2052 GMT)



BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Preliminary results from Iraq's election released Friday show that the predominantly Shiite Muslim south backed the party of Iraq's top Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, over the secular party of interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi.

Officials haven't tallied results yet from Iraq's Sunni and Kurdish areas, and the Independent Electoral Commission of Iraq cautioned the early data on how the Shiite region voted cannot be used to interpret the final election results because of the skewed demographics.

Complete election results are expected next week.

Voter turnout in Sunday's election for a 275-member National Assembly and 18 provincial councils remains unknown.

So far, election workers have counted 3.3 million votes, or 35 percent of all polling stations. The results are from 10 of Iraq's 18 provinces in the southern part of the country.

The al-Sistani-backed United Iraqi Alliance also won most of the absentee votes, The Associated Press reported, citing preliminary figures the International Organization for Migration released Friday. The organization supervised Iraqi expatriates' votes in 14 countries.

Abdel-Aziz al-Hakim, the Shiite coalition's leader, spent many years exiled in Iran, where he participated in a growing movement against Saddam Hussein. The alliance has several clerics vying for office, but its leaders said the group is not seeking to force Islamic law on Iraq.

Italian journalist abducted
As Iraqis wait for election results, violence continues to plague the country.

Abductors grabbed Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena, 54, from her car Friday in Baghdad, police said, and three U.S. soldiers died in separate incidents Thursday and Friday.

Men in a black Kia snatched Sgrena, who works for the Italian daily Manifesto newspaper, after she finished interviews at Nahrain University.

The newspaper is asking nongovernmental and humanitarian groups to help find and arrange Sgrena's release, editor Loris Campetti said.

The death toll for U.S. troops stands at 1,444 after a makeshift bomb killed a soldier Friday outside the north-central city of Tikrit, the military said.

Thursday incidents claimed two more troops, one in the northern Babil province, and another in northern Iraq south of Mosul, a military statement said.

A top Pentagon official told lawmakers Thursday that U.S. work in Iraq is not done after this week's elections, citing more needed training for Iraqi security forces.

"As impressive as that election was, Iraq still faces a difficult road ahead," Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz told the Senate Armed Services Committee. "This is not a time to sit on our hands and congratulate ourselves." (Full story)

In other violence, insurgents killed 12 Iraqi army recruits and critically wounded two others in an ambush Wednesday on a bus near the northern city of Kirkuk, an Iraqi army spokesman said.

The insurgents stopped the bus, made the recruits disembark and then shot them one by one in the village of Zab, Maj. Gen. Anwar Mohammed Amin said.

Amin said that most of the recruits were under 25 and that they were unarmed and headed for home. Zab is about 45 miles (70 kilometers) southwest of Kirkuk.

Insurgents also attacked a five-vehicle police convoy traveling to Baghdad on Thursday, killing one Iraqi police officer and injuring three others, officials said. The attackers used rocket-propelled grenades and small arms near the Abu Ghraib prison in western Baghdad, a police officer said.

Other developments

The U.S. military is holding three Frenchmen of Arab descent who were captured in November during the Falluja offensive, a Western official said. French newspaper Le Figaro reported the men were fighting alongside insurgents near the Iraqi city west of Baghdad, which was a base of operations for the insurgency.


Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told CNN's "Larry King Live" that he twice offered President Bush his resignation during the height of the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal, but the president refused to accept it. (Full story)

CNN's Jane Arraf, Arwa Damon, Stephanie Halasz, Octavia Nasr, Nic Robertson and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.
These are just early preliminary numbers, I don't think anyone is expecting firm results until a few weeks but wouldn't it be ironic if the Bush backed Allawi lost to these turbaned fundies and we just brought a nice healthy theocracy into the formally secular Iraq?

BTW is there a reason why US election results are clear within hours of poll closings yet it takes weeks for these elections to be called?
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Shiite bloc takes lead in early Iraqi election results
Friday, February 4, 2005 Posted: 3:52 PM EST (2052 GMT)



BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Preliminary results from Iraq's election released Friday show that the predominantly Shiite Muslim south backed the party of Iraq's top Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, over the secular party of interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi.

Officials haven't tallied results yet from Iraq's Sunni and Kurdish areas, and the Independent Electoral Commission of Iraq cautioned the early data on how the Shiite region voted cannot be used to interpret the final election results because of the skewed demographics.

Complete election results are expected next week.

Voter turnout in Sunday's election for a 275-member National Assembly and 18 provincial councils remains unknown.

So far, election workers have counted 3.3 million votes, or 35 percent of all polling stations. The results are from 10 of Iraq's 18 provinces in the southern part of the country.

The al-Sistani-backed United Iraqi Alliance also won most of the absentee votes, The Associated Press reported, citing preliminary figures the International Organization for Migration released Friday. The organization supervised Iraqi expatriates' votes in 14 countries.

Abdel-Aziz al-Hakim, the Shiite coalition's leader, spent many years exiled in Iran, where he participated in a growing movement against Saddam Hussein. The alliance has several clerics vying for office, but its leaders said the group is not seeking to force Islamic law on Iraq.

Italian journalist abducted
As Iraqis wait for election results, violence continues to plague the country.

