I have a problem.

[Andrew J.]

I know fundies are stupid, but some of you guys are just going too far. I agree with verilon. What you guys are suggesting makes you no better than sadistic criminals.

*blinks*

Whats wrong with being a sadistic criminal?

[haas mark]

Excuse me fokes but have you ever though that this is not the first idiot to go out in this way? Video Taping it and circulating it would do a woorld of good for some people.

Maybe so, but I am disagreeing with those that won't put that in the context of their posts....like its some sort of joke or game.

[haas mark]

I know fundies are stupid, but some of you guys are just going too far. I agree with verilon. What you guys are suggesting makes you no better than sadistic criminals.

*blinks*

Whats wrong with being a sadistic criminal?

What isn't?

[Shinova]

I know fundies are stupid, but some of you guys are just going too far. I agree with verilon. What you guys are suggesting makes you no better than sadistic criminals.

*blinks*

Whats wrong with being a sadistic criminal?

It's wrong if placed in context with what's accepted as morality for the general public of most developed countries.

If it's fine with you, okay.


*Leaves whichever room Andrew is occupying at the present moment*

[aerius]

I know fundies are stupid, but some of you guys are just going too far. I agree with verilon. What you guys are suggesting makes you no better than sadistic criminals.

So I want to watch a dumbass fundie kill herself for her retarded beliefs, big deal. None of us have forced her to jump, she'd the one that took her own life into her hands and made a choice to jump off a building to prove a point. If we were threatening or paying her to jump then yes, it would be wrong, but we didn't. If she has some friends who don't want to see her die they can talk her out of it, it ain't my problem and I'm not losing any sleep if some faceless fundie moron offs herself in an attempt to win an argument.

[Kuja]

I know fundies are stupid, but some of you guys are just going too far. I agree with verilon. What you guys are suggesting makes you no better than sadistic criminals.

I'm not sadistic. Sadistic would be knocking them off the building and saying it was a suicide. I AM a cold bastard, I'll freely admit it, but I do not go out to cause other people pain.

[Andrew J.]

I know fundies are stupid, but some of you guys are just going too far. I agree with verilon. What you guys are suggesting makes you no better than sadistic criminals.

*blinks*

Whats wrong with being a sadistic criminal?

It's wrong if placed in context with what's accepted as morality for the general public of most developed countries.

If it's fine with you, okay.


*Leaves whichever room Andrew is occupying at the present moment*

Ah, my strange sense of humor has frightened away my peers once again...eeeexcellent.

[Zaia]

So I want to watch a dumbass fundie kill herself for her retarded beliefs, big deal. None of us have forced her to jump, she'd the one that took her own life into her hands and made a choice to jump off a building to prove a point. If we were threatening or paying her to jump then yes, it would be wrong, but we didn't. If she has some friends who don't want to see her die they can talk her out of it, it ain't my problem and I'm not losing any sleep if some faceless fundie moron offs herself in an attempt to win an argument.

Maybe you're ok with that, but I'm not and I'll bet Yogi isn't either. How would you feel if you planted that thought in someone's head and they decided to go through with it? I'm not saying this chick will, but what if she does? Would you feel like you had murdered her? Assisted her suicide? Perhaps you wouldn't be held accountable in a court of law, but that's one hell of a moral dilemma to work out for yourself, with or without a jail sentence. Fundie or not, stupid or not, she's still a human being.

[Kuja]

Maybe you're ok with that, but I'm not and I'll bet Yogi isn't either. How would you feel if you planted that thought in someone's head and they decided to go through with it? I'm not saying this chick will, but what if she does? Would you feel like you had murdered her? Assisted her suicide? Perhaps you wouldn't be held accountable in a court of law, but that's one hell of a moral dilemma to work out for yourself, with or without a jail sentence. Fundie or not, stupid or not, she's still a human being.

I admit I would feel bad for all of a few seconds.

[GrandMasterTerwynn]

I was chatting with a person on AIM about reality (hard-core Christian who doesn't beleive in reality), and I decided to use the anti-sophistry argument. In essence, I told her that if she wanted to demonstrate that realiy was subjective, just jump off a tall building. She shouldn't be harmed by it.

