I have a problem.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-11-13 11:06am

I was chatting with a person on AIM about reality (hard-core Christian who doesn't beleive in reality), and I decided to use the anti-sophistry argument. In essence, I told her that if she wanted to demonstrate that realiy was subjective, just jump off a tall building. She shouldn't be harmed by it.

Now she says she's actually going to do it.

Any idead on how to convince her to stop?

ArthurDent · Post by **ArthurDent** » 2002-11-13 11:10am

Why stop her? She's a "fundie," right?

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2002-11-13 11:11am

Why would you want her to stop? I mean if she jumps off a building and dies, that's once less rabid religious fundie to deal with at the very least since it also keeps her from having any fundie kids.

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2002-11-13 11:13am

Ask her where she's gona jump, bring a camcoder.

Sell the movie on the net and earn loads of $$$

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-11-13 11:13am

I am now at a loss for words on this...

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2002-11-13 11:16am

Sit back and think for a moment. Is she serious? If she is your friend, does she have a history that would tell you that she could do this act? Or is she just getting a rise out of you?

If this is serious, call her loved ones, or even authorities to prevent her from hurting herself.

punkgothhippie · Post by **punkgothhippie** » 2002-11-13 11:19am

I'll buy the tape of that happening try and include an interview!!!

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-13 11:37am

Think hard... How much better off would the world be if they survived?

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-13 11:42am

Yogi wrote:I was chatting with a person on AIM about reality (hard-core Christian who doesn't beleive in reality), and I decided to use the anti-sophistry argument. In essence, I told her that if she wanted to demonstrate that realiy was subjective, just jump off a tall building. She shouldn't be harmed by it.

Now she says she's actually going to do it.

Any idead on how to convince her to stop?

Holy shit. If nothing else, that takes guts.

Larz · Post by **Larz** » 2002-11-13 12:18pm

... I'm at a loss of words... to prove non-reality she'd die... mindless zombies, the whole lot of them...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-13 12:27pm

Yogi wrote:I was chatting with a person on AIM about reality (hard-core Christian who doesn't beleive in reality), and I decided to use the anti-sophistry argument. In essence, I told her that if she wanted to demonstrate that realiy was subjective, just jump off a tall building. She shouldn't be harmed by it.

Now she says she's actually going to do it.

Any idead on how to convince her to stop?

Why? I she's tht dumb why bother.

And more than likely it's just a bullshit lie anyway.

Dirty Harry · Post by **Dirty Harry** » 2002-11-13 12:30pm

I think the loaded pistol in mouth demonstration of weather reality is subjective or not would be alot more spectacular.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-13 12:38pm

Three words: pay-per-view.

It would be worth seeing.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2002-11-13 12:39pm

I'd pay to see that, with a running commentary and everything, well, maybe a falling commentary.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-11-13 12:41pm

Or at the very least it could become one of those "And when fundies jump!!"

Seriously if the person is going to do it...you can try to stop her because you're a friend but honestly anyone that blind and dumb and willing to listen to such a asinine suggestion honestly...let them do it, I mean it is of their relative free will.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-11-13 01:38pm

It's not really a friend, but someone from Creationweb.org

I actually think there's a verse in the Bible which tells you not to do this. I may decide to use that next time she comes online.

Falkenhorst · Post by **Falkenhorst** » 2002-11-13 02:45pm

Dude, you could potentially make some money here.

Email STILE at stileproject about it, I bet he'd help you turn it into a moneymaking racket, EHHEEHHEHEHE

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-11-13 03:14pm

Reasoning with anyone that stupid is a lost cause. She'd likely claim you know she'll live and you don't want her to prove you wrong.

Got a digital video camera?

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-13 03:18pm

I am surprised at many of your for your comments. Frankly, it disgust me, because she is a human.

Personally, I can't really say how to convince her to stop. All I can say is Good Luck.

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-11-13 04:23pm

This person is a lost cause. Videotape the jump and then the next time you get in an argument with a similar idiot, show them what happened to the last person who tried to deny objective reality.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-13 04:27pm

Okay, what I am sick of is people telling Yogi to videotape it. That's just sick. Why the fuck would you want to videotape it? Think for a minute. Sure, it may be a lost cause, bu tno reason to videotape it....

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2002-11-13 04:57pm

Yogi wrote:It's not really a friend, but someone from Creationweb.org

Even more reason not to stop the dumb bitch from jumping.
*sets up an IMAX camera near building*

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-13 05:01pm

I know fundies are stupid, but some of you guys are just going too far. I agree with verilon. What you guys are suggesting makes you no better than sadistic criminals.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-13 05:05pm

Excuse me fokes but have you ever though that this is not the first idiot to go out in this way? Video Taping it and circulating it would do a woorld of good for some people.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-13 05:07pm

verilon wrote:Okay, what I am sick of is people telling Yogi to videotape it. That's just sick. Why the fuck would you want to videotape it? Think for a minute. Sure, it may be a lost cause, bu tno reason to videotape it....

Circulate it and show people how terrible suicide really is. Maybe they'll back off.

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