The Official Episode III spoiler thread

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2005-02-11 04:04pm

I love how C3PO gets owned by his own mouth...

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-11 04:05pm

Xenophobe3691 wrote:I love how C3PO gets owned by his own mouth...

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-11 04:18pm

Gustav32Vasa wrote:
Crown wrote:It kinda looks like a matt-painting to me, and oh yeah thanks for this little gem!
Yeah, that what I thought, perhaps they hasnt put in the specialeffects yet.

That background is fanmade, as is the soundeffects. (You´ll notice that the explosion in the background is frozen in time

)

Gustav32Vasa · Post by **Gustav32Vasa** » 2005-02-11 04:27pm

VT-16 wrote:
Gustav32Vasa wrote:
Crown wrote:It kinda looks like a matt-painting to me, and oh yeah thanks for this little gem!
Yeah, that what I thought, perhaps they hasnt put in the specialeffects yet.
That background is fanmade, as is the soundeffects. (You´ll notice that the explosion in the background is frozen in time )

The explosion was merely stopped by the Force.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2005-02-11 05:29pm

observer_20000 wrote:Finally got that clip up.

Go to http://jassonmasson.250free.com/ and click on the link between the upper and lower ads.

I'd suggest you hurry up, as I'm only using the host to store that file, and they might delete my account any time.

The archive is corrupted.

Dillon · Post by **Dillon** » 2005-02-11 05:37pm

Hmmm, it seems to be working for everyone else. Are you using the default windows zip program, or some other one like winzip?

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2005-02-11 06:35pm

observer_20000 wrote:Hmmm, it seems to be working for everyone else. Are you using the default windows zip program, or some other one like winzip?

Winrar.

EDIT: Never mind, it magically works now. It seemed to be DLing awfully fast before, maybe it was a problem with 250free, and the whole thing didn't DL. At any rate, the most interesting part in the clip is the music. It sounds similar to AotC, but more OTish. If John Williams can bridge the gap and still keep the soundtrack distinctive and fresh... well, then I'll be even more amazed by his work than I currently am. And the current amount is a lot.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-11 06:43pm

CoGro on the MF.com board says he was at a presentation and saw the trailer early, here´s several posts from him:

After the final drums rolled and the recognizeable breathing of Darth Vader faded away, I yelled out - PLAY IT AGAIN! though that didn't happen.

The trailer description posted before was accurate, but it wasn't finalized by then, because music runs throughout and obviously, effects have been finalized. General Grievous is seen, briefly, but his magnaguards are easily recognized in battle.

Space Battle shots....wow, some lower atmospheric battle, dogfighting like I've never seen before and capital ships pounding away at each other.

Mustafar looks unbelieveable in some of the shots, especially the wide shots in the latter part of the trailer with Obi-wan and Anakin dueling close to lava.

There's one shot near the end of the trailer of Obi-wan on Utapau fighting the Magnaguards with Grievous approaching with tons of droids that reminded me of the shot in AOTC in the arena with the jedi surrounded.

The dialogue in the movie sounds much less forced, and way more natural I would say...

the Padme crying shot is probably the first bit of real acting I've seen from Natalie this series. The tone of the trailer is definately dark, and the palpatine shots made me gasp a bit, from amazement. It's just really well done.

20th century fox

Lucasfilm Ltd

"The Dark Side of the Force is the pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural."

"Is it possible to learn this power?"

"Not from a Jedi."

Then it's shots of palps talking to anakin, then obi to anakin, then mace to anakin "We do not grant you the rank of master"

At one point there's a quick shot of starfighters dogfighting in the battle. and of a magna guard facing the camera on the invisible hand.

Soon after the droid shot you see Mace barging into Palpatine's quarters.

There's a senate shot that cuts to Palpatine announcing Order 66. which cuts right to Vader (anakin) marching with stormtroopers in the temple.

There's a shot from the clonetrooper loading dock with transports, followed by Kashyyyk shots. This part is action heavy, the camera movements are quick, and really stunning. At one point you see an explosion in the Senate chamber.

The final shots that build up to the titles are Obi-wan and Anakin fighting, "You are the chosen one!" then EPISODE III ROTS.....Vader and Palps, then end credits.

Additional stuff:

There's one amazing Sidious shot with his face twisted that looks terrific.

The space battle stuff really sticks with me more than anything just because I'm most excited for that right now. It's just gorgeous.

Mustafar is very, very red. The shots reallyl give you the impression of hell, and I guess that's why that comparison has been brought up a bunch my Lucas.

There's alot of freeze frame stuff to analyze once it hits the net, trust me.