Abductors grabbed Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena, 54, from her car Friday in Baghdad, police said, and three U.S. soldiers died in separate incidents Thursday and Friday.

Men in a black Kia snatched Sgrena, who works for the Italian daily Manifesto newspaper, after she finished interviews at Nahrain University.

The newspaper is asking nongovernmental and humanitarian groups to help find and arrange Sgrena's release, editor Loris Campetti said.

The death toll for U.S. troops stands at 1,444 after a makeshift bomb killed a soldier Friday outside the north-central city of Tikrit, the military said.

Thursday incidents claimed two more troops, one in the northern Babil province, and another in northern Iraq south of Mosul, a military statement said.

A top Pentagon official told lawmakers Thursday that U.S. work in Iraq is not done after this week's elections, citing more needed training for Iraqi security forces.

"As impressive as that election was, Iraq still faces a difficult road ahead," Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz told the Senate Armed Services Committee. "This is not a time to sit on our hands and congratulate ourselves." (Full story)

In other violence, insurgents killed 12 Iraqi army recruits and critically wounded two others in an ambush Wednesday on a bus near the northern city of Kirkuk, an Iraqi army spokesman said.

The insurgents stopped the bus, made the recruits disembark and then shot them one by one in the village of Zab, Maj. Gen. Anwar Mohammed Amin said.

Amin said that most of the recruits were under 25 and that they were unarmed and headed for home. Zab is about 45 miles (70 kilometers) southwest of Kirkuk.

Insurgents also attacked a five-vehicle police convoy traveling to Baghdad on Thursday, killing one Iraqi police officer and injuring three others, officials said. The attackers used rocket-propelled grenades and small arms near the Abu Ghraib prison in western Baghdad, a police officer said.

Other developments

The U.S. military is holding three Frenchmen of Arab descent who were captured in November during the Falluja offensive, a Western official said. French newspaper Le Figaro reported the men were fighting alongside insurgents near the Iraqi city west of Baghdad, which was a base of operations for the insurgency.


Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told CNN's "Larry King Live" that he twice offered President Bush his resignation during the height of the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal, but the president refused to accept it. (Full story)

CNN's Jane Arraf, Arwa Damon, Stephanie Halasz, Octavia Nasr, Nic Robertson and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.
These are just early preliminary numbers, I don't think anyone is expecting firm results until a few weeks but wouldn't it be ironic if the Bush backed Allawi lost to these turbaned fundies and we just brought a nice healthy theocracy into the formally secular Iraq?

BTW is there a reason why US election results are clear within hours of poll closings yet it takes weeks for these elections to be called?
Well, every story I saw on the balloting showed people filling out hand-written ballots the size of the Sunday New York Times .... plus there must take a little longer for regional officials to get the results to the central election bureau when you're dodging IED's and small-arms fire on the way.
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Our election results are up so fast because we have a voting system that's been up and running for years and can send the results electronically. Iraq's "voting" system until recently was set up to return a vote for President Hussein no matter what went on in the voting box. :P So they had to build a whole new election system from scratch; that's going to be less efficient at counting votes than the U.S. one which has been running for years.
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Preliminary results from Iraq's election released Friday show that the predominantly Shiite Muslim south backed the party of Iraq's top Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, over the secular party of interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi.

Officials haven't tallied results yet from Iraq's Sunni and Kurdish areas, and the Independent Electoral Commission of Iraq cautioned the early data on how the Shiite region voted cannot be used to interpret the final election results because of the skewed demographics.

Complete election results are expected next week.
I predict that the final results in Ohio'tar Province will give Allawi the win.
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Don't worry, Iraqi expatriates living in Florida will contribute 200 million votes for Allawi, thus assuring his victory.
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Actually, I heard that Iraqi expatriates in America voted 5% for Allawi and 40% for the Shiites.

Wouldn't it be incredibly ironic if we catapulted the natural allies of the Iranians into power in Iraq at the same time that we're trying to contain them?
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HemlockGrey wrote:Wouldn't it be incredibly ironic if we catapulted the natural allies of the Iranians into power in Iraq at the same time that we're trying to contain them?
That was the reason Paul Bremner wasn't too keen on the whole idea of elections in the first place.

The probable obejctive of the war was to put a pro-US government in place that could keep order, not an actual government by the people, for the people, as people's preferences are not always what the Superpowers might want them to be. :P
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Damn, why didn't we rig the frickin election? :P
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These are just early preliminary numbers, I don't think anyone is expecting firm results until a few weeks but wouldn't it be ironic if the Bush backed Allawi lost to these turbaned fundies and we just brought a nice healthy theocracy into the formally secular Iraq?

BTW is there a reason why US election results are clear within hours of poll closings yet it takes weeks for these elections to be called?
Because every single ballot used in the election is paper and the number of trained and background checked people and secure facilities in which to count them all is limited. The fact that there was a major shortage of election workers at all levels certainly wouldn't help with that.

In any case, the estimated time for the count is only ten days. Considering how damn long some elections both in 2000 and 2004 took to figure out in the US I hardly see room for complaining.
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Maybe if the Ayatollah wins, he'll want to kick the US out, and we can get our boys home in time for the NEXT Super Bowl. Though I'm not sure that's what I really want it sounds good in theory.
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