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Zed Snardbody · Post by **Zed Snardbody** » 2005-02-07 11:32am

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2005-02-07 11:40am

No suprise there. I wasn't even expecting him to serve another term as Vice President before the campaign.

Although it would be wierd if Cheney ended up running against Kerry in 2008. That would be the most lifeless election ever.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2005-02-07 11:52am

Cheney won't run. He's got the credentials but the lack of charisma (he's a jowly old geezer) and general ill reputation means he just won't run.

Jalinth · Post by **Jalinth** » 2005-02-07 02:11pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:No suprise there. I wasn't even expecting him to serve another term as Vice President before the campaign.

Although it would be wierd if Cheney ended up running against Kerry in 2008. That would be the most lifeless election ever.

I can't see Cheney wanting to deal with the politics that being President entails. He is one of the most powerful VPs ever and doesn't need to directly worry about the "political machinery" that Karl Rove seems to control via the Republican party. Also, he probably doesn't have the support base among the evangelicals to make a successful run. He is more a neo-con than a crusading Christian and neo-cons don't have a huge electoral population that I'm aware of.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2005-02-07 02:44pm

Im told jeb is the next planned runner. bush dynasty is fun.

Boyish-Tigerlilly · Post by **Boyish-Tigerlilly** » 2005-02-07 04:14pm

how competent and good is jeb though, as a gov. in Florida?

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2005-02-07 04:21pm

Not new. Cheney's said in the past that he wouldn't run, because of his bad ticker.

Mayabird · Post by **Mayabird** » 2005-02-07 05:44pm

Boyish-Tigerlilly wrote:how competent and good is jeb though, as a gov. in Florida?

I've heard that Jeb's a hell of a lot smarter than his presidential brother (but of course that's not saying much

). You'll have to ask the Floridians on the board about his competence, because they're the ones who know best.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2005-02-07 05:47pm

Jeb has announced his that he intends not to run, for whatever it's worth. Personally I don't think he will, with any luck we'll get NEW and EXCITING candidates like Bill Frist

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2005-02-07 05:51pm

No more people from the Bush crime family, please. If it has to be a neocon put Rice or someone equally sexy in there.

jcow79 · Post by **jcow79** » 2005-02-07 06:48pm

Crap, there goes my plan to sell "I like Dick!!" bumper stickers.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2005-02-07 08:54pm

Hamel wrote:No more people from the Bush crime family, please. If it has to be a neocon put Rice or someone equally sexy in there.

Rice/Powell 08?

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » 2005-02-07 09:02pm

Boyish-Tigerlilly wrote:how competent and good is jeb though, as a gov. in Florida?

What's that got to do with getting the Republican nomination?

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2005-02-08 01:44am

The Republicans have surely figured out by now that running governors is the only way to win the Presidency. Senatorial campaigns just die, period. They're never going to let Frist win the nomination, as he'd just be chewed to pieces over his voting record in the Senate. They also have realized that you need the influence of someone from a powerful state, who has been a good governor there, and ideally from a swing state (JEB Bush served effectively in that fashion even though he wasn't running, for Florida).

What that means is that with JEB having removed himself from the running, there is one highly likely candidate for the Presidency: Bob Taft. Condi will probably be his Veep.

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2005-02-08 03:39am

Any chance that the 2006 gubernatorial election could have an impact on Taft's appearance? Columbus mayor Michael Coleman (D) is quite popular in the capital, though I don't know that he's well known in the rest of the state. Then, of course you have Jerry Springer. If he wins (hell, if he runs, it's not quite for sure yet) by sheer name-recognition, then that could look bad for Ohio Republicans and Taft's probably hand-picked replacement. How much it would reflect on Taft is what I'm not sure about. Blackwell is the obvious choice by the Republicans, but I think the Dems have been pretty effective at making him look bad in the public eye. I mean, the response by the Right to charges of election mishandling, indeed, calling for his resignation, was essentially limited to calling the Dems a bunch of racists. OTOH, there were accusations by some Democrats that Blackwell's mishandling was intentionally targetted on poor people and minorities. So if it's Coleman vs. Blackwell, then I'm thinking that just about every black person in Ohio (12% of pop) is voting for Coleman.

I don't keep up on things as much as this probably looks, but I am an Ohio resident.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2005-02-08 04:47am

phongn wrote:
Hamel wrote:No more people from the Bush crime family, please. If it has to be a neocon put Rice or someone equally sexy in there.
Rice/Powell 08?

Powell has said many a time that he won't run for president. His wife doesn't want him to, apparently.

Ahnold in '08, provided they amend the constitution.

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