Theres a few Kashyyyk fighting shots that I really couldn't concentrate on, cause you see Wookies piloting vehicles and it goes really quick. The water on Kashyyyk looks crazy, too.

I keep stressing, the space battle will be the best scene visually in the entire movie and probably the series. I was just wowed by every one of those shots.

Grievous is fighting Obi-wan in a quick shot, but it's not wide enough to see with who else.

Yes, Vader is suited in the final shot with Palpatine.

The last 30 or so seconds are very action heavy, but at the same time dramatic....It's not like AOTC or TPM that just shows all the action from every scene in the movie in one run, it's more like a buildup to the inevitable, which is the creation of vader and the fall of the republic.

The last shots are Anakin and Obi-wan dueling, so I guess that leaves an emotional as well as action punch.

It was confirmed yet again from these people that the trailer will be seen with Robots on March 11, but should appear on the internet and on TV that week as well.

Admiral Bravo · Post by **Admiral Bravo** » 2005-02-11 10:31pm

If the trailer is like how this guy says it will be kickass.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-12 05:27am

The above post seem to confirm an earlier report on the trailer:

A reliable source sent in this description of the next Star Wars Episode III - Revenge of the Sith trailer:

The trailer begins with the following exchange:

Palpatine: "The Dark Side of the Force is the pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural."

Anakin: "Is it possible to learn this power?"

Palpatine: "Not from a Jedi."

We are then introduced to the political maneuvering of Palpatine, Obi-Wan and Mace Windu. All of them actually want to use Anakin as a pawn in their game (Palpatine makes Anakin his "personal representative on the Jedi Council" while Obi-Wan wants him to "report on all the Chancellor's dealings"). The first minute or so is surprisingly heavy on dialogue and consists mostly of shots of various characters speaking to each other (intercut with short glimpses of evil droids, space battles etc.). We even see how Mace Windu and three other Jedi attempt to arrest Palpatine (he grabs the lightsaber and confronts them). When Mace Windu tells Anakin "You are on this council but we do not grant you the rank of Master", Anakin loses it and joins the Dark Side (Sidious: "Every single Jedi is now an enemy of the Republic"). At least that's how the trailer makes it look.

Then the more "visual" half starts with some very neat scenes like a low angle shot of Anakin marching in front of a Clone trooper army. We see Wookiees on some kind of war machine, the duel in the volcano field, gigantic 10-wheel military transports and actual destruction of the Senate chamber. Everything is very dramatic, several deaths are implied, Padme is seen crying loudly and music from the Emperor duel (ROTJ) is heard.

Overall, the first half of the trailer is surprisingly specific, making no sense whatsoever to people who don't know Star Wars well. The second half is very dark and dramatic, but with lots of action. Bad guys (apart from Sidious) only appear for a fraction of a second and have no lines. The final seconds consist of Obi-Wan shouting "You were the chosen one!", fighting Anakin while both dangle from some ropes/wires. After the closing titles, there is a bonus shot of Vader and Sidious standing side by side, accompanied by Vader's breathing.

This is a preliminary version with effects and sound not quite finalized. One part of the trailer is actually without music (either for dramatic effect or John Williams' new score will be inserted here?). The length is little under 2:30.

When further questioned about the "evil droid", our source confirmed that there wasn't a clear shot of General Grievous but there was one of the bodyguards:

There is some evil-looking humanoid droid with a cape around his head and torso, flanked by two classic battledroids (from Episode I). He seems to hold a lance in his hand. Later, Obi-Wan is seen swordfighting with a humanoid droid but he's only seen from back and moving quickly. (I'm 90% certain it IS Grievous, but it's extremely short and quick shot.) Anyway, both of these shots are VERY brief (about half second).

One of the shots depicts Obi-Wan being surrounded by dozens of droids. Some of them look different and wear capes, maybe one of them is Grievous. But it's very wide shot, the characters are small.

I´m guessing that last part corresponds with the "Obi-Wan fighting IG-100s and Grievous appears with more droids" from the above post. Might have a little "Burly Brawl" Jedi-Style in this movie.

It would make sense to parallell Anakin´s fight with multiple Jedi with Obi-Wan fighting multiple droids and Grievous, so that at the end everyone understands these are two badasses going up against each other.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-12 10:51am

VT-16 wrote:The above post seem to confirm an earlier report on the trailer:

I´m guessing that last part corresponds with the "Obi-Wan fighting IG-100s and Grievous appears with more droids" from the above post. Might have a little "Burly Brawl" Jedi-Style in this movie.

It would make sense to parallell Anakin´s fight with multiple Jedi with Obi-Wan fighting multiple droids and Grievous, so that at the end everyone understands these are two badasses going up against each other.