Now she says she's actually going to do it.

Any idead on how to convince her to stop?

Ummmmm . . . . [kill all fundies] let her. [/kill all fundies] But, actually . . . well, it's a fucking rhetorical question. Anybody who would willingly jump off a tall building is either stupid, or insane, or suicidal. Reporting her to the authorities would be good.

[Zaia]

Maybe you're ok with that, but I'm not and I'll bet Yogi isn't either. How would you feel if you planted that thought in someone's head and they decided to go through with it? I'm not saying this chick will, but what if she does? Would you feel like you had murdered her? Assisted her suicide? Perhaps you wouldn't be held accountable in a court of law, but that's one hell of a moral dilemma to work out for yourself, with or without a jail sentence. Fundie or not, stupid or not, she's still a human being.

I admit I would feel bad for all of a few seconds.

Hey, that's a start....

[Mark S]

I find the lack of respect for human life on this thread somewhat...disturbing to say the least.

[haas mark]

I find the lack of respect for human life on this thread somewhat...disturbing to say the least.

As do another three of us.

[Zaia]

I find the lack of respect for human life on this thread somewhat...disturbing to say the least.

Completely understandable.

[The Dark]

I find the lack of respect for human life on this thread somewhat...disturbing to say the least.

True...I thought secular humanism regarded life as precious.

[Darth Wong]

I find the lack of respect for human life on this thread somewhat...disturbing to say the least.

I have the utmost respect for human life. I oppose any violent taking of life except that which is absolutely necessary. However, if some person out there does not respect his or her own life due to religious stupidity, I don't see any reason to waste time or effort worrying about them. Particularly when there are so many people in the world whose lives are taken from them against their will, on a daily basis.

[haas mark]

I find the lack of respect for human life on this thread somewhat...disturbing to say the least.

I have the utmost respect for human life. I oppose any violent taking of life except that which is absolutely necessary. However, if some person out there does not respect his or her own life due to religious stupidity, I don't see any reason to waste time or effort worrying about them. Particularly when there are so many people in the world whose lives are taken from them against their will, on a daily basis.

Personally, I would worry (separate standards of morals, here), but I wouldn't respect them or their decisions afterwards.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

I would seriously not really care if she jumped, just as I really don't care about anything that doesn't affect me personally.

But I wouldn't want to watch a recording of her jumping. I'd rather not see real people die, particularly something that violent.

[Darth Wong]

I would seriously not really care if she jumped, just as I really don't care about anything that doesn't affect me personally.

But I wouldn't want to watch a recording of her jumping. I'd rather not see real people die, particularly something that violent.

I wouldn't find it entertaining either. But based on the context, I have every confidence that she's just bullshitting, and all of that public pressure would increase her humiliation when she backs down, thus teaching her a valuable lesson about bullshitting.

[weemadando]

Fuck it. Let them jump.

Not only will it be amusing, but they'll go to hell, for suicide is a sin.

And Wong, FUCK PAY PER VIEW! Everyone regardless of monetary means should be able to watch this.

[haas mark]

Fuck it. Let them jump.

Not only will it be amusing, but they'll go to hell, for suicide is a sin.

But they won't know they're committing suicide (even though that deosn't really justify it).

And Wong, FUCK PAY PER VIEW! Everyone regardless of monetary means should be able to watch this.

*shudder*

[Kuja]

And Wong, FUCK PAY PER VIEW! Everyone regardless of monetary means should be able to watch this.

But we could give the money to charity!

[Mark S]

I find the lack of respect for human life on this thread somewhat...disturbing to say the least.

I have the utmost respect for human life. I oppose any violent taking of life except that which is absolutely necessary. However, if some person out there does not respect his or her own life due to religious stupidity, I don't see any reason to waste time or effort worrying about them. Particularly when there are so many people in the world whose lives are taken from them against their will, on a daily basis.

Not worrying about someone who is most likely bullshitting, and wanting to watch and RECORD that person turning into sidewalk sauce (like it would appear some here would) are two different things. If they're stupid enough to kill themself like a lemming, that's evolution but we don't need to cheer it on.