Okay, I'm officially excited now!

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2005-02-12 06:29pm

VT-16 wrote:Might have a little "Burly Brawl" Jedi-Style in this movie.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2005-02-12 06:39pm

That is why I love Something Awful...

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-13 05:53am

I was abit iffy on the dozens of droids vs. Obi-Wan, since he couldn´t defeat one bounty-hunter in AOTC, but then I realized he´s been through three years of non-stop warfare so he´s definitely more experienced at fighting multiple enemies.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-13 08:14am

VT-16 wrote:I was abit iffy on the dozens of droids vs. Obi-Wan, since he couldn´t defeat one bounty-hunter in AOTC, but then I realized he´s been through three years of non-stop warfare so he´s definitely more experienced at fighting multiple enemies.

Why? He took on dozens of droids in TPM.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-13 08:23am

Crown wrote:Why? He took on dozens of droids in TPM.

Hmm, yeah, but he didn´t have Grievous and IG-100 Magnaguards to deal with as well. Maybe it´s just the seeming pussification he got for AOTC. (It´s gonna be the odd one out, if he keeps kicking ass in TPM and ROTS

)

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-13 08:34am

VT-16 wrote:
Crown wrote:Why? He took on dozens of droids in TPM.
Hmm, yeah, but he didn´t have Grievous and IG-100 Magnaguards to deal with as well. Maybe it´s just the seeming pussification he got for AOTC. (It´s gonna be the odd one out, if he keeps kicking ass in TPM and ROTS )

Don't talk to me about pussification in AotC ... I'm a huge Obi-Wan fan, and I nearly threw my drink at the screen!

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-02-13 08:46am

Bah, I enjoyed watching Obi-Wan get pwn3d by Tyranus. It's too bad he didn't kill Jango Fett in the end, but I preferred that Windu do it (to establish his bad-ass credentials).

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-13 08:55am

Vympel wrote:Bah, I enjoyed watching Obi-Wan get pwn3d by Tyranus. It's too bad he didn't kill Jango Fett in the end, but I preferred that Windu do it (to establish his bad-ass credentials).

*jots down on 'To Do List' ...*

Send Hellenic re-education squad to Vympel's house AND Obi-Wan reappreciation squad.

There.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-13 10:48am

A new sfx article on the OS, liked the following quote:

For Guyett and his team, creating believable scenes of the duel on Mustafar, the construction of Darth Vader and the massive Wookiee battle on Kashyyyk would prove both challenging and rewarding. One of the scenes Guyett found himself most looking forward to creating involved sandy beaches and some irate Wookiees.

"I'm happy that George took the approach as a Saving Private Ryan with Wookiees," Guyett admits. "Having done the visual effects for Saving Private Ryan, that kind of 'down and dirty' approach to the battle really worked. The big treat for the fans will be the environment itself. What's more fun than having a massive battle on Kashyyyk? Forget the story for a second -- it's just a lot of fun to blow a bunch of stuff up."

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-13 10:57am

No fucking way!

Gustav32Vasa · Post by **Gustav32Vasa** » 2005-02-13 11:10am

VT-16 wrote:A new sfx article on the OS, liked the following quote:

For Guyett and his team, creating believable scenes of the duel on Mustafar, the construction of Darth Vader and the massive Wookiee battle on Kashyyyk would prove both challenging and rewarding. One of the scenes Guyett found himself most looking forward to creating involved sandy beaches and some irate Wookiees.

"I'm happy that George took the approach as a Saving Private Ryan with Wookiees," Guyett admits. "Having done the visual effects for Saving Private Ryan, that kind of 'down and dirty' approach to the battle really worked. The big treat for the fans will be the environment itself. What's more fun than having a massive battle on Kashyyyk? Forget the story for a second -- it's just a lot of fun to blow a bunch of stuff up."

Eh, correct me if I'm wrong but isnt Kashyyyk a forrest world, meaning that the Wookies lives high up and its dangerous on the ground?

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-02-13 11:17am

Gustav32Vasa wrote:Eh, correct me if I'm wrong but isnt Kashyyyk a forrest world, meaning that the Wookies lives high up and its dangerous on the ground?

it's extremly dangerousin the forrest floor we don't what it's on open ground (like the beach in ROTS)

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-13 04:18pm

Yes, the Wookiee tree-city is next to a lagune. One of the places where the ground is open and accessible.

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2005-02-13 06:20pm

Looking at my desktop (Kashyyyk), it appears that the planet is almost entirely forrested, or at least green all over. There are some browner areas, but mostly just green. There are, however, some minor seas. This would suggest smaller bodies of water, as well as beaches.

100% forrest would be a little weird, don't you think?